Doping in XC skiing

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neineinei said:
Somewhere (Aftenposten archive I think) I read that NSF had tested Sorkmo prior to the official testing, and then the hemoglobin level had been under the limit. But the measuring device (Hemocue I suppose) was said to have failed and given wrong numbers. At the time the skiers were using the altitude house in Trysil, and NSF seems to have been monitoring the hemoglobin values closely, probably to be as close to the limit as possible, but absolutely not over. When Sorkmo was pulled it was a minor scandal.

In the early days of these FIS pre race testings they were very generous. If the reading was too high you were told to go drink some water and come back in an hour for a new test, and if it still was too high you got yet another chance. It is quite possible that Sorkmo's reading of 16.9 was from a third test, after lots of water drinking.


Yes, as I understand it the third test showed 16.9, and you would think that Sorkmo and Arne Vilberg did everything in their power to get her below the limit before that, obviously without succeeding.

I do not like the fact that so much energy was put into "artificially" striving to get racers below the limit after FIS started implementing it in the late 1990s. And these early limits were extraordinarily liberal. I think someone in this forum has earlier pointed to a revealing news piece from Nordlys (2006): http://www.nordlys.no/sport/vinteridrett/torino2006/article1959455.ece

In it, the chief medic of Olympiatoppen (an institution tasked with furthering elite sports in Norway), Lars Engebretsen, is asked about a report that is used by coaches, doctors, and athletes in Norway giving them guidance on how to avoid getting over the limit on blood tests. Arne Vilberg (the doctor involved in the cases of Bjonviken and Sorkmo) wrote the chapter on blood values. I think the report is still there: http://www.olympiatoppen.no/fagomraader/trening/utholdenhet/fagartikler/hoydetrening/page370.html

Although I haven't read it yet, so it might be another one.

Anyway, athletes are advised to lie down before the test, and to ensure that the elastic band around their arm isn't there for more than 20 seconds. Furthermore, Engebretsen says that he believes this is ethically OK and that it is not about blood manipulation, and that it is a well-known thing in the world of sports; Norway is not the only country with such knowledge.

At the very least one should count this as (yet another) grey area into which Norway's Ski Federation (and other federations) aren't particularly afraid to jump.
 
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And just to emphasize this point, Sorkmo's 16.9 was, according to Vilberg, supposedly reached after 5 - five - nights in Trysil at the altitude house. Vilberg added that he felt a little bit ashamed and that using the altitude house was a mistake.

One can argue as much as one wants about the effects of altitude training; there are certainly some effects on blood values, and then these effects drop quite rapidly after one descends to normal altitude levels. Individual differences also apply. But a little bit over 1 united seems to be the absolute maximum for the most responsive athletes. But this happens after three weeks or more at altitude - not five days! And again: Sorkmo's "normal" blood level was 14.3, which is a long, long way off from 16.9

One last thing about this. VG published a news piece 18th of January 1999 about this (not on the web). I've posted it below. In it, Bengt Saltin repeated his stance as regards Norway's blood values, which he had recently questioned in a TV interview. Norway's team doctor, Vilberg, had said that many Norwegian skiers had naturally high blood values, including Bjonviken and Sorkmo (which isn't really the case, as we know from 2001), but also incvluding others. Saltin finds this very unlikely.

Vilberg goes on to state that "he wished someone could have followed him and what he does before the World Championships in Ramsau. If anyone is providing doping for Norway's athletes, it has to be me. Of course, I can guarantee you that this is not the case"

(Sorry for the long post)

VG 18.01.1999 Side 24

Forfatter: JOSTEIN OVERVIK - Emne: Langrenn Doping - Kategori: Sport
IN: Den svenske idrettsmedisineren Bengt Saltin hevdet i NRK Sportsrevyen i går at det er meget uvanlig at hele fire norske toppløpere i langrenn har naturlig høye blodverdier.
Saltin uttaler seg på feil grunnlag, mener landslagslege Arne Vilberg overfor VG.

Saltin er identisk med mannen som sist uke skapte storm i Danmark da han påsto at Bjarne Riis ikke kunne ha vunnet Tour de France i 1995 uten å være dopet.

Saltin regnes som Nordens fremste ekspert på emnet.

Jeg skulle ønske at en journalist hadde fulgt meg tett den siste måneden fram til Ramsau-VM. Hvis noen doper norske langrennsløpere, så må det være meg. Jeg kan selvsagt garantere at det ikke skjer, sier Vilberg.

