Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[pablohidalgo7]

Please link to those statements made by posters, not just your own interpretations of discussions in a cycling forum.

At least in spanish coverage it was very clear that they were expecting Remco to destroy Roglic in Lo Port (not saying that they wanted it) , and in Twitter and a spanish cycling forum in wich I take part there was a decent amount of people who wrote about how he was washed or at least in a clear decline after 2022 without taking into consideration the healthy problems of Itzulia or the *** preparation for the Vuelta after being injured in Le Tour, and I assume that here it was quite similar, but of course not saying that everyone was thinking this.
In the world of cycling podcasters, journalists and formers cyclist that now works as "experts" I also read that he would never win a GT again and that he was not the same anymore.
Maybe CyclistAbi overreact a bit but is always the same with Primoz, for some part of cycling fans he always has to proof that he is still good enough while others has that consideration even before achieving things.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Maybe CyclistAlbi overreact a bit but is always the same with Primoz, for some part of cycling fans he always has to proof that he is still good enough while others has that consideration even before achieving things.

Nah, no real need for an overreaction here. You described it well, after season 2022 vultures were already circulating. Little did they know they were actually the brunch.

 

[Kazistuta]

Even better then that, you can rewatch the stage on Eurosport. Commentators mining such details, on how Remco is putting on glasses, to look better on pictures, when he finishes it off.

Turned out it was more or less collective madness, so hard to blame them for that.

As for me linking to discussions we had before the season 2023 started. Why? No need for that. Just start reading this thread from end to start. In less than 10 posts you will already get enough clues. Now multiply that sentiment, by lets say a value in between 10 and 100. That is based on your own interpretation and based on how you see it fit.

Okay, I thought you meant in this forum. Roglic is actually very highly regarded around here, as a winner, rider and champion. Of course there will be haters, but personally I haven't seen/heard many predictions about Roglic's downfall.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Roglic is actually very highly regarded around here, as a winner, rider and champion.

Great to hear that.

 

[Elos Anjos]

big LOL at users that think attacking and succeeding is a matter of "choice", "style", "panache" or whatever. @VayaVayaVaya post lays down the line.

Just go for your 40km-60km-100km Sunday ride and try to attack on a last steep climb before the shower. Sometimes you're dead or just don't have it. Although you have the will, legs put you down to the ground. Will submits itself to what is physically possible.

 

[Froome]

Can't wait for 2024 Tour when Remco implodes Vuelta style on stage 14 on Tourmalet or some random hill with a random illness.

Remco fans can also say that they can't wait until Roglic crashes again in the Tour, and leave the race again.

I hope there's no crashes or incidents to anybody, unfortunately something always happens to someone. We couldn't saw nibali, froome, quintana, contador fighting in the Tour, because of that.

 

[Rackham]

No Suisse, nor Ardennes:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1744396513927721137

View: https://twitter.com/dnlbenson/status/1744396513927721137


All in for stage racing.

 

[AmRacer]

Remco fans can also say that they can't wait until Roglic crashes again in the Tour, and leave the race again.

I hope there's no crashes or incidents to anybody, unfortunately something always happens to someone. We couldn't saw nibali, froome, quintana, contador fighting in the Tour, because of that.

Crashes, illnesses etc. is part of the sport.
Whataboutism doesn't work.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

No Suisse, nor Ardennes:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1744396513927721137

View: https://twitter.com/dnlbenson/status/1744396513927721137


All in for stage racing.

What's your thoughts on the Roglic programme Rachkam?? I think it's pretty bad. He should try for fleche wallonne at least. Even Vingegard is doing more cool races.

 

[AmRacer]

What's your thoughts on the Roglic programme Rachkam?? I think it's pretty bad. He should try for fleche wallonne at least. Even Vingegard is doing more cool races.

This is probably Roglas last chance winning the tour. That's all that matters.

 

[Rackham]

What's your thoughts on the Roglic programme Rachkam?? I think it's pretty bad. He should try for fleche wallonne at least. Even Vingegard is doing more cool races.

