FIFA World Cup 2010

[zapata]

someone will get a red card soon

 

[CycloErgoSum]

Kaka...yes, deserved red

EDIT: or maybe not. Someone had to get one to diffuse that millieu; why Brazil getting involved - they could point to the scoreboard and walk away.

 

[workingclasshero]

Kaka...yes, deserved red

stupid thing to do from kaka but keita is the sort of player which has ruined the enjoyment of watching top level football

 

[icefire]

Kaka...yes, deserved red

He won't be missed. Selling Kaká to Real Madrid by 65M € must have been one of the best deals ever made by Mr Berlusconi.

 

[zapata]

that was just plain dumb of kaka, having a yellow already.

 

[Moondance]

CdI is being despicable. I hope the get a massive fine for their conduct this game. It has been unacceptable

 

[icefire]

CdI is being despicable. I hope the get a massive fine for their conduct this game. It has been unacceptable

As likely as having a video referee, unfortunately in both cases

 

[CycloErgoSum]

If they can keep a lid on their temper, Brazil will win this World Cup in a canter. Especially as it's OK for them to use their hands and the referee will consult them if he has any doubts.

 

[The Hitch]

How can the ref give a red for something he hasnt seen????

 

[The Hitch]

I think with the handball the referee DIDNT see it. Then players complained to him so he decided to ask LF if he handballed it but wouldnt rule it out because he hadnt seen it. Strange though considering later on he would send someone off for something the CDI playes said he did which he actually didnt.

 

[icefire]

Video referee can fix this, but FIFA won't let that happen. I can only see it if big clubs in Europe join to lobby for it and threaten UEFA to run their own league.

 

[The Hitch]

Maybe Fifa could punish Keita with a match ban for that disgraceful act. Uefa had a chance to discourage diving earlier this season by giving eduardo a ban for it but they chickened out, so i dont expect fifa to act though hopefully they will.
Also
When referees make bad mistakes at world cups they are usually sent home. Surely that mistake (asking players whether to give the opposition a red card) is bad enough. Hes got to go.

 

[icefire]

He will be sent back home despite being French as France's likely elimination would increase his chances to stay. But he'll go home quietly. Any FIFA action that can be seen as overruling a referee's decision might be used by the proponents of video referees in their campaign

 

[The Hitch]

He will be sent back home despite being French as France's likely elimination would increase his chances to stay. But he'll go home quietly. Any FIFA action that can be seen as overruling a referee's decision might be used by the proponents of video referees in their campaign

nice

Like you i really would like to see video technology. The (supposed) pleasure from getting a decision you dont deserve handed to you is not as big as the displeasure and anger from getting a decision you do deserve go against you.
Its the ones that go against you that you never forget.

But i long ago stopped expecting fifa or uefa to do anything about it.

Because of my nature i cant look past the idea that they enjoy and find it profitable when a controversy arises. Afterall controversy creates cash.

eg if france and ireland had just played out it would have been forgotten about after a few days. But because of the handball it was on the front pages for weeks. Over here thats what parasites like the sun (the tabloid which wrote the E A S Y headline) feed on.

And in England and South America, having video technology could save innocent referees and their families recieving death threats.

ps what happened to Uefas extra officials on the goal line scheme, which they used in the europa league. Its not video technology but its a step in the right direction. I hope Uefa have decided to keep using it but knowing fifa and uefa i dont have high hopes where thats concerned.

 

[CycloErgoSum]

What? He asked the opposition players? Is that confirmed? Did he consult the fourth official?

First he asks Fabiano if he handled the ball. This referee really wants to be liked.

 

[The Hitch]

What? He asked the opposition players? Is that confirmed? Did he consult the fourth official?

First he asks Fabiano if he handled the ball. This referee really wants to be liked.

Heres what happened

1 Keita runs into Kaka and falls like a heap clutching his head (even though replays show kaka did nothing)
2 The assistant was too far away too see it as was the 4th official.
3 The referee is looking elsewhete as Keita falls over and goes over to solve a different dispute while Keita is lying on the ground.
4 Ref turns around and sees Keita lying down. The ivory coast players point at Kaka and do motions with their ellbows to suggest kaka ellbowed Keita.
5 The ref looks at them, then nods and goes to Kaka to give him a second yellow and hence red.

