Teams & Riders Everybody needs a little bit of Roglstomp in their lives

[Red Rick]

And he looked less taxed than all of those who finished in front or behind him.

Pogacar is there to win. Vingegaard is there to try and beat Pogacar. Lipowitz is there to make his first TdF podium. Onley is there for his first top 5.

Primoz Roglic is there to enjoy the views.

 

[fenns]

not ashamed to say I had tears in my eyes when he initially followed Pogacar and Vingegaard - what a champ

 

[Valv.Piti]

A bit better than expected. Hot and unipuerto is right up his alley. He has been the 3rd strongest on similar stages (Peyragudes, Ventoux) while being considerably worse than Florian on the two hard mountain stages to Hautacam and Superbagneres.

 

[Faserr]

There are no pictures of what Red Bull did? I think they rolled Onley as a pair which is really cool. Roglic likes Unopuertos and is getting better. Lipo looks still stronger then Onley. If one cracks they possibly still can get the podium.

 

[zlev11]

There are no pictures of what Red Bull did? I think they rolled Onley as a pair which is really cool. Roglic likes Unopuertos and is getting better. Lipo looks still stronger then Onley. If one cracks they possibly still can get the podium.

i think Roglic attacked the group so Lipowitz could sit on Onley and then he attacked Onley and rode up to Roglic. the NBC ticker kept showing Roglic as 15-20 seconds ahead of the white jersey group inside the last 5k or so.

 

[Red Rick]

i think Roglic attacked the group so Lipowitz could sit on Onley and then he attacked Onley and rode up to Roglic. the NBC ticker kept showing Roglic as 15-20 seconds ahead of the white jersey group inside the last 5k or so.

Ah, they only showed time they showed him on TV was with Mick van Dijke pacing and when Van Dijk was gone they showed them and it was only Lipo and Onley and I had basically just assume Rogla had exploded again and was throwing minutes again.

 

[zlev11]

Ah, they only showed time they showed him on TV was with Mick van Dijke pacing and when Van Dijk was gone they showed them and it was only Lipo and Onley and I had basically just assume Rogla had exploded again and was throwing minutes again.

yeah i thought the same thing, but like a minute or two later it started showing Roglic as ahead of them. i still didnt believe it until they showed him with Lipowitz at the finish.

 

[Miha81]

I wanna apologize you Mr. Roglic. I didn't believe in your top5.

He will do top 5 in vacation mode

 

[JosefK]

I wanna apologize you Mr. Roglic. I didn't believe in your top5.

Me, too. Everytime I turn into a glass-is-half-empty fan and think he's washed up, he makes a fool of me. That's why I love him so much.

 

[Miha81]

Friday's stage should suit him. Thursday will be more challenging. I don't believe he will attack Lipo but if Lipo explodes in the final week Bora could give him a go ahead and podium is still possible.

 

[Rackham]

He always does his max, which is a highly commendable trait that doesn't get praised enough. It means whether it's Hautacam last week when he's legitimately dying out there or on a typical Vuelta rampas inhumanas that he's demolishing, he's always going all out.

And I think it's what gives him the ability to read his own body so well.

Friday's stage should suit him. Thursday will be more challenging. I don't believe he will attack Lipo but if Lipo explodes in the final week Bora could give him a go ahead and podium is still possible.

I was listening to Denk's podcast this evening and they're mostly interested in winning the white jersey. It's their number one objective because it has an individual podium photo during the final post-Tour ceremony. He said the podium is a nice bonus and it doesn't matter whether it's Lipowitz or Rog who stands there.

 

[Red Rick]

He always does his max, which is a highly commendable trait that doesn't get praised enough. It means whether it's Hautacam last week when he's legitimately dying out there or on a typical Vuelta rampas inhumanas that he's demolishing, he's always going all out.

And I think it's what gives him the ability to read his own body so well.



I was listening to Denk's podcast this evening and they're mostly interested in winning the white jersey. It's their number one objective because it has an individual podium photo during the final post-Tour ceremony. He said the podium is a nice bonus and it doesn't matter whether it's Lipowitz or Rog who stands there.

I do not see Lipowitz just going away because stages get hard, if anything that's his forté.

Best scenario I can see is being 3rd best on Madeleine and then being the right side of some lucky group dynamics.

 

[Rackham]

I do not see Lipowitz just going away because stages get hard, if anything that's his forté.

Best scenario I can see is being 3rd best on Madeleine and then being the right side of some lucky group dynamics.

