(Dutch Beer Race) Amstel Gold Race 2021, 216.7k. Sunday.

[sir fly]

Vos is reliability.
Congrats.

Shame for Niewiadoma. Maybe if Longo Borghini hadn't attacked they could've stayed ahead.
Difficult to convince a rider with already good results (in the season) to cooperate.

A nice insight in the nature of the circuit.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

My hypothesis is that since these are two of the women who contest the 'worst sprinter in the péloton' title (Kasia has improved, but Elisa resolutely remains the kind of rider who can only win solo), they were so worried about proving themselves worse by losing to the other that they would rather come nowhere in the bunch and not suffer the ignominy.

Either that or she took Domenico Pozzovivo's advanced course in how to finish 7th in a 3 man sprint from the Cycling Classes With The Pros thread.

She still managed to beat Kasia, so it might have been a mistake not to ride to the line with her.

 

[Wvv]

The last climb on the Cauberg is further away from the finish line in the men's race, am I right?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

She still managed to beat Kasia, so it might have been a mistake not to ride to the line with her.

I'm not sure Elisa's ever won a finish where she didn't come to the line alone unless it was either a proper uphill, or a pre-arranged deal. She's like Pooley in that regard.

 

[SafeBet]

A nice insight in the nature of the circuit.

I don't wanna sound too negative but after watching the women race I'm not sure this is hard enough to have much selection.

The last climb on the Cauberg is further away from the finish line in the men's race, am I right?

Yes.

 

[Andy262]

Danish commentators comparing the situation with Niewiadoma and Longo Borghini with that of Alaphilippe and Fuglsang from two years ago.
A shame for my chances in the predictin game...

Worse than that. They'd only put all the effort in to drop Vos a km earlier..

She still managed to beat Kasia, so it might have been a mistake not to ride to the line with her.

Yep, better just to roll the dice in that situation, surely.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I don't wanna sound too negative but after watching the women race I'm not sure this is hard enough to have much selection.

Yes.

It's basically the 2012 Worlds course but with Geulhemmerweg added, and then a cut through to make Bemelerberg the last climb rather than an uphill sprint on the Cauberg.

Which might be good for it, because the Bemelerberg is absolutely garbage. No ramps and wide roads, just about the easiest climb in the Limburg region from a racing point of view, so if anybody wants to make an earlier move count and not sprint from a reduced group, they can't just wait til the Cauberg and would have to be more like Grace Brown was to make it work.

 

[F_Cance]

ELB messed up before the Cauberg. She made her teammates work but was so far behind and had to overtake a lot of riders.
I think if she was on AVV's wheel when the Cauberg started she would've dropped them all.

Definitely. She came from the last 3rd of the group and was the only rider to catch Niewiadoma. Really likely that she would have dropped everyone with a big enough gap to take it.

 

[Velolover2]

After watching the last bit of the women's race, I think Van Aert has many paths to victory.

 

[Red Rick]

Thoughts on the difficulty of the route?

Seems far less selective than Vlaanderen.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I'm not sure Elisa's ever won a finish where she didn't come to the line alone unless it was either a proper uphill, or a pre-arranged deal. She's like Pooley in that regard.

Sure, she wouldn't win against many riders, but her sprint in RvV wasn't too bad. I'm not sure why she decided to open the sprint, but she obviously knew she wouldn't finish first no matter what she did at that point.

Vos is having a pretty good season so far with first wins in both GW and now AGR.

 

[Bolder]

This chase is so disorganized that Brown could TT away...looks like SD is starting to do some .Worx.

 

[RedheadDane]

This chase is so disorganized that Brown could TT away...looks like SD is starting to do some .Worx.

You... know the race has already finished, right?

 

[Bolder]

Thoughts on the difficulty of the route?

Seems far less selective than Vlaanderen.

Watching the women it doesn't look TOO hard but it depends, on always, as how it's raced. But the weather won't be a factor -- in fact, should be perfect.

 

[Bolder]

You... know the race has already finished, right?

no, actually...darn Eurosport player fooling me! I'll log out of the thread

 

[RedheadDane]

no, actually...darn Eurosport player fooling me! I'll log out of the thread

Lagging like crazy?

 

[yaco]

Brown's attack was doomed to failure because there were too many domestics left in the peleton - Teutenberg is such a negative DS - Refused to allow Trek to bring back AVV and Niewiadonna in Flanders when they had two riders in the chasing peleton.

 

[Velolover2]

Does Sénéchal have a free role? He is not a bad bet in a reduced sprint.

 

[Bolder]

Lagging like crazy?

No, I had just stepped away to do some other things and the feed paused, got distracted...anyway, fun finish.

Longo Borghini and Niewiadona managed to find the worst outcome for each of them...I thought Kasia could have ridden L-B off the wheel or vice versa in the last 1.5 km..

 

[BlueRoads]

It's curious how many climbers are in this race now that we have established that it's more a course for a hill-resistent sprinter. I suppose it's mostly because of the more general seasons schedules and riders being in for a general Ardennes' week, but I get less and less why Cosnefroy isn't here.

I'm upgrading van Avermaet and Aranburu in my rating.

 

[sir fly]

After the women's race, my impression is that the circuit lifts racing speed, but kind of conserves the finale.
Guys are stronger, though... teams are stronger.

 

[Orbit501]

10 rider break up the road.
Of course, Bernard is there, but Theuns is there too, which I find interesting. Nice move by Trek.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Still two or three hours left, before i will have my beer.

 

[Red Rick]

Lol. Apparently Rabofail/Jumbo haven't gotten a top 10 in AGR since 2014.

 

[Red Rick]

A rare Dumoulin sighting