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Positioning may be a bit of an issue, he'll probably never be completely comfortable in a peloton. But give him a stage like this any day rather than some giant mountain pass like the Stelvio or Tourmalet. This comes naturally to him, and that's why even when he's not in great shape yet he can win on such a course.
I think any parcours is good for him. He just needs to be healthy and he can beat everybody. In the last few years maybe only the on last stage of last year's Paris Nice he showed some weakness at a race where he was fully healthy (as far as we know, maybe also he was not is top shape). So, let us hope he stays healthy and let us get ready for a great season.
 
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Him dominating high mountains is over, but that doesnt mean he's not absolutely lethal in these kinda races since thats more of his natural element (kinda similar to Valverde).

Will be interesting in Catalunya. Need to actually check the route and the competition, but chances are he'll win that one as well given how that race is usually raced.
You'll like what you'll find when you look the route up.
 
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A trident of wins at TA. On all terrains and against a strong field. Racing very measured. Strong trust and reliance in his team that was always in control and always delivered. From van Aert, Kelderman, ... to the last team member all with a substantial and measurable contribution. At the finish line Primož throwing the bike over the line.

Perfection.
 
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Hattrick, and hats off. He came here unshaved just to help Wout win a stage, and now he has won three.

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If Jumbo starts having doubts about Vinge form towards tdf, Rogla going there will go from a meme to a distinct possibility.

I'd say it's unlikely but Jumbo have already show in the past they're capable of switching rider schedules based on form. We'll see.

I believe that Primoz is improving as the race progresses. Even though it was his 3rd stage victory he was way stronger yesterday than in the previous mountain days and the TT.

I do wonder what Frans Maassen & Arthur van Dongen were thinking & saying in the team car during this race. I mean I can totally get Jumbo might have had doubts about Rog's form this season based on last year's sketchy performanceS, crashes & shoulder operation. But yesterday was IMO the very encouraging & something similar to late 2021 when he was flying. I'm pretty certain they went into this race aiming for stage wins with WvA & GC with Kelderman. But it basically turned into a Rogla show.

So we'll see whether Catalunya is still on the agenda next week or whether they switch plans a little base don this past week.
 
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So we'll see whether Catalunya is still on the agenda next week or whether they switch plans a little base don this past week.

If he needs more base training then skipping Catalunya makes sense. Large volume is crucial for the Giro. It is not a one-week race, where lack of base can be hidden by other factors.
 
I don't think they will switch plans. Roglic looks very good for a Giro win (and possibly a next Vuelta...) And Vingegaard will compete for the Tour win, he's not there yet, but he wasn't last year either. He will be good enough, come Tour. I think they will only change plans if Vingegaard crashes. In that case they have van Aert... :oops:
 
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I don't see the logic of "Roglic looks good so he should go to the Tour" at all when the Giro is actually first. I think the only reason to skip Giro and go Tour would basically just not being ready by the Giro but being good by the Tour so that domestique Tour > lead Vuelta becomes the schedule.

Nothing about Vingegaard this week is especially worrying.
 
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I don't see the logic of "Roglic looks good so he should go to the Tour" at all when the Giro is actually first. I think the only reason to skip Giro and go Tour would basically just not being ready by the Giro but being good by the Tour so that domestique Tour > lead Vuelta becomes the schedule.

Nothing about Vingegaard this week is especially worrying.

I feel that Giro is not a bluff and it will happen.

If Roglič would after be dom at Tour and lead at Vuelta. Somehow i feel that such scenario is possible but even for Roglič 3 GTs on highest level per season. Somehow i feel that that is too much. In addition if he would go to Tour as pure dom. What good would it do? If both Roglič and Jonas won't be in Tour winning position and form. Then JV is still behind.

