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Interview with SBS

In 2008 , everyone was expecting me to win and I got second. So everyone was quite disappointed, personally having gotten through that crash, finishing and gotten 2nd in Paris, I was quite happy with that result. it’s not an easy race to win. the crash significantly sapped my power, but it puts your body into a state of trauma with internal bruising and gravel rash

Q. If you didn’t have that crash, you were the best rider in the race would you agree?
Yes, to bridge back to carlos sastre on alpe d huez and not to lose as much time and to be better for the time trial to take back time that I might of lost. It was certainly within my capability (to win) if I had been healthy. it’s still my burining ambition to go 1 better at the tour starting at the end of November.

Q Your thoughts on the tour 2010 route?
Climbers tour. it definetly suits contador more than last year,

Q. Pleased not to see a ttt in the race
Um yes!

I always say what needs to be done but if people listen, that’s another thing. Saying things are going to happen and actually doing them is another thing.

Q. So you’ve started to plan for 2010, does that include the Giro?
Were still in the planning stages, but it’s going to be an interesting year for me personally and for people who want to follow the rainbow jersey.

Q. What about the ardenne classics?
Were still in the planning stages and you can’t do everything
 
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Francois the Postman said:
You know, it sounds more and more that the building narrative and conviction that "he just didn't have it" finally sparked him to take to the road to *really* prove something. And suddenly he did it without that additional support! Maybe it was more Cadel than the team after all then, that stopped him, not?

"I've gotta win this" should be his default position period. That he needed to get there is telling.

At some point you gotta take the race by the scruff of the neck, if you want to win. To me he made a career out of not doing that, GTs especially. If he's become this new man in 2010, we'll see.

people have said he needed to be more assertive but when he does that, people will say it's his fault for the problems at Lotto. between the tour and vuelta he knew that he was leaving teams.maybe evans could of handled things a bit better but lotto don't have a clue. he is the leader, and being a leader your opinion needs to be heard. lotto obviously didn't listen and he proved them wrong. Lotto were writing him off for the tour so riding for them this year and being invovled with their antics must have been the moment that he'd had enough. Even though BMC dont have many climbers i think they have a team that will dedicate themselves to a leader and the setup at bmc looks like an organised team that has firmly set it's goals. Evans already has his roster worked out for next year with BMC.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Cadel Interview with SBS: Q. What about the ardenne classics? A: Were still in the planning stages and you can’t do everything

Auscyclefan, why do you hear these arguments when Cadel is making them, but somehow ignore that Silence Lotto is facing the same reality check?

You still advocate that Silence Lotto was wrong not to target a Tour win for Cadel, but somehow are ignoring that the costs of doing that might not have been worth the price to the team (and the sponsor). Who hardly take to the road with fans in Australia in mind.

Cadel is riding for Silence, not the other way around.

I think they made a totally realistic calculation, and certainly this year, that Cadel had no hope in hell to win the Tour. They wanted him to ride the Giro, obviously deciding that as far as the team's real interests were concerned (not Cadel's), that's where they wanted him to feature. Why is immaterial.

He refused. They gave in. Which left a situation where the team had a very different set of priorities for the year than a star rider.

You can't do everything. You seem to argue that Silence should have just given up on what they judged desirable, feasible, worth it, and within their means for Cadel's sake. Why?
 
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Francois the Postman said:
You know, it sounds more and more that the building narrative and conviction that "he just didn't have it" finally sparked him to take to the road to *really* prove something. And suddenly he did it without that additional support! Maybe it was more Cadel than the team after all then, that stopped him, not?

"I've gotta win this" should be his default position period. That he needed to get there is telling.

At some point you gotta take the race by the scruff of the neck, if you want to win. To me he made a career out of not doing that, GTs especially. If he's become this new man in 2010, we'll see.

Sometimes people need a kick in the pants to make the stand up and be counted. I think that you may find Cadels default position is I've gotta win this. However, cycling is a sport where coming second matters little, and I am pretty sure that he is aware of this.

Your right, we will if this new winning Cadel continues in 2010, however what I do see is a whole lot of people saying that it was all lottos fault if he wins a load of races with BMC, which wouldn't be fair, I think you pointed out earlier, its quite obvious the differences in cycling culture within the team and what the team was targeting.

