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The general gist from the Russia scandal is pure politics. When the Americans had the same problem a few years back, they were allowed to compete in Sydney and Athens. Why were they allowed? Hundreds of athletes failing tests and the IOC, USOC, USATF, among others, swiping them under the rug. Where was Travis Tygart, USADA and WADA then? Travis Tygart only came forward after Landis came forward and USADA had no choice because this was prolonged by Novitsky. Tygart telling Russia 'to clean up its act' is hypocritical at best. Landis was made a scapegoat much the same way Ben Johnson was made the scapegoat. Carl Lewis failed a number of tests just before the 1988 Olympics and the USOC and USATF let him compete. Johnson won the 100m with ease, but was stripped of the gold medal a few days later and Lewis was 'given' the gold.
WADA's job is to test athletes. They are essentially an affiliate of the IOC. Their job isn't to ban entire federations. Their job is to do testing for banned substances and detect any foul play that may be going on and report this the national federations, head organizations to which they are connected to (IAAF, UCI, IPC, FIFA, UEFA, FIBA, FINA, FIS, IBU, etc).
All of a sudden the IOC is evil because they are not falling in line to America's demand that Russia be banned from the Olympics (and beyond) because some man that worked for laboratories as the head man for RUSADA for 25 years, and who has a criminal record and a US address since 2011 said so. A ton of athletes are unfairly treated and blasted in Western media simply because he said that Russian athletes are under 'systematic doping' from the state. Everybody sees 'state sponsored doping,' and 'Russia' in a NYT article and they've already made up their decisions that the every Russian dopes, without doing a bit of research themselves. Rodchenkov worked for 25 years in anti-doping labs. He had ample time to leave and report on what he saw.
They are pointing fingers at athletes like Alexander Legkov and Iliya Chernousov, for example, because somehow, they took steroids with a cocktail mix, which they then tested positive for, and those positives samples were exchanged with positive samples in a hole in the wall. So the state told Legkov and Chernousov's coaches, a German and Swiss to take steroids with cocktail and they did, and then told them not to worry about positive tests because they'll take care of it? Where was WADA in Sochi? The laboratories in Sochi and Moscow were 'compliant' during that time, but not after the Olympics? Nobody saw any foul play before and after Sochi with said athletes, only during Sochi? These guys had some of their best results while training well outside Russia, in the EU, but also in Norway, where (from what I hear) the anti-doping was 'compliant,' and that they were well tracked by the ADAMS whereabouts system. FIS was interviewed this Summer on potential anti-doping violations regarding Legkov, after the news first broke in early May, and they confirmed what Legkov said, on the amount of times he was tested, where he was tested, and by whom. He was tested by RUSADA, WADA and FIS anti-doping affiliates. Of course that was all ignored by the American media. They had already made up their mind, without doing any research of their own to compare and see if there are any discrepancies.
The other 'anti-doping' people involved, like Hajo Seppelt, are like the incarnations of David Walsh. Has no problems writing pieces on Russians, but when reports of TUE misuse, potential cover ups and non compliance with UKAD, BC, reports on Salazar, Rupp, Farah and that entire group based in Oregon, recent reports of asthma meds being used en masse by the Norwegian Ski Federation-even by non-asthmatics....he is silent as a mouse. If you go on his Tweeter feed, it's nothing but Russia, Russia, Russia. Is this what an 'independent investigative journalist' does? He was part of the team that set up platforms to inform or send in links of doping stories or events or first hand experience. Wonder what the deal is with that. Is that still going on? To me it seems like he is obsessed with Russia and is making this all about politics.
DirtyWorks said:
The general gist from the Russia scandal is pure politics. When the Americans had the same problem a few years back, they were allowed to compete in Sydney and Athens. Why were they allowed? Hundreds of athletes failing tests and the IOC, USOC, USATF, among others, swiping them under the rug. Where was Travis Tygart, USADA and WADA then? Travis Tygart only came forward after Landis came forward and USADA had no choice because this was prolonged by Novitsky. Tygart telling Russia 'to clean up its act' is hypocritical at best. Landis was made a scapegoat much the same way Ben Johnson was made the scapegoat. Carl Lewis failed a number of tests just before the 1988 Olympics and the USOC and USATF let him compete. Johnson won the 100m with ease, but was stripped of the gold medal a few days later and Lewis was 'given' the gold.
WADA's job is to test athletes. They are essentially an affiliate of the IOC. Their job isn't to ban entire federations. Their job is to do testing for banned substances and detect any foul play that may be going on and report this the national federations, head organizations to which they are connected to (IAAF, UCI, IPC, FIFA, UEFA, FIBA, FINA, FIS, IBU, etc).
All of a sudden the IOC is evil because they are not falling in line to America's demand that Russia be banned from the Olympics (and beyond) because some man that worked for laboratories as the head man for RUSADA for 25 years, and who has a criminal record and a US address since 2011 said so. A ton of athletes are unfairly treated and blasted in Western media simply because he said that Russian athletes are under 'systematic doping' from the state. Everybody sees 'state sponsored doping,' and 'Russia' in a NYT article and they've already made up their decisions that the every Russian dopes, without doing a bit of research themselves. Rodchenkov worked for 25 years in anti-doping labs. He had ample time to leave and report on what he saw.
They are pointing fingers at athletes like Alexander Legkov and Iliya Chernousov, for example, because somehow, they took steroids with a cocktail mix, which they then tested positive for, and those positives samples were exchanged with positive samples in a hole in the wall. So the state told Legkov and Chernousov's coaches, a German and Swiss to take steroids with cocktail and they did, and then told them not to worry about positive tests because they'll take care of it? Where was WADA in Sochi? The laboratories in Sochi and Moscow were 'compliant' during that time, but not after the Olympics? Nobody saw any foul play before and after Sochi with said athletes, only during Sochi? These guys had some of their best results while training well outside Russia, in the EU, but also in Norway, where (from what I hear) the anti-doping was 'compliant,' and that they were well tracked by the ADAMS whereabouts system. FIS was interviewed this Summer on potential anti-doping violations regarding Legkov, after the news first broke in early May, and they confirmed what Legkov said, on the amount of times he was tested, where he was tested, and by whom. He was tested by RUSADA, WADA and FIS anti-doping affiliates. Of course that was all ignored by the American media. They had already made up their mind, without doing any research of their own to compare and see if there are any discrepancies.
The other 'anti-doping' people involved, like Hajo Seppelt, are like the incarnations of David Walsh. Has no problems writing pieces on Russians, but when reports of TUE misuse, potential cover ups and non compliance with UKAD, BC, reports on Salazar, Rupp, Farah and that entire group based in Oregon, recent reports of asthma meds being used en masse by the Norwegian Ski Federation-even by non-asthmatics....he is silent as a mouse. If you go on his Tweeter feed, it's nothing but Russia, Russia, Russia. Is this what an 'independent investigative journalist' does? He was part of the team that set up platforms to inform or send in links of doping stories or events or first hand experience. Wonder what the deal is with that. Is that still going on? To me it seems like he is obsessed with Russia and is making this all about politics.
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