FIS-grensene for det såkalte hemoglobinnivået i blodet er 18,5 for menn og 16,5 for kvinner.

Disse norske løperne har ifølge Arne Vilberg naturlig høyt nivå: Maj Helen Sorkmo, Eva Kjærstadmo, Krister Sørgård, Tore Bjonviken.

VG refererte Vilbergs uttalelser og tallmateriale for Bengt Saltin i går kveld. Men han fastholder uttalelsene han kom med i NRK Sportsrevyen.

Mistenkeliggjør du ikke norske langrennsløpere nå? Nei, dette er opplysninger som allerede er godt kjent i Norge.
 
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I have yet to dwell deep into the science of altitude training, but I will soon do. From what I've read thus far (with much help from this forum), effects on blood values are generally quite modest and temporary. Altitude houses, for their part, are now by many in Norway (and among scientists) seen as ineffective and not worth the hassle: http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/02/commentary/commentary-disputing-ferraris-altitude-training-claims-part-1_275249

Which places earlier arguments (e.g. about Sorkmo; and made specifically by former team doctor Arne Vilberg) in a very, very peculiar light. Unless altitude houses in the 1990s were of a different and far more effective sort, of course...

By the way, for those interested, here is a very easy-to-grasp review of research on altitude training: http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/02/commentary/commentary-disputing-ferraris-altitude-training-claims-part-1_275249

It was made as a response to a certain Michele Ferrari, who basically argued that Lance Armstrong could easily get the same benefits from altitude training as others would have gotten from EPO. This, of course, is just baloney. It seems that everyone who is caught for doping - and everyone whose blood values are demmed suspicious - plays the "I-have-trained-at-high-altitude" card. This is worrisome, to say the least.
 
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Just for the sake of honesty, I strongly believe that most Norwegian top skiers (and even tmost of the "mediocre" ones in international races) were using EPO in the 1990s and beyond. And I strongly believe that these same skiers were attempting to mask their EPO use when that became possible, or, at least, after FIS implemented screening tests and blood value limits in the late 1990s. In particular, the male skiers were systematically using EPO. As for the females, I surmise that doping was done less systematically, and that there were far more clean Norwegians than was the case for the males. This is just a hypothesis, of course, but differences between the sexes in this regard is not uncommon - we know that from Finland in certain periods.

But of course, I don't know, but I just think it is fair that clearly state my position or hypothesis on this matter.

As all know, Norway dominated skiing (for males, at least) in the 1990s (and beyond). What has struck me for a while, however, is how poorly we performed at the World Championships in Ramsau 1999. Alsgaard won gold and silver, Hjelmeseth and Dæhlie each one a bronze. Silver in the relay. Bente Martinsen (Skari) won a gold medal. That was all.

Being convinced about Norwegians not being clean at the time, I have wondered about this lack of success when it most counted in 1999. I didn't know before now, however, that nine out of our 15 skiers became really ill during Ramsau: http://www.vg.no/sport/langrenn/vil-granske-vm-syken/a/47228/
 
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welcome to the forum, kajsen. it is always good to get a critically-minded, research-based poster like yourself, particularly one from norway.

one way or another, the norwegian ski federation has been less than transparent about the 90s, certainly less transparent than their neighbour sweden. i dont feel like dwelling on the issue now - much i already said and wrote about - but pls continue your productive contributions in that subject...

regarding your pending immersion into the science (and myth) of altitude training...in addition to your own sources, you may find many excellent links and reviews in several threads in the clinic. unfortunately they are spread all over and you'll have to be agile with the forum search engine.

as a scientist, i did follow the subject studies for many years. several points seem worth stressing. the main is that the effects of altitude are indeed very limited (compared to epo/blood doping). the main reason is b/c the performance effect is based on a physiological feedback effect. another important point is that, in general, the studies on altitude training seems often contradictory. only true responders appear to benefit and not all athletes are true responders. thus, often touted altitude camps targeted to specific races for entire national teams, imo, are either mistaken or...something else. note, how the norwegian coaches have started blaming improper altitude training for the sochi debacle... i have personally arrived at the opinion that the statement 'every one will respond to a properly individualized program' problematic.

and lastly, in addition to the well known fact that altitude training (i include all simulation devices as well) was/is used as a cover up for doping increased in haemoglobin, there is another less known effect. specifically, when properly timed, a session in the tent may help to beat the classic epo doping test. etc etc..

