Doping in other sports?

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martinvickers said:
Why does he need notice at all - surely he just needs to be where he said he's be for the hour window?

Well it's about ensuring procedural fairness is afforded to every athlete I suppose which is the centre point of having a robust justice system.

I don't believe he did inform ASADA of his new address or else I couldn't really see this being a problem.

Also have to bear in mind that you would think that it is the responsibility of the athlete to inform ASADA of any changes to addresses and not ASADA to periodically check that the athlete's address hasn't changed.
 
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European cross country title won by Alemayehu Bezabeh after returning from two year suspension

Bezabeh should be thankful for the health vacation. Once you get those nasty drugs out of the system, your body can recover to achieve great things!

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Dave.
 

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More Strides than Rides said:
Blog from sprinter Lauryn Williams about supplaments and snake oil salesmen
http://lauryn-williams.com/the-good-the-bad-and-the-hgh/

"Anti-aging" is setting off memory alarm bells in my head. when she refers to the dear friend cost a career by an anti-aging snake oil salesman - is she possibly talking Tyson Gay?

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Edit - I'm now 98% certain it's Gay she means

"http://olympictalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/17/tyson-gay-doping-anti-aging-doctor-track-and-field/"

note in both the blog and the report on Gay - chiropractor

Very, very interesting if true. if this is the source of his positives, one feels sorry for Gay - but he was incredibly stupid, at best.

I wonder if Gay is helping USADA with it's inquiries, to get a one year ban?
 
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Donna Murray dead at 58

I only came across this recently but this ex-athlete died while sunbathing earlier this year in the garden having turned to bodybuilding after retirement from athletics. I'm off to the Canaries the day after tomorrow, for Christmas, so remember me all in your prayers ...

www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jun/12/donna-hartley
 
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More Strides than Rides said:
Blog from sprinter Lauryn Williams about supplaments and snake oil salesmen
http://lauryn-williams.com/the-good-the-bad-and-the-hgh/

martinvickers said:
"Anti-aging" is setting off memory alarm bells in my head....

lets not forget that the current drugs imbroglio in Australian AFL and NRL with ASADA has at its centre "sports scientist" Stephen Dank who runs an anti aging clinic, and ex-Essendon coach James Hird who Dank injected with numerous substances including but not limited to anti aging drugs
 

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lets not forget that the current drugs imbroglio in Australian AFL and NRL with ASADA has at its centre "sports scientist" Stephen Dank who runs an anti aging clinic, and ex-Essendon coach James Hird who Dank injected with numerous substances including but not limited to anti aging drugs

Seems like 'anti-aging' has become a new term of choice for quacks pushing rather old fashioned dope. At least Conti invented something!

I do wonder if the Lauryn Williams blog is hinting that Gay has simply retired. If there was truth to the original story, and Gay was willing to spill (which it seemed he was), he might, might, have been able to get away with a one year ban - i don't think he could realistically have go less. Not that it matters, just curious that none of the big busts seemed, VCB debacle aside, to have got to a hearing yet...
 
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http://www.fighthype.com/news/article15786.html

Brandon Rios tests positive after the Pacquiao fight. what an idiot, he was using VADA testing too.

Mayweather's reaction was interesting.

Mayweather, on the other hand, refused to say anything bad about Rios. “Keep you head up champ, stay focused,” he told Rios in a video by Ben Thompson of Fight Hype. “I’m not here to judge you. You’re only human. We all make mistakes. Keep your head up high. Just come back and bounce back like a true champion. I have nothing negative to say about anyone because no one is perfect.”

The undefeated American's stand is far from his opinion about the matter before. A couple of years ago, during the negotiations for a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight, he was adamant about having VADA testing throughout the training camp. Mayweather claimed that he will spear-head cleaning up the sport of performance enhancing-drug and other banned substances. The disagreement between the two camps on the drug testing issue ultimately led to the negotiations. Now Mayweather had nothing but good words to say to Rios perhaps because Pacquiao is on the other side of the fence now.

http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/man...brandon-rios--failed-drug-test-065929989.html

Which brings me nicely on to this two part article by Thomas Hauser. It doesn't paint Tygart and USADA in the best of light.

On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.

More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).

In late-May, Pacquiao’s attorneys heard the rumor. On June 4, 2012, they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights.

The documents were not produced. There was a delay in the proceedings while Floyd spent nine weeks in the Clark County Detention Center after pleading guilty to charges of domestic violence and harassment. Upon his release from jail on August 2nd, settlement talks heated up.

On September 25, 2012, a stipulation of settlement ending the defamation case was filed with the court. The parties agreed that the terms of settlement would be kept confidential. Prior to the agreement being signed, two sources with detailed knowledge of the proceedings told this writer that Mayweather’s initial monetary settlement offer was “substantially more” than Pacquiao’s attorneys had expected it would be and an agreement in principle was reached soon afterward.

