Think you need fairly "fan tinted glasses" on to see any real surplus of energy from Rog. The Jombo guys are very open with the fact, that they can jump forward, if they can get separation. Just like GC Kuss tried/did a few times.
- Jun 6, 2017
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I'm afraid the only way he's winning this is if Kuss has a really bad day. But Sepp would be an excellent winner too. Team will have the last word though...
Imagine winning three GTs, in the same year, with three different riders and they all finishing on the podium together.
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It was only 33 seconds because vingegaard is not in his best shape, and benefited from the draft.
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- Feb 20, 2012
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Still want him to win but if I can't get salty at GC Kuss.
- Jul 16, 2015
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"grab every single opportunity at the TdF 2024"
And the answer is Roglič, of course. Time is getting short & it would be a real shame if he's denied the chance to win because of some team orders.
I can get a bit salty after Granon 2022 (aka the 'suicide mission'). I won't reopen that particular chapter but even today I hope people can see how Rog played the role of teammate perfectly there on the Tourmalet & didn't drag anyone back to Vingo, or even Kuss after he went.
- Jul 7, 2013
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Roglic found himself in an unusual situation today with JV being too strong for the rest. I still think he wasn't on his best day today. The Vuelta situation became more complidated, despite Remco being eliminated. It's because Kuss is very strong, sitting comfortably in 1st in the GC plus Vinge is on par with Rogla in the GC now.
- Sep 5, 2020
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I just hope Kuss wins and not Vinge with another long attack where Kuss and Roglič are not allowed to follow or go on their own.
I think Vinge tried to take Kuss lead away today. But he cracked at the end and Kuss managed to get a lot closer. Vinge was clearly not happy at the end despite winning the stage. I don't like JV tried to put Vinge on top today. No one should attack it's team mate like that. Roglič was not allowed to even try. And this is the blueprint for any race with both leaders. Work for Vinge unless he falls of the bike. No thanks.
I think Vinge tried to take Kuss lead away today. But he cracked at the end and Kuss managed to get a lot closer. Vinge was clearly not happy at the end despite winning the stage. I don't like JV tried to put Vinge on top today. No one should attack it's team mate like that. Roglič was not allowed to even try. And this is the blueprint for any race with both leaders. Work for Vinge unless he falls of the bike. No thanks.
- Jul 18, 2020
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With all due respect for roglic, he will not be a leader in the tour, if he continues in this team. It's impossible with vingegaard. Vingegaard is in another level in terms of grand tours, and he is a two time tour france champion.
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Sepp Kuss is leading a Vuelta with Vingegaard right now
- Jul 18, 2020
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Sepp kuss came to the vuelta with leadership with roglic and vingegaard. In the tour, he is a domestique.
- Sep 5, 2020
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No he didn't. Do you even watch cycling? Kuss was a domestique (always). It's because he was domestique, he was let go by other teams in a breakaway and got his advantage. There was no chance Roglič or Vinge would be let go in a breakaway.
Well Kuss did follow and more than once. He did that because it was allowed by the team. Just like it was for Rog if he could. Vinge followed the team plan, a plan that made perfect sense. Was it a harder choice for Rog to leave Kuss alone, than for Kuss to go, probably. Then again I didn't see any signs from Rog, that he had anything but his trademark sprint in him.
- Jul 18, 2020
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Clearly you missed what the team staff, roglic and vingegaard said before the vuelta. They said that Kuss was also going as a leader. Then, he benefited from a breakaway.
The 3GT Kuss has become kind of thing to joke about, as though he’s impervious to fatigue. But there probably should still be some question how he will fare in his 9th week of GT racing this year. Admitted, he pretty easily clawed back time on Vingegaard and looked much fresher at the finish.
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Kuss was also on the limit, he just 8 s to ayuso and cian, and he benefited a lot from the draft.
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Primož Roglič: 'If you want to win the Vuelta a España, you take Sepp Kuss'
Primož Roglič and Jonas Vingegaard look ahead to the final Grand Tour of the WorldTour season
- Sep 5, 2020
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Now read that again. It's clear they came with 2 captains but as usual anyone can win, even the best domestique (Kuss) if stars align. That's what they said. There was no Kuss as a third leader talk ever, except in joke. If it would and anyone would take Kuss seriosly, he wouldn't be let go in that breakaway.Primož Roglič: 'If you want to win the Vuelta a España, you take Sepp Kuss'
Primož Roglič and Jonas Vingegaard look ahead to the final Grand Tour of the WorldTour seasonwww.globalcyclingnetwork.com
- Feb 20, 2012
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Movistar, Soudal and Ineos (LOL) all chased it. UAE meanwhile had Soler innit.
- Jul 18, 2020
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Yeah, a "joke"....or they were really talking serious, like we can see now with Kuss in first.
- May 29, 2019
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Good outcome on stage 13. Now second in GC, rode smart by not attacking much and finished strong. What happens next is a bit more complicated. I don't feel that Rogla (or Jonas) will directly attack Kuss. And with Remco and Almeida out of GC battle it's hard to see a challenger that could challenge Kuss position. Still this is cycling and long way to go to the finsih of this GT. So i guess best to focus on performing good tomorrow and for the rest to unfold on its own.
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