i suggest you pace yourself to avoid the 'clinic fatigue';):)
 
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Thanks, python, I've read all your previous posts with great interest, and I've learned a lot. I'll pace myself, hehe, just needed to get a couple of new things off my chest. Thanks for the altitude explanation, by the way. I've read a couple of things now, and it seems that you are in the right. I've also read what USADA has stated about Armstrong and the altitude stuff, which meshes well with your views. I do not know what others are thinking, but there are some possibilities of comparative stuff here, meaning similarities between different sports, and lessons to be learned from each other. Well, basically, no endurance sport was clean among the winners and top people in the 90s (and, often, beyond the 90s), that much I have understood in the last few weeks.

I'll keep looking for a specific angle, though. Circumstantial evidence, while it completely convinces myself, isn't sufficient in this (dirty) business, but I think things will be sorted out in the end. I know that most of you are probably, or at least possibly, quite tired of this 90s discussionl. But there's something inside me that would hate to just leave it there and say that "what happens in the nineties, stay in the nineties". As others have consistently pointed out, Norway's heroes from XC skiing are at the top of our social (and economic, often) hierachy, and they will stay there forever. it just isn't right.

But I'll avoid "clinic fatigue", promise
 
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I'm of no use to this forum if I don't have anything new to add, so I'll try to stick with that principle. I just wanted to calculate some numbers (they don't say too much but we/I need them considering the larger picture). As you know, Norways Federation and Sweden's Fed. have relaesed some numbers. Norway's numbers were (rightly) criticized for being out-of-season; Sweden's numbers I'm less sure of. In addition, Norway has some numbers from 2001, which I draw upon now:

Average, Norway: Male minimum values 2001 (and before) (N=10): minimum values for N= 8 male skiers = 14.48

Average Norway: Female minimum values 2001 (and before) (N=8): 13.24

Average, Norway: Male: Maximum values 2001 (and before) (N=10): 16.67

Average, Norway: Female: Maximum values 2001 (and before) (N=8): 14.85

Average Sweden: Male: Minimum values (N= 9): 14.66

Average Sweden: Feamle: Minimum values (N=6): 13.40

Average Sweden: Male: Maximum values (N=9): 15.79

Average Sweden: Female: Maximum values: (N=6): 14.56

The minimum values between male Swedish and Norwegian skiers are OK, as they should be (though the N is fairly low; and, granted, a median value instead of the average might be preferred).

As for the women, differences aren't too large.

The male max values, on the other hand, raises a few questions.

Sweden: 15.79

Norway: 16.67


That is a substantial difference. I'm a trained social scientist, which means that I'm also trained in reading and applying statistics. I I am not at the moment, however, able to run the statistics on the likelihood of these numbers being likely to appear in a random sample of people. Anyway, there's a substantial difference here.

And I haven't as yet commented on the 1998 Hollmonekollen race (avg. Norwegian skiers 16.0 pre-race; 16.4 post-race). I will do that later, I suppose (others in this forum have done so alrwady). But, the thing is, this isn't as it should be
 
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A smal point: Do anyone have access to the starting lists for the World Cup race in Lahti 18-19 January 1997? The reason I ask is that in the Swedish documentary, Part 1, they show several glimpses of the lists. Pre-race blood values (which are generally sky-high) are visible, but names are anonymous except in cases where racers are identified and interviewed, for instance Jukka Hartonen (at 19:25 into the documentary)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE1nshSgETU

I think the lists are sorted by starting number. Thus, other racers' blood values could be identified if one knew the starting list.

Not a big deal, but every value counts...
 
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MrRoboto said:
It's not the starting list. It would of course make somewhat sense to test them in the same succession as the starting list, but I don't think most of the skiers were tested.

Thanks, it makes sense, I'll forget about that then. Quite interesting to see the still pictures of the hand-written numbers, though. About half of them would have been refused to start in our age.
 
