Frank schleck

[Carols]

Question:

Now that Frank's A and B samples are both positive why hasn't he been suspended pending investigation? Or did I miss that news?

 

[trailrunner]

Question:

Now that Frank's A and B samples are both positive why hasn't he been suspended pending investigation? Or did I miss that news?

The substance that was detected doesn't result in an automatic suspension.

Because Xipamide falls into a special category of substances under the World Anti-Doping Code called “specified substances,” Schleck has a chance to prove his innocence.

The code states that if an athlete can establish that the use of a specified substance was not intended to enhance sport performance, a first violation can draw anything from a reprimand to a one-year ban. A second violation would bring a two-year ban, while a third violation would incur a lifetime ban.

 

[webvan]

No change since the A positive, still a "specified product", i.e. a product that is not a doping product in itself (unlike EPO, testosterone, etc...) so there is no automatic suspension, it's up to the cyclist's federation to come up with a suspension after consulting with experts and hearing the cyclist. Their decision can then be appealed by the UCI, WADA or the cyclist and it will then go the CAS.

In effect FS has been "self-suspended" since the 18th when he was DNS at the TDF so that will be deducted from any suspension time he gets.

 

[webvan]

No chance, still a "specified product", i.e. a product that is not a doping product in itself (unlike EPO, testosterone, etc...) so there is no automatic suspension, it's up to the cyclists federation to come up with a suspension after consulting with experts and hearing the cyclist. Their decision can they be appealed by the UCI, WADA or the cyclist and it will then go the CAS.

In effect FS has been "self-suspended" since the 18th when he was DNS at the TDF so that will be deducted from any suspension time he gets.

 

[Pantani_lives]

If Schleck is convicted, can RadioShack keep the team classification? They wouldn't have won it without Schleck.

 

[screaming fist]

They wouldn't have won it without Schleck.

Not true. They only lose about three minutes if you eliminate Schleck from the results.

 

[sashimono]

Suspicious man in crowd at TDF Stage 13:

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

There's a lot of **** at RS, couldn't that be the thing. They wouldn't just frame their riders who want to get payed hey...

Big Cancellara popped out just in time I think.

 

[PedalPusher]

Suspicious man in crowd at TDF Stage 13:

Now that's funny!

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

This could well be the way it goes for the next five years or so.

Not banned for a PED, but banned for traces of masking that got reintroduced.

Hopefully WADA can keep getting more refined and particular.

 

[Christian]

Luxembourg Anti Doping Agency (ALAD) has forwarded the dossier to their disciplinary council. The article also makes it sound like ALAD "assumes that Fränk Schleck violated the doping rules"

http://www.wort.lu/de/view/affaere-...iplinarausschuss-ein-5021146fe4b077a166187081

 

[babastooey]

WADA's Luxembourg branch should obviously pursue a lifetime ban on Schleck for this. He didn't merely ingest a teaspoon of clenbuterol, which causes a rider to win a 3 week bike race by 39 seconds. In that case, an obvious dimwit ingested something he shouldn't have and received the requisite stripping of titles and 6 month slap on the wrist.

No, testing for a masking agent implies that there was more sinister things going on. Who knows what sort of drugs were in his system? And consider that he has had a relationship with the king of doping, Bruyneel, who has a list of violations SO profound and disgusting that decorum prohibits listing them here.

Frank's only escape is if he testifies and provides evidence against his past and present teammates and directors. Frank should have plenty to talk about, considering that his associates, past and present, include guys like Riis and Basso. Cooperation will result in a more lenient punishment, for example, one year, plus, Frank will get to keep all of his minor titles and accomplishments, say, the Luxembourg road and time trial championships.

If Frank grows a pair and testifies against Andy, resulting in Denis Menchov becoming the 2010 Tour de France winner, then no punishment.

Anyone who doesn't agree with this point of view is obviously not serious about cleaning up doping in sports. The current investigation style is like David Millar after he was caught, or like Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull. Wimpy and Indiana Jones doesn't murder anyone. We need to make it more like David Millar before he was caught, and more like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Twenty one murders by Indy in that one!

 

[Fidolix]

ALAD (The Luxembourg anti doping agency) will process Frank Schlecks doping case, no date is given atm.

Any predictions about the outcome?

I would imagine we get a new Contador case, acquittal by ALAD, UCI appeal to CAS and a new circus in court, another 2 years, the clearance from ALAD will most likely be quick, and Frank can ride his bike next 1.5 - 2 years, and getting payed with a new contract together with his bro. maybe...

 

[DirtyWorks]

... He didn't merely ingest a teaspoon of clenbuterol

In spirit, that is exactly what he did. Clenbuterol does not appear naturally in the body. The guy lives in the EU where there are probably the best health and safety standards for the entire livestock supply chain. He ingested Clen intentionally. Contador's excuses were ridiculous and CAS didn't help by manufacturing another excuse entirely.

Give Contador more credit. The guy is a champion in a dirty system and would likely be in a clean system.

Anyone who doesn't agree with this point of view is obviously not serious about cleaning up doping in sports.

The UCI is not serious about cleaning up the sport and hasn't been for decades beyond even Hein's reign. The only master the UCI serves is the IOC and they are very doping friendly. Lots of room for dopers, as long as you make the UCI, Pat, and Hein money.

 

[DirtyWorks]

ALAD (The Luxembourg anti doping agency) will process Frank Schlecks doping case, no date is given atm.

Any predictions about the outcome?

I would imagine we get a new Contador case, acquittal by ALAD, UCI appeal to CAS and a new circus in court, another 2 years, the clearance from ALAD will most likely be quick, and Frank can ride his bike next 1.5 - 2 years, and getting payed with a new contract together with his bro. maybe...

The Schlecks make money for the UCI and probably Pat and Hein on the side. He'll be back.

 

[Adamastor]

ALAD interviewed Schleck

http://www.wort.lu/de/view/dopingfa...-wieder-am-8-oktober-503f7b29e4b0ca14dcff18cf

29th August, in presence of his lawyer. Will be seen again on 8th October.

 

[webvan]

6 weeks from the positive, 5 weeks for the next step, can't it go any faster ?!

 

[BYOP88]

Well it wouldn't seem 'right' if they cleared him straight away, would it.

 

[ansimi]

6 weeks from the positive, 5 weeks for the next step, can't it go any faster ?!

The 6 weeks from the positive to some sort of meeting or hearing seems very fast to me. 5 weeks from that seems reasonable if they're actually coming to a decision but I'm not clear about that.

They probably have pre-set meeting times. You know, to accommodate the long distances that Luxembourgers need to travel to get together?

It seems like we haven't had much in the way of leaks or even spin on this one. Hopefully that's because everybody's being professional?

 

[hrotha]

What's weird about the timeline of this case is that it only took a few days for his samples to be tested and reported as positive.

 

[atlazz]

Sorry, mispost

 

[Benotti69]

I imagine they are holding out to see what happens with UCI and are hoping to bury it in the fallout that occurs.

 

[ToreBear]

What's weird about the timeline of this case is that it only took a few days for his samples to be tested and reported as positive.

He wasn't protected, and WADA was displeased with UCI dragging their feet in Contador case. So the UCI have to show what a god job they can do.

When they want to that is.

 

[Benotti69]

What's weird about the timeline of this case is that it only took a few days for his samples to be tested and reported as positive.

That's becasue Becca couldn't make the payment

 

[Christian]

First hearing was today.

Maxime Monfort, accompanied by two of his lawyers, made a witness statement. He had shared a room with Schleck during the Tour de France. Schleck had asked him to make a statement about what happened before the doping control.

http://sport.rtl.lu/cyclissem/news/329751.html