Dumoulin the same weight at Froome !? According to Google he's 1m86 and Froome is 1m85 so that seems rather impossible, unless he's got huge "bones" that make him look a tad "stocky"...this is not going to end well I'm afraid.
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No way is he the same weight as Froome. Ok, he doesn't look quite as stocky as in the equally suspicious 2015 Vuelta, but nonetheless he is bigger than Froome by a long way.
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Supposedly Chris Froome is slightly taller than Tom Dumoulin, as seen here.
As for how much they actually weigh, that's a closely guarded secret by team Sky. We may never know how much he really weighs.
therealthing said:
Supposedly Chris Froome is slightly taller than Tom Dumoulin, as seen here.
As for how much they actually weigh, that's a closely guarded secret by team Sky. We may never know how much he really weighs.
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Of course. If you're suggesting one can't blow up "doped" (assume you mean doped with EPO), there is plenty of evidence to show that one can. No matter what dope, there is always a breaking point for a rider and it's always going to vary based on myriad factors.
topt said:
Of course. If you're suggesting one can't blow up "doped" (assume you mean doped with EPO), there is plenty of evidence to show that one can. No matter what dope, there is always a breaking point for a rider and it's always going to vary based on myriad factors.
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Froome probably varies his weight in a GT. 63 for a MTF. 66-67 when there's a TT.
Same goes for Domoulin. No way is he 69 Kgs going up there today
As for looks, the Bone Structure and density play a vital role. Its possible that Froome has a heavier skeletal system than Major Tom
Irondan said:therealthing said:
Supposedly Chris Froome is slightly taller than Tom Dumoulin, as seen here.
As for how much they actually weigh, that's a closely guarded secret by team Sky. We may never know how much he really weighs.
Froome probably varies his weight in a GT. 63 for a MTF. 66-67 when there's a TT.
Same goes for Domoulin. No way is he 69 Kgs going up there today
As for looks, the Bone Structure and density play a vital role. Its possible that Froome has a heavier skeletal system than Major Tom
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Betting on him going through his annual mid-GT lurgi? All that time sequestered in Colombia, it wrecks the immune system...BigMac said:
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I think Dumoulin looks bigger because he has a different build. His shoulders are broader, or at least not as hunched over.
therealthing said:
I think Dumoulin looks bigger because he has a different build. His shoulders are broader, or at least not as hunched over.
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Yet he put himself through physiological tests and we got his weight...not very good at keeping secrets it seems...
Irondan said:therealthing said:
Supposedly Chris Froome is slightly taller than Tom Dumoulin, as seen here.
As for how much they actually weigh, that's a closely guarded secret by team Sky. We may never know how much he really weighs.
Yet he put himself through physiological tests and we got his weight...not very good at keeping secrets it seems...
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That wasn't his GT weight.
rick james said:Irondan said:therealthing said:
Supposedly Chris Froome is slightly taller than Tom Dumoulin, as seen here.
As for how much they actually weigh, that's a closely guarded secret by team Sky. We may never know how much he really weighs.
Yet he put himself through physiological tests and we got his weight...not very good at keeping secrets it seems...
That wasn't his GT weight.
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The broadest shoulders of the peloton are Kruijswijk's and he still looks a lot skinnier than muscle man Tomfromthemill
red_flanders said:
The broadest shoulders of the peloton are Kruijswijk's and he still looks a lot skinnier than muscle man Tomfromthemill
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2015 Tour de France weight: 67kg
2007 test weight: 75.6kg
2015 VO2 max: 84.6
VO2 max correlating to 2015 Tour weight: 88.2
2007 VO2 max: 80.2
2015 peak power: 525 watts
2015 threshold (20-40 minutes): 419 watts
2015 watts-per-kilogram: 5.98
2015 Tour watts-per-kilogram: 6.25w/kg
2007 peak power: 540 watts
2007 threshold (20-40 minutes): 420 watts
2015 test weight: 69.9kgValv.Piti said:
2015 Tour de France weight: 67kg
2007 test weight: 75.6kg
2015 VO2 max: 84.6
VO2 max correlating to 2015 Tour weight: 88.2
2007 VO2 max: 80.2
2015 peak power: 525 watts
2015 threshold (20-40 minutes): 419 watts
2015 watts-per-kilogram: 5.98
2015 Tour watts-per-kilogram: 6.25w/kg
2007 peak power: 540 watts
2007 threshold (20-40 minutes): 420 watts
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bone density is really low, skeleton weights around 3 kg
silvergrenade said:Irondan said:therealthing said:
Supposedly Chris Froome is slightly taller than Tom Dumoulin, as seen here.