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I know I lag behind most of you guys who have written about this for years and through 235 pages. But I spend half of my day wondering about these things now, to the detriment of my research. Sometimes one needs a bit of luck, thoug. Hamilton provided that for cycling. When it comes to Norway's XC skiing, the prime Hamiltonian candidate is the guy anonymously stating (in the Finnish 2012 documentary "When Heroes Lie") that if people knew the truth about Norway and XC skiing, there wouldn't be any heroes, only losers. The source was later confirmed to be valid, relevant, and rightly-quoted by Norway's state-owned national broadcasting company, NRK. The source would likely have had no (sinister) reason whatsoever to bring forth false information of this kind. There's no logical explanation as to why he would make that up. There is ample reason, though, for him to be reluctant to come forward with his story, and with his real name. Two people in recent Norwegian history have done similar things on highly sensitive matter, and both of them had basicallty to flee the country (Odd Lindberg and Gerhard Helskog). In all likelihood, the source in this instance has an important story to tell. But we do not know who this man (it's likely a man) is.

Apparaently, he has held a key position in Norway's XC team in the 1990s. http://www.namdalsavisa.no/sport/article6359815.ece

I do not at all think that the source is an athlete (no athlete in any sport comes clean without being pressured, history tells us). My two cents: It is (my gut feeling is 70% convincing, to myself, that is) that this is Arne Vilberg, the team doctor for only one season (I think), 1998-1999. He had to leave his post after Ramsau, likely because over half of our skiiers became sick during the World Championship. He was probably not too pleased about that. As I've stated in earlier posts, he was the respinsbile doctor involved in two rather egregious cases of sky-high blood values (Sorkmo and Bjonviken), for which nobody has ever received any plausible explanation. The skiers in question, though, are so non-prominent that they have virtually never been mentioned since.

Just my two-cents worth, just specualtion. But, in any case, that source in question probably holds the key to the truth.
 
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The 2001 Dagladet Bloodvalues article gives Maj Helen Sorkmos highest value as 16,7. But it was measuered higher in Dobbiaco/Toblach in December 1998; 16,9. This incident is even mentioned in the article with the value given as 16,7. So her highest number isn't really highest, it is the lowest after three tests.

The explanation given for the high haemoglobin value was that Sorkmo had high normal haemoglobin value and that she had been five days at the altitude house in Trysil prior to going to Toblach. According to NSF it was a mistake to let her stay at the altitude house before Toblach.

Sorkmo was officially the first skier to be denied start due to too high hemoglobin value in the pre race screening. In reality it was Mauela Di Centa in January 1997 in Lahti.
 
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neineinei said:
The 2001 Dagladet Bloodvalues article gives Maj Helen Sorkmos highest value as 16,7. But it was measuered higher in Dobbiaco/Toblach in December 1998; 16,9. This incident is even mentioned in the article with the value given as 16,7. So her highest number isn't really highest, it is the lowest after three tests.

The explanation given for the high haemoglobin value was that Sorkmo had high normal haemoglobin value and that she had been five days at the altitude house in Trysil prior to going to Toblach. According to NSF it was a mistake to let her stay at the altitude house before Toblach.

Sorkmo was officially the first skier to be denied start due to too high hemoglobin value in the pre race screening. In reality it was Mauela Di Centa in January 1997 in Lahti.


Yes, as you said, Sorkmo chose to report the lowest of the three values. There's a lot to that whole story - and the 1998-1999 seson, it seems. I have sifted through quite a few news pieces from that season (some are available electronically, some aren't). You rightly point to the two immediate explanations of Sorkmo's 16.9, namely high natural blood levels and five days at an altitude house. (Well, the first explanation was a sore throat, but that was soon retracted as rumours became too strong.)

Sorkmo's "natural" levels were 14.3, as was reported in 2001. That isn't particularly high. As regard the second explanation, team doctor Arne Vilberg later retracted it, claiming that these five days didn't have anything to do with the case. 16.9 was rather due to dehydration (secondary effect of altitide training). In another interview Vilberg claimed that "beating" the blood testing was, in general, quite easy, with the right injections and/or the removal of half a liter of blood. He said he could have easily done that with sorkmo as well. Inggard Lereim reacted strongly to Vilberg's comments, claiming that such methods would be senseless given that they would reduce the athlete's performance. Lereim later admitted that injections (of salty water) would have no detrmiental effect on athletes (though the removal of blood certainly has).

At the same race in Toblach, both Tina Bay and Frode Estil withdrew from their respective races after blood testing - reportedly due to sore throats (the same explanation as that originally given for Sorkmo). Thomas Alsgaard also withdrew (back problems), but reportedly he hadn't been to a blood test. Anyway, rumours of doping abounded at the site, with other nations pointing their finger at Sorkmo, Bay, Estil, and Alsgaard.

