It's because Roglič is a champion and a winner. You have only few of those in a decade.Funny, Bora had never won the Dauphine (most prestigious weeklong stage race), they hired Roglic, first attempt - victory.
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It's because Roglič is a champion and a winner. You have only few of those in a decade.Funny, Bora had never won the Dauphine (most prestigious weeklong stage race), they hired Roglic, first attempt - victory.
Correct. It depends if you count UCI points or wins. I counted wins where Roglič is ahead of everybody on your list.That’s arguable and depends on how you measure it.
Roglic; 10th, 1st, and 3 stage wins in 3 WT stage races with 1 crash out,
Rodriquez; 2nd, 1st, 4th, and 2 stage wins in 4 WT stage races,
Vingegaard; 1st and 2 stage wins in 2 WT stage races with 1 crash out,
Ayuso; 2nd, 1st, and 5th in 4 WT stage races with 1 crash out,
Jorgenson; 1st and 2nd in 2 WT stage races.
All very similar. Off the top of my head most might have more UCI and PCS points due to better placings.
I don’t think you understand what 5M gets you in this sport.Berniece keeps the same [content deleted] agenda all the time. Bora paid 5M to Roglič for winning TdF. Which is completely wrong.
They are not idiots. They paid to have a shot at fighting for TdF win. They didn't have that before. There was no better GC racer available. The better two stayed in their teams.
It's exposure that brings money. It's Red Bull that brings money. It's being in the top 4 talk that brings money.
More than enough for punny 5M a year.
Oh, and R. already brought them a very nice stage race win to go with it.
Top 3 GC racer with 80 wins, if he's willing to leave his team. Other than that, nothing. You can put 5M on the table and you won't get anything good enough that will bring you exposure and wins right away. Because riders like that aren't let go by their teams.I don’t think you understand what 5M gets you in this sport.
They're paying him 6m euros a year and while you catch yourself from hyperventilating you can think of who they can get......they're waiting for your answer too.They are if they paid 5M to win races and stages. They could've paid a lot less for someone else that does the same
Plus they paid 3M to TJV to buy out his contract.They're paying him 6m euros a year and while you catch yourself from hyperventilating you can think of who they can get......they're waiting for your answer too.
Who? And how much?They are if they paid 5M to win races and stages. They could've paid a lot less for someone else that does the same
Shadow already gave a list. I’m talking about THIS year. Not older performancesWho? And how much?
Well Pogi at 6.3mEU would cost another team, what? To buy and trade him on a long term from UAE?Plus they paid 3M to TJV to buy out his contract.
Pay back so far in 1.5 weeks of racing is 3 stages and 1 GC. I think they're Very Happy with the results so far. Right now there is only 1 other guy that could give them that, Pogi.
Yes, we are talking current performances and Ayuso, Rodriguez and Jorgenson (they would never get Vingegaard for much less than 5M). Let’s say these 3 are currently on the similar level as Roglic, even though I’d argue Rogla is still better than all of them. With same results, they generate less publicity than Roglic -> less return. And then there’s a detail that with Roglic Bora got a team builder. He’s experienced, knows how a great team operates and will be able to lift the entire team. You can’t expect that from juniors…Shadow already gave a list. I’m talking about THIS year. Not older performances
And to add to that: Pogacar hasn't won that 6mEu tour yet. And say they 9whomever that could be) could buy Ayuso, Rodriguez and Jorgenson for a combined 6mEu; would that guarantee a Tour win?Yes, we are talking current performances and Ayuso, Rodriguez and Jorgenson (they would never get Vingegaard for much less than 5M). Let’s say these 3 are currently on the similar level as Roglic, even though I’d argue Rogla is still better than all of them. With same results, they generate less publicity than Roglic -> less return. And then there’s a detail that with Roglic Bora got a team builder. He’s experienced, knows how a great team operates and will be able to lift the entire team. You can’t expect that from juniors…
But anyway, claiming that 5M should buy you TdF victory when Pog is paid 6 (soon 8) while Vingegaard is unobtainable (but if he was, it would be much more than 5). It’s not really fair to demand victory. They can demand a fair chance. Which they will get…
And I was not even talking about Ayuso, Rodriguez and Jorgenson combined. Carlos Rodriguez alone is 2,5 M.And to add to that: Pogacar hasn't won that 6mEu tour yet. And say they 9whomever that could be) could buy Ayuso, Rodriguez and Jorgenson for a combined 6mEu; would that guarantee a Tour win?
Those points for consideration and the real possibility that all of the riders we're discussing won't even finish the Tour for one reason or another. Not an impossibility this year at all.
Jorgenson has a better season than Roglic at the moment.Yes, we are talking current performances and Ayuso, Rodriguez and Jorgenson (they would never get Vingegaard for much less than 5M). Let’s say these 3 are currently on the similar level as Roglic, even though I’d argue Rogla is still better than all of them. With same results, they generate less publicity than Roglic -> less return. And then there’s a detail that with Roglic Bora got a team builder. He’s experienced, knows how a great team operates and will be able to lift the entire team. You can’t expect that from juniors…
Unexpectedly, yes. But also, how many crashes has he had this season?Jorgenson has a better season than Roglic at the moment.
Jorgenson has a better season than Remco at the moment.Jorgenson has a better season than Roglic at the moment.
Shadow already gave a list. I’m talking about THIS year. Not older performances
If Jorgenson is better than Roglic from now on, then he would probably have been a better investment than Roglic. And noone is claiming that Roglic at 5M was the best possible investment at the time. Most likely not - only one investment per year is the best possible investment and it could very well be that last year it was Jorgenson.Jorgenson has a better season than Roglic at the moment.
Does anyone know wat the next steps for Rog and the team look like? Another altitude camp? What’s the fine tuning before the tour?
It could be just a recovery ride... "Working hard" is not evident just from the photo itselfThought he'd need more rest than that.