Personally, I think the only thing that stopped him winning the vuelta was bad luck, lotto worked freakin hard for him. But how much support can you expect in a GT when these fellas are racing 13,000 odd kms a year??

I look forward for once with no expectations of what Cadel will do next season.
 
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Here is an interview Cadel Evans had with a radio station in Perth called 98.5 Sunshine FM a couple of days ago. It covers alot of thing including racing the TDU, TdF, worlds, his book and of course his move to BMC. It is about 12min long.

I found it very interesting and to me Cadel came cross very humble and down to earth. But i guess that is just my opinion
 
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http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/2174/Contador-still-no-team-worrying.aspx

Contador thinks BMC is one of the strong teams - "I must have a strong team, so I can enter the battle with Saxo Bank, Radio Shack, Caisse, Garmin and BMC. Otherwise I'm vulnerable"

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/2...ect-to-be-stronger-than-Contador-in-2010.aspx

"Both Schleck and Contador will have their hands full as seven-time winner Lance Armstrong goes for an eighth Tour win, and a re-energized Cadel Evans will see the rainbow jersey fight for yellow with a motivated BMC team."

Velonation seems confident that BMC will be there, and AC believes they will be a strong team...
 
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El Imbatido said:
Here is an interview Cadel Evans had with a radio station in Perth called 98.5 Sunshine FM a couple of days ago. It covers alot of thing including racing the TDU, TdF, worlds, his book and of course his move to BMC. It is about 12min long.

I found it very interesting and to me Cadel came cross very humble and down to earth. But i guess that is just my opinion

Thanks for posting that, great interview!
 
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De-lurking to add another link to an interview with Cadel Evans on ABC Radio in Australia played on the sports program Grandstand yesterday. It's about half an hour long: Grandstand Reflections: Cadel Evans. Scroll down to the 3rd audio item on the page.

EDIT: There's a second audio interview further down the page more specifically about his move from Lotto to BMC.
 
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ladvarian said:
De-lurking to add another link to an interview with Cadel Evans on ABC Radio in Australia played on the sports program Grandstand yesterday. It's about half an hour long: Grandstand Reflections: Cadel Evans. Scroll down to the 3rd audio item on the page.

EDIT: There's a second audio interview further down the page more specifically about his move from Lotto to BMC.

it seems that the move from BMC was to do with the setup, the director sportifs attitude/ambitions and that the team would be their to work and dedicate themselves for him even though they aren't the strongest
 
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Interesting John Lelangue interview by Velonation:

JL, BMC and Cadel in 2010 - part one

"When we were speaking, when he saw the team that we had for the race, when he knew my philosophy that we wanted to prepare for the Tour and get there in July, but also to go to the Giro in the best condition…they were all good points"

Giro? Hope so...

JL, BMC and Cadel in 2010 - part two

"This is something that we are discussing, but there is a big chance that he will be doing the Giro. It is a good preparation for the Tour de France. If you look at how he did this year and how he was in the Vuelta, with the same gap in between those races, you could see that he copes well with that. I think doing the Giro is a really good thing in that you have five weeks in between to recover and build back up for the Tour de France. "

"It is a real team-work; it is not something that I wanted to impose, but it is a daily discussion. We are speaking together about riders, preparation, about training camps, about the races, about the programme…they are the most important things. I think that when we are confident in each other, we can do really big things"
 
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Mountain Goat said:
Interesting John Lelangue interview by Velonation:

JL, BMC and Cadel in 2010 - part one

"When we were speaking, when he saw the team that we had for the race, when he knew my philosophy that we wanted to prepare for the Tour and get there in July, but also to go to the Giro in the best condition…they were all good points"

Giro? Hope so...

JL, BMC and Cadel in 2010 - part two

"This is something that we are discussing, but there is a big chance that he will be doing the Giro. It is a good preparation for the Tour de France. If you look at how he did this year and how he was in the Vuelta, with the same gap in between those races, you could see that he copes well with that. I think doing the Giro is a really good thing in that you have five weeks in between to recover and build back up for the Tour de France. "

"It is a real team-work; it is not something that I wanted to impose, but it is a daily discussion. We are speaking together about riders, preparation, about training camps, about the races, about the programme…they are the most important things. I think that when we are confident in each other, we can do really big things"

Nice interview, and I agree with confidence being a huge factor...
 