He's focused on one goal. It's the goal which motivates him. Stage racing is also what he does best as well so I reckon it makes sense.

Personally I'm happy with it. The same article also says Hindley will be part of the TdF team, i.e. something I also wanted as well.

I'm looking forward to the season tbh.

 

[AmRacer]

Is it too much to ask someone to compose a table which of the four suspects racing same stage race?

 

[Froome]

Crashes, illnesses etc. is part of the sport.
Whataboutism doesn't work.

It's part of the sport, but we don't want that, because it's bad for the fans due to less entertainment.

Is it too much to ask someone to compose a table which of the four suspects racing same stage race?

The four will just be together in the Tour.

Dauphine
Remco, roglic, Vingegaard

Iztulia
Roglic, Vingegaard, Remco is not certain but there's a strong possibilty he goes there because i don’t see what other race he can do between Paris Nice and liege bastogne liege.

Paris nice
Remco, roglic

TA
Vingegaard

Vuelta Catalunya
 Pogacar

 

[KZD]

Dauphiné instead of Suisse is a good choice, not riding Flèche and Liège is a shame but understandable.

Several battles against Vingegård and Remco. Hope that all three will remain healthy in order to have some nice battles.

 

[Rackham]

Dauphiné instead of Suisse is a good choice, not riding Flèche and Liège is a shame but understandable.

Several battles against Vingegård and Remco. Hope that all three will remain healthy in order to have some nice battles.

It's about working on communication & togetherness with his new teammates as well in stage race conditions before the TdF.

I get some people are disappointed there will be no Flèche in particular, but it's easy to see the logic behind this leaked race schedule.

4 stage races, 3 in France. Now he just needs to do what he does best.

 

[AmRacer]

It's about working on communication & togetherness with his new teammates as well in stage race conditions before the TdF.

I get some people are disappointed there will be no Flèche in particular, but it's easy to see the logic behind this leaked race schedule.

4 stage races, 3 in France. Now he just needs to do what he does best.

Stomp

 

[pablohidalgo7]

The one-week races excpected for most of the Rogla fans, not really a surprise aftter Aldag saying that Suisse was not ideal preparation, but he also said that Ardennes were a posibility so a bit dissapointed in that regard, but I can understand the logical behind this schedule.

 

[Blanco]

Remco fans can also say that they can't wait until Roglic crashes again in the Tour, and leave the race again.

I hope there's no crashes or incidents to anybody, unfortunately something always happens to someone. We couldn't saw nibali, froome, quintana, contador fighting in the Tour, because of that.

We could in 2015.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

It would perhaps be an admission of a lower ambition, but it seems a shame that he doesn't go for the historic complete set of one week stage races by using Dauphine instead of Suisse.

 

[AmRacer]

It would perhaps be an admission of a lower ambition, but it seems a shame that he doesn't go for the historic complete set of one week stage races by using Dauphine instead of Suisse.

He can win Suisse next year. The tour is the most important race for Rogla this year.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

He can win Suisse next year. The tour is the most important race for Rogla this year.

But is Suisse such a bad prep? The last three winners there that had GC ambitions in the Tour came 1st, 3rd and 3rd. And I really doubt that the reason that Thomas and Carapaz didn't beat Pogacar and Vingegaard was that they were in Switzerland.

 

[acm]

But is Suisse such a bad prep? The last three winners there that had GC ambitions in the Tour came 1st, 3rd and 3rd. And I really doubt that the reason that Thomas and Carapaz didn't beat Pogacar and Vingegaard was that they were in Switzerland.

Yes, because Suisse is too late and he can't go to training camp right before TdF.

 

[Berniece]

I thought he was riding Liege?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Nothing is official yet but i like the tilt toward stage racing. So first race against Remco, challenging TTT involved for sure, then to face Jonas in Spain, then facing both Jonas and Remco before the Tour. At the Tour Pogi gets involved.

Good taste you have there Rogla! Proper, balanced and a healthy meal.

 

[johnymax]

No Fleche Wallonne and no LBL is what I don't like, but I understand the decision.