Arne Vilberg, it seems, messed up as regards having control of the athletes' blood values. For this he was heavily criticized. This also happened with Tore Bjonviken, who, the week before, measured 18.6 in an internal test before a WC race. The value was only disclosed after a few weeks had passed (I do not know who disclosed the value).

Vilberg was new to the job - he took over before that season. He followed Inge Andersen (new sporting director for Norway's XC skiers before 98-99), whom he had worked with previously. Before that season, Norway's medical team collectively handed in their resignations, for reasons we do not know. Six medical people resigned, and Vilberg took over. Vilberg followed Ola Rønsen (you know, the man who collected and published the blood values on behalf of NSF after the Swedish documentary). Rønsen had been in the job since 1994. After 1998 Rønsen acted as Bjørn Dæhlie's personal doctor (Dæhlie, it seems, had his own arrangements in that season, and was only partly a member of the national team). Rønsen and Vilberg - it clearly seems - were not the best of friends.

It seems that something went quite wrong under Vilberg's time as the head doctor. As I said, he was heavily criticized for the blood-values affairs. The criticism didn't really revolve around the question of why these values were so high - the criticism rather centered on Vilberg's apparent inability to (artificially) lower them in time for the blood testing.

Vilberg was also heavily criticized - and had to bear the chief responsibility - for Norway's poor results at the World Championships in Ramsau; the majority of racers became ill during Ramsau.

Vilberg quit his job in April 1999, even though his contract would only expire after Salt Lake 2002. The official reason for his resignation was that his wife had told him to quit (they had three kids).

I think it is quite obvious that Vilberg was forced out of the job, either directly or indirectly. Of all skiing people in Norway for the last 25 years (leaders, medics, top athletes), Vilberg was arguably the least successful one. He messed up things that Norway used to have complete control over, such as blood values. And he messed up Ramsau. And he was criticized by all and sundry. And he cannot be too pleased about - or proud of - his tenure. And he knows a lot of what was going on in terms of doping or a lack of doping. And he arguably knew what had gone on before he started in his job.

That was just an anecdote of a year that went terribly wrong for Norway on many accounts. And a year in which Norway were quite heavily suspected (by foreigners) of manipulating blood.
 
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Just an afterthought to the above: If you ask experts (outside of Norway), they will certainly say that, based on the cases in 1998-1999, it is overwhelmingly likely that Norwegian skiers (two, at least, but likely others as well) manipulated their blood in that season. Of course, "overwhelmingly likely" is not the same as absolute certainty, but it is as clear a picture as you'll get in an era in which no EPO test was in use.

Then the question becomes: Was blood manipulation something that Norway begun in 1998-1999? Well, that is really overwhelmingly unlikely. My take on all of this is that the "old" regime - all of whom had quit before that season - were simply much more proficient in their jobs. Blood manipulation did not start in Norwegian skiing in 1998-1999, but that season was, for Norway, marred by a relatively high level of incompetence. In this regard, competence is vital. Less skillful blood manipulators run a fairly high risk (e.g. Russians from time to time, and Norway under Vilberg and Inge Andersen). Highly skillful blood manipulators run a really, really low risk (e.g., Lance's team in cycling pre-Hamilton, and, I suspect, Norway's XC team before (and after) Vilberg.
 
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the degree of sophistication to manipulate blood, of course, was not a fixed skill. it was linked directly to the anti-(blood) doping environment prevalent in the sport at the time. simply put, the skills had to and did evolve according to the lowering haemoglobin limit - from the insane 18.5 and downward... that is, the early 90s techniques were different from the slightly more involved late 90's technique. on a technical level, this involved adjusting epo doses and frequency, selecting an appropriate plasma volume expander (saline, modified starches, glycerine...), developing individual responses for such de-hydrating factors like altitude stay, kidney affecting meds and supplements etc..

it must be noted that fis was slightly, but still ahead of the downright corrupt uci in applying and enforcing the controls. the biggest difference was fis' earlier adherence to a more stable manipulation marker like haemoglobin vs. haematocrit and, if memory serves me, fis' one year (?) earlier introduction of blood screens and profiling.

overall, though, beating these controls was very easy. if any one was flagged, it wound be likely due to negligence, sloppiness or such. a highly organized, professionally overseen national team ran much lower risk of getting busted. both norway and sweden certainly fit the bill. the russians much less so. they were busted more frequently, at least in part, due fracturing and disintegration of the formally centralized state and its doping machine...
 
