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No was the same in 2025 with the exception of Catalunya. But last year he didnt really have a team mate that was really contending for the win in these type of races.
To be fair, he was bad in his first race in 2024 (Paris-Nice, 5 minutes off the leader) and 2025 (Algarve).
Now that we’ve seen the whole race, Del Toro is clearly much stronger than Pellizzari. Jorgenson, too. Unfortunate bike slip on the gravel stage is the only reason he’s a hair back in third.
- Feb 20, 2012
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I wouldn't call winning by 3 seconds (or 10 on Pellizzari after he attacked from a third into the climb) on a climb that suits you to a tee and after everyone else leads you out to be 'way stronger'
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Yeah, and there was the TdF drama, but he’s being paid to ride more than be a teammate. This probably opens onto other threads and debates about “cycling”.
He put 20 seconds on Pellizzari pretty easily yesterday and is 42 seconds clear. Today and yesterday looked pretty easy to me.
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Roglic is still a serious threat to win a one week stage race.
- Feb 20, 2012
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I had hoped he would be better, but it is what it is. I think trying to help Pellizzari cost him some extra energy, but that's gonna be very marginal.
Still, there's clear reasons to think he might be taking it slower earlier in the season, he's in good spirits, and the coordination with Pellizzari was nice.
Still, there's clear reasons to think he might be taking it slower earlier in the season, he's in good spirits, and the coordination with Pellizzari was nice.
Only if all stars align.
Right now he's weaker than too many riders to be one of the favourites for 1 week races.
Pog, Almeida, Del Toro, Vingegaard, Jorgensen, Ayuso, Lipowitz, Pellizzari, Remco, Gall, Seixas, Riccitello, Onley, Carapaz, Pidcock.
Not to mention Hindley, Vauquelin, Arensman, Ciccone, THJ, McNulty, Jay Vine, Skjelmose, who might be stronger than with him on a good week.
I just don't see Roglic making a comeback.
And I also don't see him becoming a good domestique for the younguns.
He's in a weird spot and might not even be a plus for Redbull.
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If we're gonna really take the piss we can also add Bob from accounting and little Timmy from the school football team.
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- Jul 30, 2011
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The RB doesn’t need to be good to sell. PR isn’t even a loss leader on that margin.
And August is a ways off.
Old and obsolete?
Flesh wrinkles but the core stays the same. Will be interesting to see on how Arnold does in King Conan. After ruling for 40 years on how to take on new challenges to come.
He was always there, without Rogla RBH would at best have Giulio as the last man standing and who knows how that would go.
As for TT and stage 6 performance, two key stages of this race, Rogla did reasonably good. Considering RBH is rather individualistic team ATM i feel that some team spirit was built. Beyond that it's a good foundation to build on. Next race will offer a rematch with Isaac and some other strong contenders in the mix. Ideally for Rogla to finish even higher over there.
I guess the main problem now is for races Rogla actually wants to win he better to take weaker team with him. Plus that means stomp won't be supported. And on top of that you are rather exposed to especially UAE, doing 80km solos, likely with two riders.
Options are rather limited, beyond building up some good form and to go on from there.
Options are rather limited, beyond building up some good form and to go on from there.
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Not a long time ago Rogla (without crash setbacks) won most races without Pog & Vingo. This isn't the case anymore. He wasn't even close to fighting for victory. Obviously this year Vuelta is his first GT so he has tons of time to prepare for it and can start the season slower.
Exactly this. 3 years ago he was very mediocre in TA and still won it and his preparation was clearly worse in 2023 (the season after his shoulder surgery). Pais Vasco is probably the best stage race for Roglic’s ability. If he doesn't fight for the win there, there is really no reason to believe he still can win important races.
I think it will not be easy for Roglic to win big races anymore unless he doesnt face the best GC riders in the peloton.
If you look at how other older riders like the Yates brothers are reflecting on the current level needed they are mentioning that it is just much higher than a couple of years back.
So for Roglic to get back to winning big races he would probably need a higher level than he reached before while being at an age where you normally start detoriorating quite rapidly.
I would love for him to take that record Vuelta win. So maybe if he is lucky with the starting list he can pull it off. But I think he would need relatively poor competition to do it.
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There's been a clear Vuelta 2024 + Catalunya 2025 > what followed that it looks like a clear "better before and not-so-good after" situation, for xyz reasons.
Just one year ago he demolished Montjuic in Barcelona and made it stick against the best UAE rider of the moment. But even though with all caveats taken into account (yes, first race of the reason etc.) his performance in Tirreno just looks like more of the same from the Tour 2025 onwards tbh. It means he has zero punch (this is worrisome because IMO it could be related to injuries finally taking their toll) and on shorter punchy climbs which used to be his hunting ground he's 4th/5th best. And that's reflected in the final standings.
The only other time we've seen him like this before this current 2025/26 era was in the 2022 season in Itzulia when he was carrying a knee injury and looked terrible. And the only seriously 'okay' performance we've seen since the Giro last year was the Ventoux. A 17km unipeurto HC col stage which asked for something more than punch but not too much in terms of successive difficulties.
Just one year ago he demolished Montjuic in Barcelona and made it stick against the best UAE rider of the moment. But even though with all caveats taken into account (yes, first race of the reason etc.) his performance in Tirreno just looks like more of the same from the Tour 2025 onwards tbh. It means he has zero punch (this is worrisome because IMO it could be related to injuries finally taking their toll) and on shorter punchy climbs which used to be his hunting ground he's 4th/5th best. And that's reflected in the final standings.
The only other time we've seen him like this before this current 2025/26 era was in the 2022 season in Itzulia when he was carrying a knee injury and looked terrible. And the only seriously 'okay' performance we've seen since the Giro last year was the Ventoux. A 17km unipeurto HC col stage which asked for something more than punch but not too much in terms of successive difficulties.
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He rode to his strengths and finished top 5 in a decent race again. It’s just a shame that for someone that basically has won it all, that he doesn’t take risks and goes all-in. Played a good mentor role too Pellizzari though
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I thought he did well yesterday. good team work. If Uno-X had not done the work for him, Del Toro might have almost looked tired at the end of the race.
Primož Roglič: “I won’t race a single race between Tour de Romandie and Vuelta a España (where he will target GC). I want to be home a bit, it's been a long time since I was there. I'd like to spend some time with family."
If this is true it is an interesting approach.
If this is true it is an interesting approach.
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