Best scenario I see is Onley blowing up, leaving Rog with Lipowitz up front. This would create a no risk situation and allow them to have a bit of fun on Loze or on Friday (if it happens then).

 

[Rackham]

BTW I'll join the opinion of others here who say the real important part is just Rog riding well, getting better and enjoying himself a bit.

I think today when he went low and aero and tried to follow Vinge's attack is probably the first time he actually had proper fun out there in this Tour in a stage. He just seemed so comfortable the entire time and easy on the pedals.

 

[D. Pecher]

i think Roglic attacked the group so Lipowitz could sit on Onley and then he attacked Onley and rode up to Roglic. the NBC ticker kept showing Roglic as 15-20 seconds ahead of the white jersey group inside the last 5k or so.

Yep, that's exactly what they did.

Roglic tried to follow Vingegaards initial attack but soon noticed he didn't have the legs. He went back to the Lipowitz group and paced it, leaving Lipo to take a breather on Onley's wheel. Then he attacked, Lipo followed him and Roglic pulled him up the climb to create a gap to Onley.

Well executed strategy from RBH on a day when both Roglic and Lipo didn't quite have the legs, at least that's what Lipowitz said in the post-race interview.

 

[fenns]

Unless Lipowitz really explodes and Roglic has to go back to help him I think he'll push Onley into 5th

 

[Red Rick]

Yep, that's exactly what they did.

Roglic tried to follow Vingegaards initial attack but soon noticed he didn't have the legs. He went back to the Lipowitz group and paced it, leaving Lipo to take a breather on Onley's wheel. Then he attacked, Lipo followed him and Roglic pulled him up the climb to create a gap to Onley.

Well executed strategy from RBH on a day when both Roglic and Lipo didn't quite have the legs, at least that's what Lipowitz said in the post-race interview.

Evenepoel: "When I'm good I get top 3 in this MTT"

Lipo: "When Rog is good he don't get dropped by no Vingegaard bruder"

 

[Valv.Piti]

Would highkey be super interesting to see more of the group 2 dynamics with Onley, Roglic and Lipowitz in these stages, especially Hautacam and Ventoux. I have the feeling that Onley is getting absolutely worked lol

 

[Filippo_3467]

Best day of the Tour for Roglic and the whole team. Strong performance by Mick van Dijke to be there this late in the climb as a helper. Unfortunately they probably won't be able to get a stage win as Roglic and Lipowitz won't be allowed in any breakaway, but the podium looks really good maybe even two in the Top5.

 

[Red Rick]

Would highkey be super interesting to see more of the group 2 dynamics with Onley, Roglic and Lipowitz in these stages, especially Hautacam and Ventoux. I have the feeling that Onley is getting absolutely worked lol

Hautacam was mainly Lipowitz trying to drop Onley and then waiting for Roglic to come back which ultimately cracked Roglic entirely.

Today I'm not entirely sure if Roglic was riding ahead of them for a while or if they were doing 1-2s because in the one shot we got after Van Dijke was done pulling it appeared to be Lipowitz and Onley alone, which is why I assumed Roglic was dropped.

Onley's Strava file does show like 11 spikes over 600W, but some are a bit short so I don't think it's literally 11 full attacks, and that's all in about 2.5km to Chalet Reynard after Vingegaard attacked. After that we only saw them on the display with the gap to 'Group Lipowitz' and then only in the finale did it become "Lipowitz" so I think Lipowitz rode away from Onley in the final 2km and Roglic had been riding in front of that.

 

[Sciatic]

Would highkey be super interesting to see more of the group 2 dynamics with Onley, Roglic and Lipowitz in these stages, especially Hautacam and Ventoux. I have the feeling that Onley is getting absolutely worked lol

Agreed, but I knew that exact thing would happen with the race coverage because they had to cover the front group going for the stage, and the group or rider chasing them, a camera on the yellow jersey and a moto cam of the remnants of the peloton.

 

[Rackham]

Would highkey be super interesting to see more of the group 2 dynamics with Onley, Roglic and Lipowitz in these stages, especially Hautacam and Ventoux. I have the feeling that Onley is getting absolutely worked lol

Yes. Onley said as much himself after the stage.

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[P4rthen0n]

Great stage by Roglic!
His form is definately improving.

Is there a chance he goes to the Vuelta to defend the title?

 

[Red Rick]

Great stage by Roglic!
His form is definately improving.

Is there a chance he goes to the Vuelta to defend the title?

Very unlikely.

 

[Lequack]

Do you think Visma or UAE let Roglic in the break?