Doping in other sports?

[Jack (6 ch)]

Google 'South Africa rugby players steroids'.

Plenty of good reading out there including this gem:

http://ness64.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/sw-cairngorms-oct-11-012.jpg

 

[Briant_Gumble]

I'm curious about Jonah Lomu.

Seeing him back in the day he looked like the quintessential "bigger, faster, stronger" guy and now he is on dialysis with kidney failure.

Kidney failure is one of the no. 1 side effects of steroids, I have to think it is extremely likely that he was on steroids.

I have no idea if his kidney failure was brought about by a hereditary condition, but if it was linked to one, I would not been convinced without strong proof that he didn't pay a big price for doping.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I'm curious about Jonah Lomu.

Seeing him back in the day he looked like the quintessential "bigger, faster, stronger" guy and now he is on dialysis with kidney failure.

Kidney failure is one of the no. 1 side effects of dialysis, I have to think it is extremely likely that he was on steroids.

I have no idea if his kidney failure was brought about by a hereditary condition, but if it was linked to one, I would not been convinced without strong proof that he didn't pay a big price for doping.

Lomu could very well be the key trigger for Rugby's doping escalation. The way he ran over the England's defense needed to be stopped in the future at all cost.

Anyway, its still a bit sad to hear about Lomu's health problems.

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

Rugby is CLEAN!! you lot are idiots...stick to cycling!

 

[Benotti69]

Rugby is CLEAN!! you lot are idiots...stick to cycling!

Mutants................

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

yeah, when i saw that Pic today, I thought of you

The guy in the red, Sam Warburton from Wales, has a neck like a bull. Won't do them any good though....northern hemisphere rugby is 1 dimensional 10 man rubbish.
Southern Hemisphere sets the standard....by a long way

in case anyone was wondering or even cared??.

 

[mikeoneill]

http://www.letsrun.com/


the clean diry poll is back


they didn't release the results of the last one

 

[Briant_Gumble]

This anti doping expert predicts 60% of the athletes at London 2012 were on drugs.

http://www.dw.de/simon-all-sports-are-prone-to-doping/a-17391410

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Agent for Mo Farah, Galen Rupp claims that their training group (Nike Oregon Project) has only one current TUE: iron injections for anemia, and only 3 in the group's history. NOP is under some pressure to be more transparent after an impressive run of records, with skepticism coming from former Salazar rival Craig Virgin. Nothing about thyroid medication or asthma medication use though.

At the same time, the women's indoor 1500m record (formerly held by Russian Yelena Soboleva, who served a suspension for substituting urine during testing) fell with the fastest ever time (indoors or out) since 1997.

Male track stars clean/dirty poll is up on letsrun.com, if you want to vote. Female stars ended last week. No results have been published yet.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Does it say which athlete the TUE is for?

Iron is very helpful for EPO, but not necessarily just that.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Does it say which athlete the TUE is for?

Iron is very helpful for EPO, but not necessarily just that.

No. The three athletes who have scratched from races at the last minute may show who is anemic; Treniere Moser, Shannon Rowbury and Matt Centrowitz.


Also, unrelated, the doping probe into Kenya has gone bankrupt, and the government is refusing to hand over $200,000+ to keep it going.




And this was funny to me: JADCO does not have anyone in-house who can interpret the drug test lab report of Sherone Simpson. Not even a case of the foxes guarding the hen house. More like a stuffed animal toy...

KINGSTON, Jamaica — The failure of the Jamaica Anti-Doping Commission (JADCO) to decipher the long awaited lab report from HFL Sports Science lab in Kentucky, has further set back the doping case of a clearly frustrated Sherone Simpson.

The report is the one that Simpson and her lawyers say revealed that oxilofrine was found in the supplement Epiphany D1 consumed by the athlete.

JADCO attorney Lackston Robinson Tuesday told the panel that he could not proceed because he could not decipher the document.

"Having examined that lab documentation we have some concern about the report. That report is a highly technical document. We have persons in house who have limited training in the field of chemistry but they were not able to decipher the information in that document and we have therefore sought assistance in interpreting the document.

 

[mikeoneill]

lol ..g dibaba just smashed another world record


i watched it live amazing stuff

shes doing great stuff since she switched to mackloufis coach

 

[Briant_Gumble]

I found this interesting since so many people I know think PEDs should be legalised and steroids have minimal side effects.

http://fortworth.legalexaminer.com/...terone-gel-lawsuits-filed-over-heart-attacks/

A maker of testosterone gels are being sued because of the adverse health effects.