As for nothing to worry about in regards to this week edition of Jonas. Before the race Jonas to win was a sure thing. At least that is what i read. During the race Jonas didn't prevail in any discipline. He was no match for Pogi not even in his best discipline. Long climbs. He managed to cope. And this is what is reasonable to expect from Jonas. Here he was consistent in the past. Going solo against Pogi. The idea on how he now is or will be an attacking type of cyclist dropping Pogi on long climbs. Solo. The leap to there is in my opinion too big. But for sure both Pogi and Jonas can convince us otherwise in many races to come.
 
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I feel that Giro is not a bluff and it will happen.

If Roglič would after be dom at Tour and lead at Vuelta. Somehow i feel that such scenario is possible but even for Roglič 3 GTs on highest level per season. Somehow i feel that that is too much. In addition if he would go to Tour as pure dom. What good would it do? If both Roglič and Jonas won't be in Tour winning position and form. Then JV is still behind.

As for nothing to worry about in regards to this week edition of Jonas. Before the race Jonas to win was a sure thing. At least that is what i read. During the race Jonas didn't prevail in any discipline. He was no match for Pogi not even in his best discipline. Long climbs. He managed to cope. And this is what is reasonable to expect from Jonas. Here he was consistent in the past. Going solo against Pogi. The idea on how he now is or will be an attacking type of cyclist dropping Pogi on long climbs. Solo. The leap to there is in my opinion too big. But for sure both Pogi and Jonas can convince us otherwise in many races to come.
I know it is too early to draw any definitive conclusions, but it seems to me that Jonas profited from a way too cocky Pogi at the TdF and a very strong JV team (which included Rogla working for him). Additionally, the level of the other climbers was probably a bit iffy since Thomas finished 3rd (nothing against Thomas, but nobody expected him to be on the podium). Now that the spotlight is on Jonas and he needs to be performing at every outing he probably realizes that it is not as easy as when he was just another rider last year. So, if I were JV I would worry.

This opens up a great possibility for Rogla to try and do the double and if he manages to stay healthy I would not be at all surprised if he manages to do just that.
 
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I don't see the logic of "Roglic looks good so he should go to the Tour" at all when the Giro is actually first. I think the only reason to skip Giro and go Tour would basically just not being ready by the Giro but being good by the Tour so that domestique Tour > lead Vuelta becomes the schedule.

Nothing about Vingegaard this week is especially worrying.

I think the bigger question about Rog would be about next week actually (not about the Tour). I mean based on some of the injuries/illnesses & crashes Jumbo have had, do they send Roglič to Milan-San Remo to assist WvA instead of racing Catalunya a couple of days later?

He's got the form IMO.
 
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I think the bigger question about Rog would be about next week actually (not about the Tour). I mean based on some of the injuries/illnesses & crashes Jumbo have had, do they send Roglič to Milan-San Remo to assist WvA instead of racing Catalunya a couple of days later?

He's got the form IMO.
No you don't tinker like that with Giro prep IMO.
 

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I think the bigger question about Rog would be about next week actually (not about the Tour). I mean based on some of the injuries/illnesses & crashes Jumbo have had, do they send Roglič to Milan-San Remo to assist WvA instead of racing Catalunya a couple of days later?

He's got the form IMO.
That would be stupid in light of the plan for Catalunya to be the Giro launching pad. Moreover, Wout doesn't need a strong team at MSR, but just the legs to come over the Cipressa and Poggio with the leaders, to then win the sprint at the end.
 

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I think the bigger question about Rog would be about next week actually (not about the Tour). I mean based on some of the injuries/illnesses & crashes Jumbo have had, do they send Roglič to Milan-San Remo to assist WvA instead of racing Catalunya a couple of days later?

He's got the form IMO.
He is not doing Msr and it makes little sense, there are plenty of better helpers in the team.
 

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I think the bigger question about Rog would be about next week actually (not about the Tour). I mean based on some of the injuries/illnesses & crashes Jumbo have had, do they send Roglič to Milan-San Remo to assist WvA instead of racing Catalunya a couple of days later?

He's got the form IMO.
He said yesterday no MSR for him. And he's going to Catalunya.

Chapeau Primoz, what a comeback!