- Jul 7, 2013
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Yeah, I generally consider Primoz in GT top3 (after Vingegaard and Pogacar) and clearly ahead of Thomas. But TGH may turn out to be a dangerous rival, especially with some tactical help from his team.
Yeah, I generally consider Primoz in GT top3 (after Vingegaard and Pogacar) and clearly ahead of Thomas. But TGH may turn out to be a dangerous rival, especially with some tactical help from his team.
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No, I think nobody will do this comparison. Pantani was dominating 1999 Giro. Remco was not dominating this Giro.
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I hope that Roglic and Jumbo learned the lesson from Planche des Belles Filles and now they will try to put as more time as possible between him and other contenders before Lussari ITT
- Jul 16, 2015
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I could be wrong about this Giro but the whole tactical angle has never really worked much in GT recent history. By & large it's always the strongest guy who takes the win, even when he's outnumbered by GC rivals from the same team. If Rog has the level we expect him to have (no reason why not), then there's not much Ineos can do. We always hear the same remarks about tactical plays but when one rider goes uphill faster than the others... it's pretty straightforward.
I think Jumbo will be quite confident going into the coming week tbh. I imagine Ineos will have the jersey through until Friday, after that Jumbo will need to step up & control it.
I don't know but I'm pretty confident right now. I mean if this scenario had been presented 8 days ago (2 seconds behind Thomas in pink on the first rest day), I'm pretty sure the unanimous verdict would have been it's good for Rog. There hasn't been any crash or illness (certainly not Rog's fake Covid rumor) which has changed his outlook either.
- Jul 7, 2013
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It was at last year's Tour but Vinge was super-strong anyway. Generally all fair points and Rogla is #1 favourite ofc. It's just that, unlike Thomas, Tao is kinda enigma to me. He's in his lifetime form but what is his ceiling? He can have a Hindley-like performance in him and become a serious rival.
- Jul 17, 2021
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We'll probably have to wait until Friday. But good point. To have seconds instead of minutes on the last ITT can be quite a gamble.
- Apr 30, 2011
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He's also quite fortunate that the roles should be clear in the strong UAE team. Almeida has an excellent chance for a podium, he won't try anything wild. Vine is more than 2' back, McNulty just want a stage win. So if Ineos try anything with Sivakov et al., UAE should help Jumbo control the race.
- Oct 2, 2020
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Plus, on a stage when he needed a bike change with racing full on, his DS's car was pulled off the road somewhere for a pee break.
I would think any smart team DS would not want to leave anything to chance (i.e., they should get as big a cushion as they can) heading into that final TT. It’s a very atypical TT and on Stage 20 to boot, they all should be wary about their guys(s) will perform.
Funny thing, there was a short Tratnik interview in the evening news today, he said that, he (Jan) from before the start of the giro, was more affraid of the ineos duo than Remco.
- Jul 16, 2015
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He's soooooo noooot comfortable talking in english. I'm sorry they didn't push him a bit towards learning english better and have better inteviews. He's very different, personality vise, talking in Slovenian language. It's a shame, people would love him even more but he stays an enigma for many.
On the other hand i listened Teo G interview the other day... oh boy. The tension.
On the other hand i listened Teo G interview the other day... oh boy. The tension.
- Apr 14, 2021
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I was kind of expecting him to improve in his communication skills after 2018 season when he sort of became famous. But it never happened. It’s true, in Slovenian he is more relaxed and of course uses much broader vocabulary. But the feeling he just doesn’t like public performance is still there.
But more to the point. Is his nose congested as well?
- Apr 14, 2021
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I am happy on how the ITT on stage 9 turned out for Rogla in regards to performance. First part of the Giro now over, legs rested, Evenepoel out due to illness. Suddenly Rogla being placed second in GC in between two Ineos riders. Almeida and Bora riders still close. Margins negligible. All in all rather optimal position.
So now i guess Ineos to throw everything they got at Rogla. All five of them. All just hoping for Rogla not to throw in half a bike length. Nice.
In all seriousness plan A now likely being to reduce the numbers of other teams. Preferably in week 2. And for select group of favorites to be known upfront going in week 3. And of course to stay healthy and on the bike. Rogla and the team.
Starting tomorrow Ineos might already try to bring another rider from the five closer in GC. Hopefully not just for JV to chase. As there are other teams with their own interests still involved in this race. Ideally Ineos to work. We'll see.
So now i guess Ineos to throw everything they got at Rogla. All five of them. All just hoping for Rogla not to throw in half a bike length. Nice.
In all seriousness plan A now likely being to reduce the numbers of other teams. Preferably in week 2. And for select group of favorites to be known upfront going in week 3. And of course to stay healthy and on the bike. Rogla and the team.
Starting tomorrow Ineos might already try to bring another rider from the five closer in GC. Hopefully not just for JV to chase. As there are other teams with their own interests still involved in this race. Ideally Ineos to work. We'll see.
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- May 8, 2014
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Good stage for him and the team. They were very attentive, always riding in the top 15-20 positions in the bunch and apart from Gloag's crash on that little descent at the end, I haven't seen or heard of any complications regarding their riders.
- Jul 16, 2015
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I'm very happy with how the team performed today & he was always surrounded by his men.
On such a tricky stage it bodes well for what's coming next.
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Jumbo DS: "Roglic came to the bus smiling, he enjoyed himself today"
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Marc Reef (Jumbo-Visma): "Roglic kwam net lachend bij de bus"
Primoz Roglic kon als een van de weinige renners dinsdag genieten van de etappe, als we ploegleider Marc Reef moeten geloven. “Roglic kwam net lachend bij de bus”, vertelt Reef na de finish. “Natuurlijk was het ontzettend koud vandaag. De regenachtige, lange afdaling zorgde er ook voor dat het...
Like a school kid getting back on the bus with his lunch bag after a field trip.Jumbo DS: "Roglic came to the bus smiling, he enjoyed himself today"
Marc Reef (Jumbo-Visma): "Roglic kwam net lachend bij de bus"
Primoz Roglic kon als een van de weinige renners dinsdag genieten van de etappe, als we ploegleider Marc Reef moeten geloven. “Roglic kwam net lachend bij de bus”, vertelt Reef na de finish. “Natuurlijk was het ontzettend koud vandaag. De regenachtige, lange afdaling zorgde er ook voor dat het...
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Let's just say that Primoz doesn't look too good, haha
I think he's having the time of his life tbh.
This is the meat & bones of a GT (i.e. attritional conditions), which I also think will cause massive time gaps when the real mountain stages come. Just look at that reduced bunch that made it to the finish yesterday... i.e. put that same sort of stage profile in Tirreno in March in good weather & there's a 80 man bunch who sprint to the line.
I expect Friday to be pretty epic.
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