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python said:
the degree of sophistication to manipulate blood, of course, was not a fixed skill. it was linked directly to the anti-(blood) doping environment prevalent in the sport at the time. simply put, the skills had to and did evolve according to the lowering haemoglobin limit - from the insane 18.5 and downward... that is, the early 90s techniques were different from the slightly more involved late 90's technique. on a technical level, this involved adjusting epo doses and frequency, selecting an appropriate plasma volume expander (saline, modified starches, glycerine...), developing individual responses for such de-hydrating factors like altitude stay, kidney affecting meds and supplements etc..

it must be noted that fis was slightly, but still ahead of the downright corrupt uci in applying and enforcing the controls. the biggest difference was fis' earlier adherence to a more stable manipulation marker like haemoglobin vs. haematocrit and, if memory serves me, fis' one year (?) earlier introduction of blood screens and profiling.

overall, though, beating these controls was very easy. if any one was flagged, it wound be likely due to negligence, sloppiness or such. a highly organized, professionally overseen national team ran much lower risk of getting busted. both norway and sweden certainly fit the bill. the russians much less so. they were busted more frequently, at least in part, due fracturing and disintegration of the formally centralized state and its doping machine...


Very interesting. And such an argument would mesh with the huge organizational changes in Norwegian XC skiing in 1998-1999. If one buys the argument that there were systematic or semi-systematic doping in Norway at the time, the medical staff would surely have to be involved. But the entire staff was changed prior to that season, which could help explain a number of mishaps in blood testing. And the season overall was a catastrophe for the male skiers; Ramsau was a fiasco (but likely due mostly to illness). In terms of the World Cup as well, Norway failed miserably. With one exception, that is, because Bjørn Dæhlie was the overall winner. But then again, he mostly did his own, indivdual things that season, and he kept Ola Rønsen, the previous chief team doctor, as his personal doctor.

As regards plasma volume expanders of various sorts, I guess your point is that the use of those (across nations) varied with the introduction of "health" screening starting in early 1997. One interesting question is still whether or not such devices were used prior to that year (again, across nations, I don't mean Norway specifically). If so, what was the logic behind that?

Of course, one logically sound reason for using plasma expanders early on was the fact that FIS did introduce blood tests from 1989. Smart people would then think long-term, acknowleding that sky-high blood values, if they came to light later, would do significant damage to the reputation of those skiers who were doped. But obviously, many didn't care. Smirnov's 19.8 from Thunder Bay is a case in point, as is Silvio Fauner's 19.2 from Lahti 1997. The latter seems kind of strange considering that the Italians could draw on top-level expertise in the form of Conconi. Smirnov's case is not too strange, though, because he couldn't possibly have an organization of any size or particular competence covering his back.

As for the rest of the skiers, I'm wondering. Of course, if one got hold of the blood values from the 1990s (FIS has still got several hundreds of them), analyzing them could be a little tricky if plasma expanders were used by some teams. But I'm not really into these technical-medical issues.

What I do know, of course, is that volume plasma epanders did become a huge issue again (after Lahtis 2001) in late 2002, when Norwegian TV Channel TV2 aired the documentary about possible Norwegian doping during the Olympics in Lillehammer. Long story short: the documentary (which TV2 had to remove from all archives soon after the airing) seemed to have focused on three things: (1) the meeting between Johann Olav Koss/Ådne Søndrål and Conconi/Moser; (2) the ordering of some 180 different medicines etc. by the Norwegians, including stuff that was banned (the program made a huge mistake, though, as they had apparently mixed two different list; the "correct" one included only two banned substances). (3) The "disappearance" of 72 liters of plasma expanders (Macrodex), enough to mask EPO use for about 100 athletes, it was reckoned.

The responsible medics at the time (including not least Inggard Lereim, who was chief of overall medical issues at Lillehammer) claimed that the Macrodex was ordered in case there were huge emergencies at Lillehammer, such as that of a big train crash or stadium collapse.

That claim was not necessarily implausible. If one is to claim otherwise, however, meaning that the Macrodex was used to cover traces of EPO use, that means that masking blood manipulation was an "established" practice even before FIS introduced these health screening.

