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I feel sorry for Colombia who've had an excellent World cup, the future is bright for them. I'm struggling to believe a Brazil side as negative as this one is now in the semi-finals. Apart from a poor Cameroon they have rarely dominated any of the opposition so far.

I hope Germany teach them a lesson. I believe it will be a Germany v Holland final.
 
It's easy to criticize Brazil and say they're poor for a Brazilian team but the thing is, no team has looked better than them. Sure their usual second half relaxation slash fear could cost them dearly against one of the top teams, but still, hasn't Germany shown more weakness than them? Hasn't Argentina? Belgium?

Despite what our Dutchies say, the only team I see at their level is the Netherlands.
 
hrotha said:
It's easy to criticize Brazil and say they're poor for a Brazilian team but the thing is, no team has looked better than them. Sure their usual second half relaxation slash fear could cost them dearly against one of the top teams, but still, hasn't Germany shown more weakness than them? Hasn't Argentina? Belgium?

Despite what our Dutchies say, the only team I see at their level is the Netherlands.

Well the thing about the Brazilians in this WC is that they of course defend with a lot of heart. Plus they were very lucky with some of the decisions in their games. What also marks a difference is that they don't give a very good approach in their attacking build up and usually seem pretty much out of ideas. Almost all of the other teams in the Quaters and a lot of the teams in the round of last 16 showed a lot more flexibility.

But up untill today didn't face any real offensive threat. And that which they did face, they mostly successfully raped to death with fouls. Today it was more or less the same, also thanks to the fact that Colombia also like to foul a lot. There where so many fouls no real rhythm could establish itself. I doubt that this'll work in the same way against Germany or whoever turns up in the final if they make it.

It's very sad that Neymar is out of the Cup and is injured. But it is somehow fitting that he is kicked out by the way Brazil are playing all of the tournament now. You can only marvel if the obvious FIFA referee order was thought up to play into the hands of the hosts. The refs are way to forgiving on a lot of very harsh challenges.
 
Rechtschreibfehler said:
Just watch the replay next time. :p

Don't you think your reaction is somewhat cynical?

Nope. And I saw the replay. It just didn't look all that bad to me. I was wrong. Not the first time and I'm sure it won't be the last.

I still think he's overly dramatic.
 
Tough luck for Neymar and Thiago Silva.


If this German team cannot beat Brazil without their two best players, they will be for ever remembered as chokers.

Hoping the Argies and the Dutch go through to the Semis, but fear the Arg Vs Bel match will be dire.

They are the two most uninspiring teams in the Quarters.
 
Lots of hate on Colombia from Brazilian fans this morning due to Neymar's injury. I don't wish any player to be hurt but they spent the whole game kicking lumps out of Rodriguez whenever he had the ball so they cannot complain if Neymar was on the receiving end of a bad challenge. If your going to give it then you risk it biting you on the backside.

If they want to blame anyone blame the coward of a referee who couldn't do his job properly, had he booked the players who committed the first bad challenges they would have stopped there and then.
 
Congrats to Germany/ Brazil.

I really wanted Colombia to take it to Extra time, but at least they again continued to play exciting football. Luiz was great :)

Germany should make it through to the finals- who's most likely to replace Neymar/ what would their likely formation be???
 
Great match in terms of energy, terrible in terms of technique and fouls. The new US audience probably will have liked it, is was more American football than soccer.

The thing is... Brazil won't even miss Neymar that much, their style of play is just kick and rush with a bodybuilder up front.
 
Pricey_sky said:
Lots of hate on Colombia from Brazilian fans this morning due to Neymar's injury. I don't wish any player to be hurt but they spent the whole game kicking lumps out of Rodriguez whenever he had the ball so they cannot complain if Neymar was on the receiving end of a bad challenge. If your going to give it then you risk it biting you on the backside.

If they want to blame anyone blame the coward of a referee who couldn't do his job properly, had he booked the players who committed the first bad challenges they would have stopped there and then.

Yes, extremely hypocritical for them to be upset by Neymar being injured. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. They kicked lumps out of Rodríguez throughout the match, so I'm supposed to feel sorry for them when their playmaker gets hurt by a similarly poor challenge? It's luck of the draw who gets hurt.
 
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**** Neymar out!:mad: Plus this is some serious injury:(
(lol at people who ever doubt this is dive,not injury,he was fouled 1000 times
in chile game too,nobody blowed tho,this is sick)


Libertine said:
Yes, extremely hypocritical for them to be upset by Neymar being injured. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. They kicked lumps out of Rodríguez throughout the match, so I'm supposed to feel sorry for them when their playmaker gets hurt by a similarly poor challenge? It's luck of the draw who gets hurt.
But this is very true.
 
