Federal Prosecutor Doug Miller Assigned to Landis case

[Colm.Murphy]

can we just ignore the trolls ?

on topic, i found this statistic very interesting - overall conviction rate in america is 65-80% with california consistently being hiigher - around 80-90%.

in miller's county it's like 90%. does not look good for armstrong typical skating

http://www.grandjuryfoundation.org/lgconvictions_table2.pdf

Snap.

For those who downplay this, the above link should be a wakeup call.

 

[frenchfry]

Let's see.

Michael Milken, net worth $2.1 BILLION, RICO charge, 10 years in prison.

John Rigas (Adelphia), net worth $2.0 BILLION, tax evasion, 15 years in prison

Bernie Madoff, net worth $825 MILLION, securities fraud, 150 years in prison

Kenneth Lay (ENRON), net worth $400+ MILLION, fraud, 45 years in prison

Dennis Kozlowski (Tyco), net worth $400 MILLION, fraud, 25 years in prison


Lance Armstrong, net worth $125 MILLION


Now, I'm not suggesting Armstrong will go to prison, or even if he truly deserves any incarceration, but the "retrosexual G-Men" seem to do pretty well with the bigger fish...

According to my calculations, 7 years would be appropriate for Lancey-poo.

 

[MacRoadie]

According to my calculations, 7 years would be appropriate for Lancey-poo.

Again, I'm not suggesting that Armstrong deserves any prison time. Far from it.

I just find it amazing that some of the fan boys here can be so flippant in the face of at least the legitimacy of a federal investigation.

This is the federal government here, not the Keystone Cops. These guys get paid to put people in prison. Thy make more money by putting more people in prison.

They don't care about doping, they care about federal crimes like fraud and the RICO statutes. The problem for Armstrong isn't in whatever indictment may or may not be filed, it's in anything and everything else that may be uncovered during the course of the investigation.

 

[Hugh Januss]

20 years per count...hahaha
for doping in Bicycle racing....hahaha

Maybe Lance will be sent to a French penitentiary on Devil's Island in French Guiana. But Lance will escape. No prison has EVER held a Seven Time TdF Winner. Lance will bribe the screws.

Or maybe President Obama will pardon Lance.

You're working really hard here and one has to admire that, but you got nothing, nothing. Stop now, you will only embarrass yourself further.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

The problem for Armstrong isn't in whatever indictment may or may not be filed, it's in anything and everything else that may be uncovered during the course of the investigation.

To be sure, it is both. On the commercial side, yes, it is what is uncovered, however, that info may also lead to real jail time.

As you well stated, these guy put people in prison for their job. They are not writing moving violations or catching truants.

The more serious stuff start now, or else the prosecutor's name would not have shown up in a New York newspaper.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Comrades Bro-Deal Hog et-al,
Your nemisis Lord Pharmstrong who has given into the Dark-Side since 1992 has this going for him.
He is white, gainfully employed, and is a sports hero. If you think the as you call him douce is going down forget it. Only one way and that is if he were to be raided and PEDs were found or Lance gets a pos in the Suisse race or France race.
If the FEDs take this case seriously it will take a 3 year investigation before a possible trial. We are not talking Manual Noriega here. Lance is not the Axis of evil or Bin-Laden as much as you want to think of Lance in that manner.
Check this out. I watched Manny Rodriguez tear it up for years, an unreal ballplayer, juiced to the gills in the series, star player. He gets traded from Boston to the Dodgers. He gets popped for PEDs 4 month suspension and Manny is back tearing it up. Was their evidence? Was Rodriguez part of an organized doping ring? Was he investigated by the FEDs? Find the answers comrades sorry to F-up your wet dream. Also how long did the Balco investigation go on. US PED suppliers US athletes. Right up the road from my house in San Mateo.

You mean this "Manny Rodriguez"? http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/30622607/
FFS man, how much do you usually drink before posting?

 

[Barrus]

SSDD. SSDD. SSDD.

Something I've always wondered with the talk about Armstrogn what does SSDD mean?

 

[Joey_J]

You know what they call the guy who finished last on the bar exam?

Sen..oops..Pres Obama

 

[Oldman]

PS I still hear they're going to drag Armstrong back before the Tour.

It'll take them awhile to get their lower tier witnesses in the hot seat and get conclusive direction. Armstrong may actually start the Tour. While I always thought he'd retire from it with some tragic or heroic injury I would not have guessed it would be to his ego.

 

[rhubroma]

They also make you do stuff like this. Confession with tears:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_R9esnDzp0

I had forgoten about this confession. What a sappy bunch of hypocritical drivel. Why should we care about her personal familial relations, or the patriotic ones with her country, or her belief in divine mercy?