To me, who has no real knowledge of this, of course, both these hypotheses do have some logical merit. Which makes it a little bit confusing. But fun at the same time. A lot of similar hypotheses involving XC skiing and doping also have at least equally plausible counter-hypotheses attached. Such as stone-grounded skis, or high-altitude training.

In any case, I'm just wondering about the timing of the introduction of EPO-masking devices. Smirnov didn't care, and likely didn't have anyone around him who cared. But the Norwegians might have cared more. Until Arne Vilberg became chief doctor, that is... (the last comment was in part a joke)
 
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Kajsen said:
One interesting question is still whether or not such devices were used prior to that year (again, across nations, I don't mean Norway specifically). If so, what was the logic behind that?

Of course, one logically sound reason for using plasma expanders early on was the fact that FIS did introduce blood tests from 1989...
it is not easy to answer, at least not with a high degree of confidence, if the situation is viewed scientifically and with some intellectual impartiality.

but you hinted at one such reason.

lets revisit the issue. fis conducted its PILOT testing for seven years, between 1989 and 1996. the purpose was - realizing that epo has just been marketed and that no epo test was in sight - to come up with a scientifically sound threshold for haemoglobin some years down the road.

obviously, the advanced dopers (all nations) and their facilitators have been using the drug since its appearance while knowing full well WHAT was the pilot program about. they knew they would not be sanctioned but they could (and they did) accumulate 'reputations' IF and WHEN the data leaked. leaks always happen and the people who knew it best were the same who doped athletes and who held the data - the unethical doctors. thus your guess is quite logical. but a believe the haemodilution THEN was sporadic and limited.

there was one glitch though. the pilot blood screening took place AFTER the races, when DE-hydrated skiers would tend to show elevated values.

injecting a unit of saline would take up to 20 minutes...how often was it used in the non-sanctioned environment ? I guess, not very often, but that it took place i have little doubt.

thus most haemodilition improvements as a masking technique could be safely assumed to refer to late 90s and on...
 
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Thanks for the input, python! I didn't know that all tests before '97 were done after races. The dehydration issue is continuously used as an explanation/defense of high single tests in this period, notably Dæhlies 17.5 from Thunder Bay. Again, I do not about how severe any such dehydration effects are. On the other hand, Rønsen et al.s studie, which has often been cited on these pages, based on the 50K in Holmenkollen 1998 showed the average value to rise rather than drop among Norwegian racers, from 16.4 before to 16.0 after the race. I haven't had time to read that study yet, but must soon do so.

The masking you write about would actually suggest that some earlier results are probably a bit distorted. Such as Stray-Gundersen et al's study based on Lahti 2001. According to them, half of all medal winners showed highly abnormal or abnormal values (on three markers). If we presume that masking was used by some of the others, these numbers should be a fair bit higher. But then again, retics levels (which were also measured) are not affected by masking techniques...? Unless small doses of EPO are used, if I understand this correctly. Too much technical-medical stuff for me to absorb right now...

But just for the sake of comparison: Sweden's state-owned TV channel SVT, as well as Norwegian newspaper VG, have detailed, leaked data on 5000 XC blood values (with the three markers) taken from 2001. We haven't heard much from either of these outlets since the Swedish documentary this spring. I hope and expect VG to publish some stuff eventually. They do have one sport journalist whom I suspect is eager to speak out (though if he dares, well, that is an entirely different question). From a Swedish forum, I picked up that the journalist in question, Anders K. Christiansen, had written on his Twitter account (it has later been removed) that out of some 2700 male samples, only 55 showed values above 17. That's 2.0 percent, or one out of 50 in each race on average.

You're right, python, skiers do adjust well...
 
The biggest surprise there is that Piksons is still planning to compete. Been a while since we've seen anything out of him. When I heard a Latvian had tested +ve my heart absolutely sank, because I am well and truly on the Andrejs Rastorgujevs bandwagon, so I'm thankful it was somebody else. Andrejs has said recently that the Latvian team is short of funding and may not be able to do the full season.

This may be a partial cause of an athlete getting busted (prize money + sponsorship to continue competing), but the effect of it certainly won't be to help the team encourage the additional funding...
 
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I was wondering why, after the second leg of the Swedish documentary last spring, things have been so quiet. After all, we know that the Swedes (through the TV channel SVT) and the Norwegian media (newspaper VG) have acces to around 5000 blood values from 2001 to 2007. VG has only reported two noticeable things during these 6-7 months: (1) Anders Aukland's rather incriminating hemoglobin and retics values; (2) the fact that Tore Ruud Hofstad at one point was also included on FIS's list of suspicious riders.