Depending on the way this plays out, I do believe if the judge decides the evidence is strong enough it could be a landmark case for the anti doping movement.

 

[Catwhoorg]

I was reading an medical piece a few days ago, not so much on the legal aspects, but happily disclosing the risks in Low T treatments.

Those who are getting low-T treatment, have very little follow-up and very few have T-level testing after the initial consult (to target the right range).

Excess T will happily double the risk of heart attacks in those patients. (Given a lot of them are sedentary middle age/older guys, thats a huge risk increase).

 

[Catwhoorg]

I did like today's comments by Cookson.

"There's sports that have a doping problem and are trying to do something about it. Then there are sports that have a doping problem and are in denial about it."


Spot on there. We all know the cesspit that cycling was, and still can be. (I think it is better than it was, I know others disagree.) Other sports are just as bad, and are just in denial.

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

Ironman Triathlon Racing!!

Ironman Racing!!

How clean(s) are these guys and gals

Swim 3.8km, Bike 180km, Run the Marathon!!.

The guys are going under 8 hours for these distances nowadays....not in Hawaii yet, but that is only a matter of time with the course record being around 8:03 and change!

Anyone know what the testing is like for Pro Ironman Athletes??

Discuss.

 

[blackcat]

Ironman Racing!!

How clean(s) are these guys and gals

Swim 3.8km, Bike 180km, Run the Marathon!!.

The guys are going under 8 hours for these distances nowadays....not in Hawaii yet, but that is only a matter of time with the course record being around 8:03 and change!

Anyone know what the testing is like for Pro Ironman Athletes??

Discuss.

Ironman is the race for the mid-age crisis

 

[blackcat]

Rugby is CLEAN!! you lot are idiots...stick to cycling!

Traps R Us

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Ironman Racing!!

How clean(s) are these guys and gals

Swim 3.8km, Bike 180km, Run the Marathon!!.

The guys are going under 8 hours for these distances nowadays....not in Hawaii yet, but that is only a matter of time with the course record being around 8:03 and change!

Anyone know what the testing is like for Pro Ironman Athletes??

Discuss.

I don't know but didn't Chrissie Wellington have a foreword to her book by Lance ..... Not the sort of company you want to keep if your clean.

 

[JackRabbitSlims]

I'll go out on a limb here and back it up with NO evidence.....but Chrissie Wellington is not / was not clean I mean, how can you race an IM with a huge smile on yah face the entire time..even during the swim?

 

[42x16ss]

Ironman Racing!!

How clean(s) are these guys and gals

Swim 3.8km, Bike 180km, Run the Marathon!!.

The guys are going under 8 hours for these distances nowadays....not in Hawaii yet, but that is only a matter of time with the course record being around 8:03 and change!

Anyone know what the testing is like for Pro Ironman Athletes??

Discuss.

When people ask about triathlon I point them to Chris McCormack. He dominated all forms of triathlon up until the end of 2010 like nobody before him. Sure, other guys have won more Kona's but at the end of 2010 his career win rate was over 70%. That is crazy and was across sprint, draft legal ITU Olympic distance, 1/2 and full IM. Still holds several Challenge/IM course records.

Beast of an athlete with an amazing career record. I think he's gone sub 8 hours more than any other athlete, also holds the record for IM distance wins. Don't know if there's any smoke apart from that though.

 

[nevada]

Traps R Us

Funny how Walsh doesn't ask questions about this sport.

 

[Amsterhammer]

I really shudder to even come and ask this, but does anyone know of any serious suspicions, or any evidence, to suggest that the current dominance of Dutch speed skaters has been achieved other than by 'normal' means?

 

[classicomano]

Sven Kramer's mysterious injury after the olympics comes to mind, left him out for a year. Other than that, the Dutch have the entire speed skating industry in their back pocket, im sure they could make things dissappear if they had to.

 

[the sceptic]

I really shudder to even come and ask this, but does anyone know of any serious suspicions, or any evidence, to suggest that the current dominance of Dutch speed skaters has been achieved other than by 'normal' means?

the dutch anti doping agency or whatever its called took a grand amount of 0 blood tests of speed skaters in 2012.