No time for discussions with assistant or fourth official and neither saw the off the ball incident.

He was probably influenced by the fact that kaka got a really silly yellow card for an off the ball incident 1 min earlier and was clearly full of adrelaline, so the referee wasnt surprised by suggestions that he had gone and done a similar thing a minute later (footballers are known to get 2 yellows for bad behaviour in quick succesion)

 

[Colm.Murphy]

nice

Like you i really would like to see video technology. The (supposed) pleasure from getting a decision you dont deserve handed to you is not as big as the displeasure and anger from getting a decision you do deserve go against you.
Its the ones that go against you that you never forget.

But i long ago stopped expecting fifa or uefa to do anything about it.

Because of my nature i cant look past the idea that they enjoy and find it profitable when a controversy arises. Afterall controversy creates cash.

eg if france and ireland had just played out it would have been forgotten about after a few days. But because of the handball it was on the front pages for weeks. Over here thats what parasites like the sun (the tabloid which wrote the E A S Y headline) feed on.

And in England and South America, having video technology could save innocent referees and their families recieving death threats.

ps what happened to Uefas extra officials on the goal line scheme, which they used in the europa league. Its not video technology but its a step in the right direction. I hope Uefa have decided to keep using it but knowing fifa and uefa i dont have high hopes where thats concerned.

100% proponent of getting it right, and if that means adopting new technology in order to do so, then so be it.

That the France Ireland contro could have been handled, with Ireland obviously going through, the technology could have saved me from massive anger and depression for a few days.

Ok, enough cranking about it.

Get some video replay/review process down and get the calls correct.

 

[craig1985]

 

[Moondance]

It is of course horrible simulation by the Ivorian, however, IMO it is just deserts for the even more scandalous move Rivaldo pulled off in 2002.

 

[workingclasshero]

It is of course horrible simulation by the Ivorian, however, IMO it is just deserts for the even more scandalous move Rivaldo pulled off in 2002.

99,9 % of top level footballers are awful, cheating scumbags. horrible human beings

 

[The Hitch]

99,9 % of top level footballers are awful, cheating scumbags. horrible human beings

The best example of this is when they asked thierry henry if he was sorry. He said yes. The next question was something along the lines of, if the ref asked you if it was a handball, would you admit to have handled it. Henry looked at the questionare with what was a mixture of surprise and disgust, then said "huh, no why would i " and walked of.



Warning, the preceding conversation came entirely from memory so may be innacurate.
I cant remember exactly what the question and answer was but the point was Henry first said sorry, and then admitted that he didnt really feel guilty about it at all, confirming that the sincerity of his apology should not be believed.

 

[The Hitch]

It is of course horrible simulation by the Ivorian, however, IMO it is just deserts for the even more scandalous move Rivaldo pulled off in 2002.

Agreed. Rivaldos behaviour was horrible, but in the end it didnt work out too badly for him. He got the Turk sent of and scored 5 mins later. He then scored in each of the next 4 games before winning the world cup.

However in that incident the Turkish player deserved a card, because he had afterall blasted the ball at rivaldo.

In this case Kaka didnt deserve the yellow, and almost the entire ivory coast team conspired to get him sent off for the nonexistent foul. (probably just for kicks and giggles)

 

[craig1985]

From the Football Italia website (simple google check):

Well New Zealand's goal was clearly offside. The commentators here in Australia all agreed. The New Zealanders also threw in many elbows and should been dealt with more red/yellow cards.

We should have won. We dominated possession and shots on goal. What annoys me most is that Di Natale, Camoranesi and Pazzini should have all started rather than being subs. Then Lippi tries to win the game in the second half when he has less time available.

We should have fielded three strikers and put them to the sword from the start! Also, yeah it would have been great to have Cassano in the team. We lack a true #10.
Dave Camerota, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA

So how is the sour grapes mate?

 

[Moondance]

Come on Portugal... Beat those Korean for Capitalism!!!

 

[Moondance]

Awww... The Portuege had black armbands during the anthem playing, presumably for Jose Saramago. Nice gesture, although the odds that any player on the team has ever read one of his works is next to zero.