- Jun 1, 2015
- 1,988
- 3,038
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- Feb 20, 2012
- 51,017
- 39,052
- 28,180
You're missing out on things like Abi voting Primoz Roglic for Ballon d'Or
- Nov 16, 2013
- 25,901
- 26,512
- 28,180
Because wheels are balloon shaped or what's the reasoning there?
- Mar 15, 2022
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He's back on the bike. There is a video on instagram from Monaco
Those bad things may just be over aggression in the first week and a half that gains them nothing but allows Roglic and Remco (and others) to save their best efforts and teammates for the last half. The wild card could be domestique attrition that unbalances the latter part of the 3 weeks. Of course that is a fate that usually befalls the thinner rosters first but keeping any eye on dwindling team depth will be a major part of the game between UAE and Visma.
- Aug 30, 2010
- 3,765
- 444
- 14,580
- Nov 24, 2020
- 376
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- 5,480
Completely healthy and doing his best numbers, except we'll find out on stage 12 his shoulder is half dislocated, he can barely walk or sit on the bike and hasn't slept for 14 days.
Just the usual.
- May 29, 2019
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- 10,335
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Although most are predicting another slap in the face, by Briggite.
Rogla is ready again, to make himself vulnerable. Embedding full trust into himself, surrounding team and into the peloton. It took years to be in such position again, riding as a lead for Red Bull – BORA – hansgrohe. Even the bunch members, the ones with lesser bike handling skills, mutual respect is now too high, for doing it again.
Either a dark horse or the toughest rider in the peloton will win the Tour 2025!
Rogla is ready again, to make himself vulnerable. Embedding full trust into himself, surrounding team and into the peloton. It took years to be in such position again, riding as a lead for Red Bull – BORA – hansgrohe. Even the bunch members, the ones with lesser bike handling skills, mutual respect is now too high, for doing it again.
Either a dark horse or the toughest rider in the peloton will win the Tour 2025!
- Jul 15, 2021
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- 7,180
Sometimes I really wonder if you're just messing with us.
I like Primož, I truly do, but come on...
- Jul 16, 2015
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Yeah even if Rog has his best level (from the Vuelta last year) and things go his way with luck this time, I wouldn't want to jinx things either by making any sort of bombastic prediction.
This TdF is going to be a case of survival. Not just every stage. But every km. No prediction or expectation is possible at any point. We saw that in the Giro. And the Tour is even more hectic as well so... yeah, wait and see.
- May 29, 2019
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Physically Rogla has shown no real signs of decline, by acknowledging stomp won't win him the most prestigious stage races anymore, that IMHO is not something to hold against him, he adapted to circumstances and hence improved. Psychologically there is a huge difference if your team backs you to the fullest and steps up, or it doesn't.
Tour 2025 is IMHO again a time and place, on where it all converged, Rogla wasn't in such good position in a long time, regarding Tour.
- Jan 29, 2021
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- Jul 7, 2013
- 6,533
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- May 29, 2019
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Rogla wasn't Tour team leader at Visma for years. When he fell he fell alone, when Jonas sneezed all leased a bike. In such position, on where you can't even trust your team, good luck racing relaxed.
Rogla was team leader 2020 and 2021, the he lost it to a better rider. Partly because he crashes and DNF.
- Jul 15, 2021
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Imo, Visma and Roglic have always been very good to eachother. The only single thing you can (very rightfully) criticize the team for is "that" Vuelta. But that's not what we're talking about here.
Roglic has been given ample chances to go for Tour victory.
Roglic has been given ample chances to go for Tour victory.
- May 29, 2019
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So what is twisted, Rogla was the leader at the Tour and not Jonas?
Yeah, he did his best result at the Tour 2020 edition, unfortunately at the 2021 edition he was crashed out. After that IMHO he wasn't Tour team leader anymore, or do you claim he was?
Nah. A lot of people were saying Rogla needs to leave this team for years, if he ever wants to win the Tour, way before Vuelta 2023. Over there, Vuelta 23, they really treated him poorly. As for the rest i agree, Rogla and Jumbo Visma being rather beneficial to themselves and that will never be forgotten.
Anyway, at the Tour 2025, one of the Red Bull – BORA – hansgrohe boys can offer Jonas a tissue, whenever sneezing. As i do imagine they will have some tissues around. In case of Rogla to crash. Now IMHO that is a proper team support, can't ask for more. Rogla again in such position at the Tour, after years, i really appreciate that.
Rogla lost the Tour leadership to a better rider. He was leder 2020-2021, and shared with Jonas 2022. But he crashed out and DNF, that's what he does.
- Apr 13, 2025
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- 1,384
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Come on. In 2020, he had a super team at his disposal.
Look at the rubbish team UAE was back then. Besides, Aru and Formolo were DFNs before the mid-race, and two others were sprinters.
Roglic had his big chance in 2020, but a roockie Pogacar beat him wiht a shitty team.
But now we have to consider that a Roglic who's no longer in his prime has a chance against a prime Pogacar, and against Vingegaard, who took the lead from him in Visma.
You contradict yourself. On the one hand, you give Roglic a lot chance of winning the Tour, but on the other hand, you admit he was no longer the leader of Visma. The reason is that Vingegaard had overtaken him as a Tour rider on the team.
I really like Roglic. That's why I think it's best to be realistic with him. Giving him high expectations in the Tour and perhaps even being overtaken by Remco would be worse.
- May 29, 2019
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@AmRacer
@Cycling111
In the gist of it exactly, that is what i was saying, some people acting like they don't know what i am talking about. Therefore after around Tour 2021, Rogla was not Tour team leader anymore, for whatever reasons involved. At Tour 2025 it seems that Rogla is back in the saddle again.
Chapeau!
@Cycling111
In the gist of it exactly, that is what i was saying, some people acting like they don't know what i am talking about. Therefore after around Tour 2021, Rogla was not Tour team leader anymore, for whatever reasons involved. At Tour 2025 it seems that Rogla is back in the saddle again.
Chapeau!
- Jul 15, 2021
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Rogla was the leader for years. Then he was co-leader. Then Jonas got better. You can't say he was treated badly. He got his chances, he didn't win. Admittedly bad luck had a lot to do with it. But also one time because of a very bad TT.
In my opinion it's all good. Jonas got better, and I totally understand Roglic moved teams.
I just very much disagree with the narrative that he got treated badly.
- May 29, 2019
- 9,521
- 10,335
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So basically one could objectively say that Rogla wasn't a Tour team leader anymore, for years, and now he is a Tour team leader again? Or what am i missing here if that is not the case?
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