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Mountain Goat said:
Interesting John Lelangue interview by Velonation:

JL, BMC and Cadel in 2010 - part one

"When we were speaking, when he saw the team that we had for the race, when he knew my philosophy that we wanted to prepare for the Tour and get there in July, but also to go to the Giro in the best condition…they were all good points"

Giro? Hope so...

JL, BMC and Cadel in 2010 - part two

"This is something that we are discussing, but there is a big chance that he will be doing the Giro. It is a good preparation for the Tour de France. If you look at how he did this year and how he was in the Vuelta, with the same gap in between those races, you could see that he copes well with that. I think doing the Giro is a really good thing in that you have five weeks in between to recover and build back up for the Tour de France. "

"It is a real team-work; it is not something that I wanted to impose, but it is a daily discussion. We are speaking together about riders, preparation, about training camps, about the races, about the programme…they are the most important things. I think that when we are confident in each other, we can do really big things"

Thanks, great interview. BMC seem to have a vision and are going places. Intersting to hear he may be going to the giro. It will be interesting to see if evans really goes hard at the giro or just does it as a training ride. From what lelangue has said it is the first.
 
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He's mistaken by comparing last year's circumstances with what he hopes to transpire in 2010. Evans shut it down in the Tour by midway and thus was not overly stressed physically from his efforts leaving him with enough in the tank to be competitive in the Vuelta. A Giro/Tour double in 2010 is an entirely different story. For Evans it is uncharted waters and he takes the risk of coming into the Tour at less than the condition that he hopes. He'd be better served going for the Giro win, then doing the Tour to see how it goes. A victory in the Giro is much more likely than the Tour. I even think that a Giro victory for Evans would do more for him personally than another podium in the Tour. His confidence would definitely increase and we've seen how over the course of the past year how he's transformed himself into a more aggressive rider, more willing to take risks, which to me shows a confidence in one's abilities. An increase in confidence can't help but be better for him in the long run and may serve him well in his continued pursuit of Tour glory.
 
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Angliru said:
He's mistaken by comparing last year's circumstances with what he hopes to transpire in 2010. Evans shut it down in the Tour by midway and thus was not overly stressed physically from his efforts leaving him with enough in the tank to be competitive in the Vuelta. A Giro/Tour double in 2010 is an entirely different story. For Evans it is uncharted waters and he takes the risk of coming into the Tour at less than the condition that he hopes. He'd be better served going for the Giro win, then doing the Tour to see how it goes. A victory in the Giro is much more likely than the Tour. I even think that a Giro victory for Evans would do more for him personally than another podium in the Tour. His confidence would definitely increase and we've seen how over the course of the past year how he's transformed himself into a more aggressive rider, more willing to take risks, which to me shows a confidence in one's abilities. An increase in confidence can't help but be better for him in the long run and may serve him well in his continued pursuit of Tour glory.

The only stage he really shut down in was the one to Mont Ventoux. The other stages he couldn't breath as he was sick but he lost time because he couldn't keep up not because he shut down. The rest of your post i agree with.
 
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Angliru said:
He's mistaken by comparing last year's circumstances with what he hopes to transpire in 2010. Evans shut it down in the Tour by midway and thus was not overly stressed physically from his efforts leaving him with enough in the tank to be competitive in the Vuelta. A Giro/Tour double in 2010 is an entirely different story.

Cadel also backed up in 2007 after a gruelling tour second, to place 10seconds or so off the podium in the Vuelta, but I agree the Giro/Tour double is a different story

Angliru said:
For Evans it is uncharted waters and he takes the risk of coming into the Tour at less than the condition that he hopes. He'd be better served going for the Giro win, then doing the Tour to see how it goes. A victory in the Giro is much more likely than the Tour. I even think that a Giro victory for Evans would do more for him personally than another podium in the Tour.

