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			Don't know what to think. Netherlands won their two games, but their play has been almost as unimpressive as Italy's.
I'm not sure Spain will top their group or get a free ride now that everyone knows who to knock them and they seem not to have alternative solutions.
		
		
	 
I see Italy as a strong team because its hard to beat them in knockout stages. I Dont ever expect Italy to score many goals or even have that many chances. But especially in knockout games they are very difficult to beat.
As far as i remember their last match at the world cup is always a draw.
1990 - drew to Argentina  0-0/1-1?   lost on penalties (defending champs +finalists)
1994 drew to brazil, 0-0    lost on penalties in final
1998 drew to france, 0-0 lost on penalties (eventual winner)
2002 lost to south korea, last minute extra time golden goal (eventual semi finalist)
2006 drew 1-1 to france, won on penalties in final 
Also people act as if Spain beat Italy in 2008.   nah nah  They won on penalties.
Guess what the score was
Yep  thats right 0-0
 
So come to think of it when was the last time Italy lost (speaking 90 mins wise) a knockout game in the WC. i dont know
Even if Netherlands are better which i think they are, italy let in very little goals and are a team i would sure as hell want to avoid. 
As for Spain, if Switzerland draw Chille and beat Honduras Spain cant come first which would give them a very difficult route to final. But if Switzerland dont do that and SPain beat honduras and Chille then they will come top and then face  Portugal/ Cotedivoir in last 16 and Paraguay/ denmark/ japan  in quaters, none of which were seeded teams. Thats what i call a free ride to semis- not having to play any seeded teams .