As for how much they actually weigh, that's a closely guarded secret by team Sky. We may never know how much he really weighs.
Froome probably varies his weight in a GT. 63 for a MTF. 66-67 when there's a TT.
Same goes for Domoulin. No way is he 69 Kgs going up there today
As for looks, the Bone Structure and density play a vital role. Its possible that Froome has a heavier skeletal system than Major Tom
bone density is really low, skeleton weights around 3 kg
Race form froome is 65kgs at best. Likely less.
Down the line someone made the relevant point that a constant pace effort is ideal as a pacing strategy. Agreed, with the addition that in the end one can go a couple minutes deep into the red. For instance 10k running wrs have followed this pattern quite strictly - but, curiously, primarily since the 1990s on. Ross Tucker had an excellent post about this a forthnight or so ago. So one might want to give some thought to what this point about even pacing actually implies in pro sport context. It is not impossible to argue that epo made it a reality there. No answer here. But clearly the strategy works IF the athlete has the oomph.
One can also argue with good reason that today dumu followed this strategy more than quintana did. Accelerations and fluctuations in pace come with a physical cost, ie induce more fatigue than an even paced effort, even if two hypothetical riders clock in with identical times. So in this sense, advantage dumu.
But does the even pacedness lend credibility to cleans?
Not in my book. Premises and circumstances matter. I assume quintana is a huge talent on an excellent program and one of the best climbers in a decade or two. Ditto about dumoulins talent. Now, he beat quintana on his turf.
As Homer Simpson demanded from his brain, "explain how".
Down the line someone made the relevant point that a constant pace effort is ideal as a pacing strategy. Agreed, with the addition that in the end one can go a couple minutes deep into the red. For instance 10k running wrs have followed this pattern quite strictly - but, curiously, primarily since the 1990s on. Ross Tucker had an excellent post about this a forthnight or so ago. So one might want to give some thought to what this point about even pacing actually implies in pro sport context. It is not impossible to argue that epo made it a reality there. No answer here. But clearly the strategy works IF the athlete has the oomph.
One can also argue with good reason that today dumu followed this strategy more than quintana did. Accelerations and fluctuations in pace come with a physical cost, ie induce more fatigue than an even paced effort, even if two hypothetical riders clock in with identical times. So in this sense, advantage dumu.
But does the even pacedness lend credibility to cleans?
Not in my book. Premises and circumstances matter. I assume quintana is a huge talent on an excellent program and one of the best climbers in a decade or two. Ditto about dumoulins talent. Now, he beat quintana on his turf.
As Homer Simpson demanded from his brain, "explain how".
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So, for a 100 kg guy, the skeleton will be around 15kg
A normal google search will tell you that skeleton weighs around 15% of the total mass of the body.Guybrush said:silvergrenade said:Irondan said:therealthing said:
Supposedly Chris Froome is slightly taller than Tom Dumoulin, as seen here.
As for how much they actually weigh, that's a closely guarded secret by team Sky. We may never know how much he really weighs.
Froome probably varies his weight in a GT. 63 for a MTF. 66-67 when there's a TT.
Same goes for Domoulin. No way is he 69 Kgs going up there today
As for looks, the Bone Structure and density play a vital role. Its possible that Froome has a heavier skeletal system than Major Tom
bone density is really low, skeleton weights around 3 kg
So, for a 100 kg guy, the skeleton will be around 15kg
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Used Cortisone to reduce weight, trained extremely hard(better than his competition) with micro dosing EPO, saved some Blood Bags and put his huge engine to use.
meat puppet said:
Used Cortisone to reduce weight, trained extremely hard(better than his competition) with micro dosing EPO, saved some Blood Bags and put his huge engine to use.
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He is coming close to Pantani's time. That would be a concern. Let's wait for the third week.
webvan said:
He is coming close to Pantani's time. That would be a concern. Let's wait for the third week.
Tom D. opened some eyes, today. Very Indurainesque. Still, I think he's nowhere near Froome in terms of the ridiculousness of his transformation/progression. You could say that at age 26, both riders reached a comparable level, but compare the two riders at 24 and there is a vast difference.
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