After reading some of his book lately, I can't remember which section, but it was about Silence Lotto announcing he would ride the Giro. They told him to do it as preparation, and he basically said that's ridiculous. He said he will never ride a GT for preparation, it will be to win

So I think the negotiations with BMC at the moment about racing schedule would be for Cadel to go for the Giro win, and as you said, just see how he goes in the Tour after that.

Angliru said:
His confidence would definitely increase and we've seen how over the course of the past year how he's transformed himself into a more aggressive rider, more willing to take risks, which to me shows a confidence in one's abilities. An increase in confidence can't help but be better for him in the long run and may serve him well in his continued pursuit of Tour glory.

I hope so. I think the new team brings a new mindset for Cadel, and this team in the making is better to have Cadel win a GT (Giro) this year then purely focusing on the Tour in 2011 and 2012.

So I hope he tries hard at the Giro, and then recharge for the Tour
 
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Mountain Goat said:
So I think the negotiations with BMC at the moment about racing schedule would be for Cadel to go for the Giro win, and as you said, just see how he goes in the Tour after that.

So I hope he tries hard at the Giro, and then recharge for the Tour

Maybe that is true, and all the talk of "it's only about the Tour" is to appease certain fans/sponsors and to give BMC a better chance of getting a ticket.

Hope so!
 
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Mountain Goat said:
Cadel also backed up in 2007 after a gruelling tour second, to place 10seconds or so off the podium in the Vuelta, but I agree the Giro/Tour double is a different story



After reading some of his book lately, I can't remember which section, but it was about Silence Lotto announcing he would ride the Giro. They told him to do it as preparation, and he basically said that's ridiculous. He said he will never ride a GT for preparation, it will be to win

So I think the negotiations with BMC at the moment about racing schedule would be for Cadel to go for the Giro win, and as you said, just see how he goes in the Tour after that.



I hope so. I think the new team brings a new mindset for Cadel, and this team in the making is better to have Cadel win a GT (Giro) this year then purely focusing on the Tour in 2011 and 2012.

So I hope he tries hard at the Giro, and then recharge for the Tour

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i think it will be solely on the the tour in 2011 &2012 and in 2010 it will be the giro with the tour. Cadel said about his team that it is one step back two steps forwards. Though they do have quite a few strong young climbers plus some older guys like Hincapie and Kroon which can be handy in the hills.
 
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He has said in an interview that it will be less classics and more at the GT
His program from my guess will be if the invites go his way.
Tour Down Under - mid jan
paris nice - early march
Fleche Wallone - late april
Tourr de Romandie -late aprin early may
Giro D Italia - May
Tour de france - July
Worlds - October

I don't think he'll race after the tour much but if he does it will be the worlds and maybe the giro di lombardia. He may ride one more spring classic but i don't think he will race in between the giro and tour.
 
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there's an Evans' interview in today's Gazzetta dello Sport in which he confirms his participation in the Giro not only as a preparation for the TdF but with the aim of winning it.
 
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balkou said:
there's an Evans' interview in today's Gazzetta dello Sport in which he confirms his participation in the Giro not only as a preparation for the TdF but with the aim of winning it.

Fantastic news!

I'll be gunning for him, watching 15minute highlights on TV at 7am..
 
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It's ironic that Cadel will focus on a grand tour with a team time trial since transferring to BMC from Lotto.

He will be in an interesting position, for once where the TTT may actually advantage him and improve his chances of overall victory
(maybe not against Pellizotti's LG squad, but against many other teams)
 
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blackcat said:
2009 Dauphine

Sure, anyone can attack. But the attacks only matter if they ultimately accomplish something. His Dauphine attacks were simply futile. Contador looked bored when he was covering them. I don't think Cadel has the high end that AC has.

I think Cadel's weakness is his climbing. He's a guy who can hang with the GC contenders when they're not attacking. But he can't really gain time in the mountains. This means that his entire strategy comes down to not loosing too much time in the mountains and hoping to use his TT skills to make up any gaps. While this strategy can work, it's risky.
 
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Mountain Goat said:
Fantastic news!

I'll be gunning for him, watching 15minute highlights on TV at 7am..

Find a mate with Eurosport/recorder!

Will be great, full stages finally.
 

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