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Yes, because Suisse is too late and he can't go to training camp right before TdF.But is Suisse such a bad prep? The last three winners there that had GC ambitions in the Tour came 1st, 3rd and 3rd. And I really doubt that the reason that Thomas and Carapaz didn't beat Pogacar and Vingegaard was that they were in Switzerland.
Go troll somewhere elseYes indeed, objective. Especially compared to the many subjective reactions (from Roglic fans?). Roglic has had years to win the Tour. Setbacks (illness, crashes) of opponents are hardly taken into account. But if Roglic does not win a grand tour, it is always the fault of less than ideal preparation. Stay serious for a moment. Hopefully there won't be any hindrance for Roglic for the next Tour, so we can see that he will be clearly defeated then too.
To be fair, if the seasons for Evenepoel and Roglic were reversed there’d be the same discussion going on between the two groups.I can't believe how Remco's fans or Roglic hate is so sour even after six months. You guys need some therapy on how resentful you are.
Roglic has proved time and again that at the moment he's a better stage racer than Remco. His palmares says so despite all the nasty crashes that prevented around four podiums.To be fair, if the seasons for Evenepoel and Roglic were reversed there’d be the same discussion going on between the two groups.
In regards to Roglic’s schedule I wonder if he’ll start off slow and build up to CDD and Tour form or come out swinging. I think he’ll have to surpass the level he showed at the Vuelta if Vinge is the same or better than this years Tour. Just hope no one gets hurt.
Then for TdS next year, it’s not guaranteed that he wins next year but I think we can all agree he’d trade winning TdS this year for TdF.
To be fair, if the seasons for Evenepoel and Roglic were reversed there’d be the same discussion going on between the two groups.
In regards to Roglic’s schedule I wonder if he’ll start off slow and build up to CDD and Tour form or come out swinging. I think he’ll have to surpass the level he showed at the Vuelta if Vinge is the same or better than this years Tour. Just hope no one gets hurt.
Then for TdS next year, it’s not guaranteed that he wins next year but I think we can all agree he’d trade winning TdS this year for TdF.
yeah true. There are some discussions that maybe it's best to do like Vingegaard and take a break from racing before the start of the Ardennes or in general keeping a focus on stage races will make you better at stage racing.Bora has has many riders that can do well at Fleche and LBL, despite Roglic or not, so it makes sense to give those riders the chance there.
They will have a good team for those races with or without Roglic.
He has also won LBL, so he doesnt "need" to win it. It is the Tour he wants, so it is what he should go all in to win.
I don't understand why you would say such a thing after having watched Volta a Catalunya last year. They were basically at the same level, Roglic won due to the arrogance of Remco.The problem is on how newcomers and fans to the sport overjudge some qualities to be proof of a destiny in GTs or one week stage races.
Of course. That's why you can't compare Roglic with Pogacar, Evenepoel, Van Aert, VDP. Just like Vingegaard, he only rides stage races these days. And in the (far) past sometimes one or two big one-day matches. He will do the same (no one-day races) the upcoming season. As a result, he is always much fresher in a GT than riders such as Pogacar, Evenepoel, Van Aert and VDP. Nevertheless, his 2023 level was not great during the Giro (covid Evenepoel and winning only with seconds from the old Thomas) and Vuelta (third).Classic, Monument, workds vs Giro.
Rogla didn't even contest them
Roglič won Catalunya due to the arrogance of Remco. Roglič won Giro because Remco had covid. Man, we're living in a Remco world!I don't understand why you would say such a thing after having watched Volta a Catalunya last year. They were basically at the same level, Roglic won due to the arrogance of Remco.
GT's? Remco won a Vuelta...
Talking about level hahahaAgain no substantive answer. Writing about trolls and attacking others personally. What a level !
Not to mention Vinge won Tour only because Remco wasn't there!Roglič won Catalunya due to the arrogance of Remco. Roglič won Giro because Remco had covid. Man, we're living in a Remco world!
Remco hasn't finished ahead of Rogla, Teddy, Vinge and Thomas in a GT GC.Of course. That's why you can't compare Roglic with Pogacar, Evenepoel, Van Aert, VDP. Just like Vingegaard, he only rides stage races these days. And in the (far) past sometimes one or two big one-day matches. He will do the same (no one-day races) the upcoming season. As a result, he is always much fresher in a GT than riders such as Pogacar, Evenepoel, Van Aert and VDP. Nevertheless, his 2023 level was not great during the Giro (covid Evenepoel and winning only with seconds from the old Thomas) and Vuelta (third).
