Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[bill1109]

agree...as you said, if they give him a joke of a route...as he cannot compete with real, in shape, un injured, gc riders in a real gc structured race. and that is ok....but he has his publi(cyst) on the radio more than his DS...saying Kuss wasn't a factor, while he was taking a tactical 20+ minute recess so as to be let lose for gimmick rides for the camera. this is what social media does to riders....and the viewers....thank gosh again for pogi...a real gc rider...fights for the win even when he is beaten..unlike little remco that will instead go for gimmck rides instead of suffering and losing.

its very funny how i hear that remco was key to kuss success...can the ball....wa...sh..ers be any more shameless. remco wasnt a factor....and had nothing to do with anything in outcome of vuelta since he was out classed by all 3 vuelta leaders. he wasn't relevant in this vuelta at all.

 

[Extinction]

its very funny how i hear that remco was key to kuss success...can the ball....wa...sh..ers be any more shameless. remco wasnt a factor....and had nothing to do with anything in outcome of vuelta since he was out classed by all 3 vuelta leaders. he wasn't relevant in this vuelta at all.

Come back when you understand anything about cycling.

 

[bill1109]

Come back when you understand anything about cycling.

i understand much about it. you are just a fanboy...thats all. tell me how many mountains you have ridden again...i forgot...since i have memories of riding my own. you wont teach me anything....dont try. buy post away...you are not worth my time.

 

[acm]

Next race Giro dell' Emilia and then Il Lombardia. And finally some Rog & Pog time!

 

[Extinction]

i understand much about it. you are just a fanboy...thats all. tell me how many mountains you have ridden again...i forgot...since i have memories of riding my own. you wont teach me anything....dont try. buy post away...you are not worth my time.

Raced up more than you shall ever know.

 

[Blanco]

San Luca stomp incoming...

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Now I hope Roglic finally will win Il Lombardia.

LBL certainly is more important, but as a great climber, Rog will want to win Lombardia, too.

I noticed Pogacar will ride there, so Pogi is the clear favourite. Lombardia is just Pogi‘s race. I advise Primoz to stay at Pogi‘s back wheel all race long, and to sprint for the win with 100mtrs to go.

 

[Carols]

its very funny how i hear that remco was key to kuss success...can the ball....wa...sh..ers be any more shameless. remco wasnt a factor....and had nothing to do with anything in outcome of vuelta since he was out classed by all 3 vuelta leaders. he wasn't relevant in this vuelta at all.

He was relevant on stages but that's all.

 

[CyclistAbi]

He is usually very strong or even the strongest but never in a world of his own where noone could challenge him.

Well, they do try.

 

[cellardoor]

Now I hope Roglic finally will win Il Lombardia.

LBL certainly is more important, but as a great climber, Rog will want to win Lombardia, too.

I noticed Pogacar will ride there, so Pogi is the clear favourite. Lombardia is just Pogi‘s race. I advise Primoz to stay at Pogi‘s back wheel all race long, and to sprint for the win with 100mtrs to go.

Sprinting against Pogi doesn't seem like a great plan.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Sprinting against Pogi doesn't seem like a great plan.

One's got to do what one's got to do. It's not like sprinting against Rogla is a great plan either.

 

[Red Rick]

Nah Pogacar cleans Roglic in a flat sprint every day

 

[Rackham]

Nah Pogacar cleans Roglic in a flat sprint every day

Not if Alaphilippe is there.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Not if Alaphilippe is there.

At least he should've won that sprint but failed. What a f**king legend!

 

[CyclistAbi]

Well, historically speaking, not every time. So if there will be a bunch sprint, likely it won't be just in between Rogla and Pogi. So basically Rogla can smoke more of them at once.

Realistically Pogi and UAE will try to keep hard tempo and Remco will likely try to solo. Rogla hopefully having strong enough team to control and to save a bullet or two for the sprint. If it comes to it. Could be some weird combination, on where luck is more important. Could be TTT with Remco or Pogi to the finish line and sprint. We'll see. Rogla is good at all of that.

 

[Berniece]

its very funny how i hear that remco was key to kuss success...can the ball....wa...sh..ers be any more shameless. remco wasnt a factor....and had nothing to do with anything in outcome of vuelta since he was out classed by all 3 vuelta leaders. he wasn't relevant in this vuelta at all.

What I think people meant was that if Remco was in the shape he was in last year at the Vuelta, he would've attacked or set a high pace that only Vingegaard/Roglic would be able to follow, and Kuss would be dropped earlier. Thus giving more room for Vingegaard/Roglic to go for the red, while now they were ordered to stay behind Kuss.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Likely all will and JV should contribute to setting ferocious tempo too. For main favourites to arrive depleted to the finish line. There for Rogla to finally unleash the third week monster. In the last 20m or so. Looking forward to that.