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yeah,and james trying to pick him up with broken vertebrae,i know he didnt have a clue:(
Football is really sick in this,fifa should rework probably all system,divers - red cards usually,rough fouls too,make this a better game!
 
ILovecycling said:
yeah,and james trying to pick him up with broken vertebrae,i know he didnt have a clue:(
Football is really sick in this,fifa should rework probably all system,divers - red cards usually,rough fouls too,make this a better game!

The problem is they've gone some way in preventing physicality in order to "protect the stars" (because you know, nobody went to the Camp Nou when Messi was injured...) and to open the game up a bit, and the referee has a balance to maintain between allowing the game to flow and punishing. Too strict a referee and the game is damaged by ridiculous amounts of cards and there is no flow; too lenient a referee and the players feel like they can get away with any level of minor foul they like and the game becomes a mess like last night.

The challenge that broke Neymar's vertebra was no worse that dozens of other challenges in that game, it just happened to catch him right in the wrong place. The Brazilian media can be upset that Neymar's injured, but of the 54 fouls in that game, 31 were by Brazilians so they shouldn't be blaming the Colombians.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
The problem is they've gone some way in preventing physicality in order to "protect the stars" (because you know, nobody went to the Camp Nou when Messi was injured...) and to open the game up a bit, and the referee has a balance to maintain between allowing the game to flow and punishing. Too strict a referee and the game is damaged by ridiculous amounts of cards and there is no flow; too lenient a referee and the players feel like they can get away with any level of minor foul they like and the game becomes a mess like last night.
I think if almost any fouls woudnt be tolerated first half a season with this new rules it would be a mess and terrible football,but after that I believe they (players) would adjust to not be eliminated in the match.We can make this 1970s etc,I think it is possible,but it needs massive changes in fifa headquarters.:eek: (but not only this of course)
 
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It wasnt exactly on the ball,but...
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Libertine said:
The challenge that broke Neymar's vertebra was no worse that dozens of other challenges in that game, it just happened to catch him right in the wrong place. The Brazilian media can be upset that Neymar's injured, but of the 54 fouls in that game, 31 were by Brazilians so they shouldn't be blaming the Colombians
They were standing all night in front of the hospital and prayed,you know thousands of people,I understand they want Zuniga's head,football is everything for them,they are brasilians and this is copa do mundo in their country so...
But as you said its not fair to blame colombians or zuniga (i means really blame),referee wasnt good,brasil doesnt play too kind in terms of fouls in this tournament...it was a bad luck,very bad bad luck on their God.
 
Brazil fouled Colombia a lot but it went both ways. And they were always just trips or nudges.

I don't get this - Brazil deserved Neymar out because they tripped Rodriguez a lot. About half the fouls could easily have been overlooked anyway. And tripping people happens in football. They get up and play on and in Rodriguez case end up being the man of the match anyway and scoring a goal.

The foul on Neymar though was pure assault. That and one about 5 minutes later was totally off the ball ball and clearly with the intent of causing damage.

Happens though. I thought when Brazil went 2 up that they should have taken Neymar off and gone full defense.

End of the road for Brazil I think. Hosts often go out in semis, (Italy 90, S Korea 2002, Germany 2006), and Germany are superior. And this Brazil squad doesn't deserve to win the world cup.
 
It's not that they "deserve" Neymar being injured, nobody deserves to be injured, it's more that it is hypocritical for them to complain about the Colombians fouling their man when their gameplan for the Colombian playmakers was to foul them. The referee played into this by not taking any action for persistent fouls and physicality increased as the match went on as a result to the point where late on especially as frustrations rose among the Colombians and desperation increased among the Brazilian defending, the play went from niggling fouls to more serious ones. The Brazilians are simply unfortunate that on the occasion where the incident led to an injury, it was not only one of their players, but their most important player, who took the hit. It was a poor challenge by Zuñiga, no doubt, but it was in keeping with much of the rest of the game. It wasn't the Battle of Nürnberg or anything, but it deserved more cards than were given.
 
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And who deserves the Cup then,Hitch?
Argentina who scores always in addtional time with terrible luck?Germany,who played bs except of one match?Or Netherlands who were lucky they didnt lose cuz of subpar performance in first 80 minutes vs Mexico match and penalty?Maybe Costa rica?Certainly not belgium with easist group etc in this Cup.

IMO nobody here deserves The World cup.
I agree with you on germany-brasil match.I wouldnt say they germans are superior,not at all,but they might be with Silva and Neymar out.Hell I want to see their offense without him:eek:,and their defending without the other one:eek:
Otoh it can be good for them in terms of fighting spirit 'vamos ganhar por neymar' or how it is written,they will want to win it for their injured star,for player who earned them right to play in semis imo and thats right.

Those players will be god forever in Brasil if they will win home world cup after 12 years of poor performances.The motivation must be super huge,but so is the pressure.
 

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