So Roglic didn't do any one day races in 23? I must be getting old.Of course. That's why you can't compare Roglic with Pogacar, Evenepoel, Van Aert, VDP. Just like Vingegaard, he only rides stage races these days. And in the (far) past sometimes one or two big one-day matches. He will do the same (no one-day races) the upcoming season. As a result, he is always much fresher in a GT than riders such as Pogacar, Evenepoel, Van Aert and VDP. Nevertheless, his 2023 level was not great during the Giro (covid Evenepoel and winning only with seconds from the old Thomas) and Vuelta (third).
Do you even remember how Catalunya? Both riders barely were able to make a dent into each other, and it was a seconds game for the win.Roglič won Catalunya due to the arrogance of Remco. Roglič won Giro because Remco had covid. Man, we're living in a Remco world!
So Remco lost?Do you even remember how Catalunya? Both riders barely were able to make a dent into each other, and it was a seconds game for the win.
Stage 1
Roglic won, Evenepoel 2nd, while Evenepoel rode the fastest sprint and came from far back.
Stage 2
Evenepoel attacked multiple times, wasn't able to drop Roglic and Ciccone. Evenepoel kept pulling those two up the mountain, no one helping, to eventually see Ciccone win, Roglic 2nd.
I would already call this dumb and arrogant of Evenepoel
Stage 3
Evenepoel attacked but wasn't able to drop Roglic, but everyone else was behind. Eventually in the last hundreds of meters Evenepoel was able to drop Roglic, and started cheering 20-30m before finish costing him multiple seconds.
I call this dumb and arrogant again.
Stage 4
Bunch sprint
Stage 5
Remco starts with attacking, but eventually Roglic finally does the same too. Stopped sitting in the wheel and tried to drop Remco, failed. Then at 300m before the finish Evenepoel already launches his sprint, he's already fading after 150m while Roglic was happy with someone being his leadout. In the last 50m, Roglic stomps on Evenepoel, and takes 5-6s.
It isn't the first time that Evenepoel overestimated himself in the last hundreds of meters of a mountain finish. Started way too soon, and collapsed very quickly. Arrogant of him.
Stage 6
Small bunch sprint
Stage 7
Evenepoel kept trying to drop Roglic, but wasn't able to. Remco eventually won the sprint, but Roglic didn't put much effort in it since he already won the tour by 6s.
So yeah overall I would say that Roglic won Catalunya due to being more mature, and Remco being arrogant overestimating his own abilities. Remco could've won this by purely sprinting to the finish in stage 3, and waiting a bit longer on stage 5.
Do you even remember how Catalunya? Both riders barely were able to make a dent into each other, and it was a seconds game for the win.
Stage 1
Roglic won, Evenepoel 2nd, while Evenepoel rode the fastest sprint and came from far back.
Stage 2
Evenepoel attacked multiple times, wasn't able to drop Roglic and Ciccone. Evenepoel kept pulling those two up the mountain, no one helping, to eventually see Ciccone win, Roglic 2nd.
I would already call this dumb and arrogant of Evenepoel
Stage 3
Evenepoel attacked but wasn't able to drop Roglic, but everyone else was behind. Eventually in the last hundreds of meters Evenepoel was able to drop Roglic, and started cheering 20-30m before finish costing him multiple seconds.
I call this dumb and arrogant again.
Stage 4
Bunch sprint
Stage 5
Remco starts with attacking, but eventually Roglic finally does the same too. Stopped sitting in the wheel and tried to drop Remco, failed. Then at 300m before the finish Evenepoel already launches his sprint, he's already fading after 150m while Roglic was happy with someone being his leadout. In the last 50m, Roglic stomps on Evenepoel, and takes 5-6s.
It isn't the first time that Evenepoel overestimated himself in the last hundreds of meters of a mountain finish. Started way too soon, and collapsed very quickly. Arrogant of him.
Stage 6
Small bunch sprint
Stage 7
Evenepoel kept trying to drop Roglic, but wasn't able to. Remco eventually won the sprint, but Roglic didn't put much effort in it since he already won the tour by 6s.
So yeah overall I would say that Roglic won Catalunya due to being more mature, and Remco being arrogant overestimating his own abilities. Remco could've won this by purely sprinting to the finish in stage 3, and waiting a bit longer on stage 5.
Both riders barely were able to make a dent into each other, and it was a seconds game for the win.
Not to mention Vinge won Tour only because Remco wasn't there!