 

[AmRacer]

What I think people meant was that if Remco was in the shape he was in last year at the Vuelta, he would've attacked or set a high pace that only Vingegaard/Roglic would be able to follow, and Kuss would be dropped earlier. Thus giving more room for Vingegaard/Roglic to go for the red, while now they were ordered to stay behind Kuss.

Nobody expected Kuss to be stronger than Mas, Ayuso and a few others.

 

[Blanco]

Well, historically speaking, not every time. So if there will be a bunch sprint, likely it won't be just in between Rogla and Pogi. So basically Rogla can smoke more of them at once.

Realistically Pogi and UAE will try to keep hard tempo and Remco will likely try to solo. Rogla hopefully having strong enough team to control and to save a bullet or two for the sprint. If it comes to it. Could be some weird combination, on where luck is more important. Could be TTT with Remco or Pogi to the finish line and sprint. We'll see. Rogla is got at all of that.

I think Rogla should force it on the climbs, he's the strongest uphill atm. If Pogacar holds than sprint will indeed be. If he settles into Pog's rhythm he won't win that sprint, he needs to tyre him out on the climbs, even on Bergamo Alta.
Oh, and if Remco goes early, or whenever, I think Rogla should follow no matter what.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Blanco

JV should do that, if capable, Rogla meanwhile to be in gruppetto. At the finish for JV to bring out the top gun.

That is it's time to put some trust and confidence behind Rogla again, as team. Not to give in to social media, on where supposedly there are better riders in the peloton, then Rogla. This went so far already that team now even pushes Kuss ahead of Rogla. This needs to stop. As what are the alternatives? For Rogla to focus on classics instead and give up stage racing? PR winning PR does sound tempting, though. I will give them that.

 

[pablohidalgo7]

Nah Pogacar cleans Roglic in a flat sprint every day

As a Rogla fan I prefer a duel between this two in a uphill sprint for sure, I believe that Primoz has more chances there but Im starting to think that Pogacar flat sprint is a bit overrated at this point

I dont really believe that he smokes Primoz 10/10 in flats sprints, no way. For example If I imagine Roglic in the situation of Mas last year Im not so sure what would have been the outcome. Also I think that Primoz is clearly faster than last year Valverde and he challenged Pogacar in Tre Valli Varesine in a fair battle, especially during the first 200m of the sprint.

I think that Tadej is geat coming from the slipstream and launching a final aceleration in that kind of sprints but if he is the one lauching from 200m and Primoz is coming from behind he has clearly a chance.

 

[Extinction]

@Blanco

JV should do that, if capable, Rogla meanwhile to be in gruppetto. At the finish for JV to bring out the top gun.

That is it's time to put some trust and confidence behind Rogla again, as team. Not to give in to social media, on where supposedly there are better riders in the peloton, then Rogla. This went so far already that team now even pushes Kuss ahead of Rogla. This needs to stop. As what are the alternatives? For Rogla to focus on classics instead and give up stage racing? PR winning PR does sound tempting, though. I will give them that.

Roglic is the second best GT rider in the world, behind Vingegaard, until Pogacar wins another again. Kuss is a domestique, who, on an internally orchestrated tactical move, won the Vuelta. Let's make no mistake about that.

 

[Cassirer]

Roglic is the second best GT rider in the world, behind Vingegaard, until Pogacar wins another again. Kuss is a domestique, who, on an internally orchestrated tactical move, won the Vuelta. Let's make no mistake about that.

I don't see what roglic has done this year that would put him above Pogacar (ofc talking performance, not results). His best day was probably the giro TT, and I think with a similar performance in the tour tt he would not have gotten close to beating Pog, who demolished everyone bar vinge. All guesswork of course, but like another poster said, its the distance between pog/vinge and the rest of the world that makes it hard to see how anyone could bridge that, although the posters saying that top form roglic is rarely seen because of crashes are right.

 

[AmRacer]

Roglic is the second best GT rider in the world, behind Vingegaard, until Pogacar wins another again. Kuss is a domestique, who, on an internally orchestrated tactical move, won the Vuelta. Let's make no mistake about that.

Pogi hasn't raced Giro and Vuelta this year.

 

[Extinction]

I don't see what roglic has done this year that would put him above Pogacar (ofc talking performance, not results). His best day was probably the giro TT, and I think with a similar performance in the tour tt he would not have gotten close to beating Pog, who demolished everyone bar vinge. All guesswork of course, but like another poster said, its the distance between pog/vinge and the rest of the world that makes it hard to see how anyone could bridge that, although the posters saying that top form roglic is rarely seen because of crashes are right.

I know, but the Giro is not to be underestimated. It's not like winning the Tour automatically means you win the Giro if you ride it. The fact that after two years, Pog hasn't won a GT, losing the Tour this time by plus 7 minutes to Vingegaard, means he's third behind Roglic.