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ghostofjoy said:shocking? not really, have you been to a LA/OC gym or weight room lately? take a look around, the quantity of middle aged men (and women) lifting absurd weights with sub 5% body fat is enough to make you think that cycling is a haven for monks and choirboys.
mewmewmew13 said:Lol!!
Seriously I do kind of feel sorry for Frank...
ghostofjoy said:shocking? not really, have you been to a LA/OC gym or weight room lately? take a look around, the quantity of middle aged men (and women) lifting absurd weights with sub 5% body fat is enough to make you think that cycling is a haven for monks and choirboys.
You don't understand someone poisoned him with something else and he was taking the diuretic to get rid of itkeeponrollin said:If someone were intending to maliciously contaminate a riders water or feed; why the hell would they choose to do so with a substance which would most probably be purged from their system on the off chance they get tested ?
Dr. Maserati said:Cool, because I am going to set up a Frank Fairness Fund, you can be my first customer.
Reformed said:Bingo! But people across these United States don't see the carnival known as the life on the Coast, a fitness place, a coffee shop, a fitness place, a coffee shop, you can't make it up on the So. Cal coastline.
Dog Day Afternoon?PosterBill said:I think the worst part of modern doping is the denials, it's wretched. Not only will they spew the 500 tests junk but most of them take many steps further then they need to. Andy released a statement saying "On my life and on my family, I'm sure he hasn't taken anything,"...isn't frank Schleck the guy that was tied to payments to a certain spanish scandal? At least kiss me before you ......
How many times ***WITH A STRIAGHT FACE*** has LA said "doping? Why would I beat cancer then inject drugs into my body that might cause cancer?
These guys take it to certain levels that it makes it difficult for me to enjoy the sport
ManInFull said:Wow. I haven't checked any cycling sites since very early this morning due to travel, etc. What a shocker! If the B sample comes back positive, do you think he will accept his punishment or contest the results?
Moose McKnuckles said:Frank will argue that he has been poisoned.
Wow. Absolutely stunning claim.
Boeing said:for sure. the number of masters riders here in the OC using Testosterone because they can afford it is shocking. we have Endocrinologist on every corner here pumping it out for ED and it doesn't even take a script really
better in the sack better in the saddle. allegedly
Cavalier said:Don't think I've ever said this about a doping case before, but something about this one just doesn't seem right. It stinks of either colossal stupidity (in terms of this particular diuretic) or a setup of some sort. Really odd. Almost like a too-good-to-be-true case.
Cavalier said:Let's assume for a second Schleck has been 'poisoned'. Reasons/Suspects:
1) Complaint to UCI about non-payment. Cancellara's gone home, Fuglsang isn't racing the rest of the year. Leaves only Frankie racing. Positive test means team doesn't have to pay him.
2) Repeated disagreements with Bruyneel over the course of the year - Bruyneel being a dopemaster means it's easy for him to arrange it, but can't dispense it himself. So someone else has to be involved.
Method would have to be via food or drink, and to an extent this is where the 'you're responsible for what you put into your body' argument can break down. Frank can't be responsible for the food and drink he consumes, because they're prepared by team staff. Likewise, any poisoning Frank consumes by bottle would have had to have been physically collected from the team car by himself or it would have been easily consumed by another rider when domestique hands out bottles.
Team meal - unless each rider is served his meal individually (I imagine it's buffet style when team-prepared), again this is difficult.
So either a bottle Frank got himself, or the sample was tainted, or the lab is complicit. The last is ludicrous, so he needs to prove either of the first two. A tad difficult, to say the least. He's looking at two years unless he offers up some others.
Cavalier said:Don't think I've ever said this about a doping case before, but something about this one just doesn't seem right. It stinks of either colossal stupidity (in terms of this particular diuretic) or a setup of some sort. Really odd. Almost like a too-good-to-be-true case.