She was a doper, like so many in the world of US sport, in the world of sport at large: this sentimental insistence on being morally at fault beyond anything that has to do with the rules of sport is only a base pretence to conger public sympathy, which is distasteful. For only the naive fan would believe track athletes clean these days, thus should be held subject not for having been hoodwinked, but for their own stupdity. Including her relatives.

Let down her nation? Why? As if America didn't have its own state doping programs the way ex-East Germay, ex-Soviet Union did and China does to ideologically promote the glory of the homeland at the Olympics.

God's forgiveness? As if the Allmighty, who is supposed to be all-benevolent, would invest so much consideration in the downfall of athletes, when such a deity seemingly couldn't have cared less for the thousands of lives lost or slowly dying or mutilated and so forth, caused by the criminal Union Carbide disaster of 84. That is if we are to judge by the just announced court sentence, as we read in the dailies recently. With all the world's injustices she has the gall to publicly say that she asked for God's forgivenes, which should be an undisclosed personal matter if she were sincere.

It is truly a grotesque world we live in, without any sense of the ridiculous or of decency.

I would like nothing more for this investigation to bring Lance and his gang down. For the simple truth to come out, and would only hope that he spares us this type of tasteless rhetoric: which is exactly what it is.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Something I've always wondered with the talk about Armstrogn what does SSDD mean?

Same sh**, different day.

Susan

 

[Hugh Januss]

They also make you do stuff like this. Confession with tears:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_R9esnDzp0

Lance will blame cancer.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Same sh**, different day.

Susan

Mods, Mods, she is using profanity. That was as bad as anything OAR poste........Oh uhm, nevermind.

 

[Colm.Murphy]

It'll take them awhile to get their lower tier witnesses in the hot seat and get conclusive direction. Armstrong may actually start the Tour. While I always thought he'd retire from it with some tragic or heroic injury I would not have guessed it would be to his ego.

My ears hear that riders are falling in line... not much arm twisting when everyone hates the guy, that and the Feds are only asking once nicely.

 

[ExRower]

Who are you quoting? I think most fans of the sport know about the drug use that GC guys needed to compete. I've always known this.

I'm interested in this prison point. Is this what people want here? You tell me, I don't want to put words in your mouths. What sort of yearage are you hoping for?

Obvious troll is obvious.

They would not have "needed" it if they weren't cheating in the first place.

 

[blackcat]

two words

perp

walk

 

[Hugh Januss]

My ears hear that riders are falling in line... not much arm twisting when everyone hates the guy, that and the Feds are only asking once nicely.

Can the Lance PR machine somehow spin everybody that finished behind him in 7 straight Tours into 'bitter losers' when they all testify against him?

 

[hektoren]

You, evil, evil people!

 

[auscyclefan94]

disingenious is a special new word invented by our special "new" forum member, Jimmy Riddle. Although no definition can be found in the dictionary, every post of Jimmy's exemplifies the meaning.

i think it was a spelling error. he meant disingenuous.

 

[stefank]

How can this happen in a land that elevated that nice pill-popping Roger Ramjet to the status of "Hero Of Our Nation"? (that's what it says on my RR t-shirt)

 

[La Vie Claire]

Lance Armstrong, net worth $125 MILLION

That's a lot wrist bands. Speaking of which, my friend's kid was wearing one the other day. I didn't have the heart to steer him to this forum.

 

[Animal]

That's a lot wrist bands. Speaking of which, my friend's kid was wearing one the other day. I didn't have the heart to steer him to this forum.

Don't bother. There's no point breaking people's illusions. Panem et circenses.

My missus (being of Jamaican heritage way back), loves Usain Bolt's success story. I haven't the heart to explain just how corrupt sport in general is. It's just a bit of fun in her life.

 

[Anonymous]

PS I still hear they're going to drag Armstrong back before the Tour.

...well then, we can count on Armstrong riding the Tour. Its Sept 5th all over again...

 

[Anonymous]

you clowns need to realise that in the USA rights are different for people of substance vs clowns who hang around on message boards performing mental masturbation...............

How would you know?

 

[Anonymous]

A few questions.

Which fanboys said there was nothing to see here? Can you give the link?

Isn't this a different guy to the guy that was supposed to be taking the case and was particularly good at going after sportsmen? Are you disappointed that the leaks turned out to be only partly true?

And lastly, I note there are a lot of attacks on one rider and the fans of that rider. This is supposed to be about anti doping, right?

Can't read, huh? No, he is the prosecutor backing up the guy who is particularly good at going after sportsmen.