Wondering about the quietness, I asked the main "doping" man at VG if everything had been forgotten. I kind of liked his answer, I must say. Apparently, the quietness does not at all mean that he (and/or others) aren't working on this. And the bosses at VG have given him (and/or others) freedom to pursue the doping issue both in general and with regard to XC skiing in particular.

So I really do expect that the last thing on this matter hasn't yet been said by VG. Other media outlets in Norway, I really have to say, really seem to exhibit a "naaah-it-will-cause-us-too-much-trouble-if-we-ask-hard-questions-so-let's-not kind of attitude.

Hopeful about VG, though. But I expect that they feel that, if they are going to do it, they will have to get it absolutely right. History has shown that if the circumstantial evidence is not convincing enough, the case will be closed for the next ten years. Understandably. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that there's a lot of gold to be found in VG's blood values, and if they make a proper case that also include the circumstantial evidence that we do have from the 1990s, the biggest media case - by far, the biggest media case - in Norwegian history (in peace time) will sooner or later emerge.
 
Now seeing reports that Evi Sachenbacher-Stehle's appeal to CAS has been successful and her ban is cut from 2 years to 6 months, making her eligible to start this season.

Now, whether she will becomes another question. On the one hand, the German girls do not have any guarantor of results, they are mostly young and inexperienced - with Henkel's retirement their most experienced World Cup competitor is Miriam Gössner, who's only 24 herself and coming off a serious injury, and though she's only been a biathlete for a short period of time Evi's decade of experience could be helpful. And at least prior to the doping suspension she was popular and had a good public profile, important for attention paid to the sport as results fall after the golden generation's retirement.

On the other hand, Evi is 34; realistically she's past her best, and she's a full 7 years older than Franzi Hildebrand, the current eldest in the team. With Anna Weidel being promoted to the IBU Cup team, Evi is old enough to be her mother. And as a biathlete, she was never actually all that good - her Olympic showings were her best ever performances, with only a couple of other top 10s to point to. CAS did not exonerate her, only reduce her suspension, and that will hurt her reputation in the public eye, as well as with the Germans having undergone a restructuring in the off-season, a clean break from the past is probably necessary. And frankly, wouldn't you be expecting better results from Laura Dahlmeier (stupendously cool under pressure, though injury-prone) and Franziska Preuß (top 20 of the World Cup as a teenager and close to the podium a couple of times) than Evi could produce at this point anyway?

And if she goes the nation-switching route like Michael Rösch, it could take her a year anyway.

Could she go back to XC? Claudia Nystad got to come back in the relay this past year, and the XC team continues to haemorrhage young talents to biathlon (while biathlon has a number of teenage prospects for the Germans, the XC fans have been touting Victoria Carl as the big prospect in the junior levels... and she's now defecting to biathlon too), but the team is improving and does it really need her?
 
CAS ruled her degree of fault being "minimal" and satisfied that it was not a clear attempt to cheat competition, however she did still ingest a substance to banned limits.

You know, despite her having a previous issue at the 2006 Olympics and having put together her best ever results as a biathlete at the Games.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
The biggest surprise there is that Piksons is still planning to compete. ...

one of the articles in delfi.lv said he was retiring...the article also said he thinks the drug must have come from an american food supplement he used, but he was accepting his personal responsibility. many claimed the same and some have succeeded defending themselves and even winning suits against a supplement company (ex., swimmer Kicker Vencill)

overall, his attitude was low-key, one of regret and apology.

without any info on the concentration detected, it is difficult to ascertain if he was a victim. but given it was a cologne lab and that he had forgone the b-test, my hunch is - it was far from a border line concentration.

speaking of hunches - in another sport i follow much more closely - legkov's early season somewhat unusual behaivior is slightly raising my eye-brows...1st he hinted at leaving the reto group, then he denied the rumour to suddenly emerge in finland with one of the national sprinting groups :rolleyes::rolleyes: now that it is official he had broken with reto, he suddenly left finland for moscow on the morning he was to have an interview...everyone is scratching their heads :confused: lego is seldom seen so unpredictable.

i am not saying he's up to shenanigans. but running from a swiss coach under whom he had his highest accomplishments for a national couching group with less than perfect rep is curious...we'll see. i could be entirely wrong.