USADA CEO Travis Tygart also declined to be interviewed for this article and instructed that questions be addressed to USADA’s media relations manager, Annie Skinner. On November 2nd, this writer sent a series of preliminary questions to Ms. Skinner. There was no response.

At the same time Golden Boy was attacking Margaret Goodman, it also took aim at Gabriel Montoya.

Montoya, as previously noted, has written a number of articles on the use of PEDs in boxing. On May 20, 2012, a source with extensive knowledge in the area of drug testing told him he believed Floyd Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for performance-enhancing drugs and that, in each instance, the test results had been covered up by Golden Boy and USADA.

Montoya did what a responsible journalist is supposed to do. He began to question people in boxing and the world of PED testing about the rumors. On May 23rd, he received a letter from Jeffrey Spitz (an attorney for Golden Boy).

In other words, USADA seems to have one set of rules for testing Olympic athletes and another set of rules when it tests fighters for Golden Boy.

“It looks to me like USADA and Golden Boy are making up the rules as they go along,” says Victor Conte. “One of the things that enables them to do it is that there’s no transparency to USADA’s testing for any of the fighters. What drugs are they testing for? What tests have been performed? What were the results? Why is Travis Tygart doing this?”

Meanwhile, one has to ask: How many positive test results similar to those for Erik Morales (and possibly Floyd Mayweather) are there that we don’t know about? How many other samples have been destroyed in the manner of the samples taken from Peter Quillin and Winky Wright? What would happen if federal investigators put key players in boxing’s ongoing PED drama under oath?

Victor Conte says flatly, “I think the relationship between USADA and Golden Boy needs to be investigated.”

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-one

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxing-news/the-ped-mess-part-two
 
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Interesting stuff gooner.

Not convinced that Victor Conte is the Santa Claus of sport and he has a clear association with VADA a rival of USADA but it doesn't mean what he's saying is true.

Mayweathers comments are suspicious.
 
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hard to put 100 percent trust in a guy like Conte, but I tend to believe him most of the time. Hasn't VADA caught a couple other fighters besides Rios? They use WADA labs right?

I'd love to see VADA expand to more than just the fighting sports.
 
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Mayweather's reaction was interesting.

Which brings me nicely on to this two part article by Thomas Hauser. It doesn't paint Tygart and USADA in the best of light.

The author of the article, Hauser, is either missing the point out of glorious ignorance, or is really trying hard to discredit NADOs.

It's the sports federation that finds these loopholes. It's the sports federations not processing the positives. NADOs have no choice but to perform as directed by the sports federation. It's how the rules are written. Which is why NADOs must be granted the authority to open cases on their own.

Hauser doesn't have a single clue how anti-doping is set up and is using that to sow conspiracies.
#1 **EACH** Olympic sport has its own set of anti-doping rules that meet WADA standards. That's part of the deal of becoming a WADA signatory for an Olympic sport. The rules vary by sport federation, and comply with WADA and national legal standards.

#2 A non-Olympic sport contract with USADA can use any non-olympic rules they like including not enforcing positives. They are directed to test by the contracting agency. No authority to enforce rules. end of story.
 
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Turkish Track and Field Positives

Turkish Track and Field federation got their medal winner off an AAF.

http://asia.eurosport.com/athletics...d-of-doping-violations_sto4056074/story.shtml

Let's see if the IAAF pretends this one away like a good Olympics sports federation does for their athletes.

Maybe not mentioned in this thread, but it sounds like Turkey's elite level doping caught up to them in 2013 with 30 positives. That's as bad as the large number of elite Russian positives for 2013.
 

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One huge difference, DW.

Most of the Russian positives were caught by Russia, RUSADA specifically.

A very large number of the Turkish positives were only caught outside Turkey.
 
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martinvickers said:
One huge difference, DW.

Most of the Russian positives were caught by Russia, RUSADA specifically.

A very large number of the Turkish positives were only caught outside Turkey.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
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Jamaican Heat

The controversy in Jamaica won't die down. IMHO, the observations are not isolated to Jamaica.

Here is how anti-doping really works:
My understanding is that they make sure they’re clean before they leave.”

Which, again, is facilitated by the national sports federation, not the anti-doping agency.


Track and field stars are, one observer points out, Jamaica’s ‘sacred cows’. It is those who have cast doubt on the anti-doping procedures on the island who have been condemned. Renee Anne Shirley, a former executive director of JADCO, has been described as ‘demented’ and a ‘traitor’ after she blew the whistle on the inadequacies of the body.


We only need to recall the controversy that Betsy Andreau experienced telling a different story.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/ot...-tests-turn-Jamaica-island-broken-dreams.html
 
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from @sportingintel:

Distribution per sport of global anti-doping blood tests in 2012:

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Any info on the quantity of athletes in each section? A tests/athlete ratio would be interesting.

That is very underwhelming, cycling leading the pack and all. Anti doping authorities are taking on the barbarian horde armed with a butter knife. Good luck fellas.