Frank schleck

[yourwelcome]

"...and if the B-sample is positive too, I will claim I was poisoned".

That's comedy gold.

I can feel some sympathy for Frank though, having to create stories while the elephants in the room rampage through the Pyrenees unhindered.

 

[therealtimshady]

"...and if the B-sample is positive too, I will claim I was poisoned".

That's comedy gold.

I can feel some sympathy for Frank though, having to create stories while the elephants in the room rampage through the Pyrenees unhindered.

It's probably been said already but if Frank gets off bertie should get his lawyers ready

 

[pedaling squares]

What a shame. Another high profile rider caught. No matter what the details are its cycling plc that takes the hit. Just when it seemed to be getting its act together.

Haha. Good one, Miss Cound.

 

[sittingbison]

It's probably been said already but if Frank gets off bertie should get his lawyers ready

It has been said. AC used the excuse of contaminated meat, which was conclusively denied after an exhaustive investigation culminating with the actual farmer of the cow revealed there was no clenbuterol in the food chain of events.

His team never even dreamed of using the "I was poisoned" or "contaminated supplement" defense - that was only used by the idiots at CAS after they refused to listen to Ashendon explain what most likely occurred (blood doping), and had no other explanation.

Bertie should sack his lawyers

 

[Square-pedaller]

I think you have a fascinating thought process here but it begs the question - if he was set up, wouldn't it be more likely that he'd be hit with a "harder" drug that easily gets the full 2 year suspension, something well known and notorious like HGH, EPO, or T?

HGH and EPO are both injected. It also seems that T is not so readily available for oral administartion. My guess is that this diuretic is taken orally, which would make it easy enough to spike his food or drink. It doesn't look to me that RSNT are team doping - I think with everything that's going on, several teams are worried that there are too many people looking at them to risk anything this year.

 

[therealtimshady]

It has been said. AC used the excuse of contaminated meat, which was conclusively denied after an exhaustive investigation culminating with the actual farmer of the cow revealed there was no clenbuterol in the food chain of events.

His team never even dreamed of using the "I was poisoned" or "contaminated supplement" defense - that was only used by the idiots at CAS after they refused to listen to Ashendon explain what most likely occurred (blood doping), and had no other explanation.

Bertie should sack his lawyers

I agree - his lawyers didn't do a good job, however if Frank gets off for contamination I would go mental if I was bertie and demand my tour and giro back

 

[joe_papp]

I think you have a fascinating thought process here but it begs the question - if he was set up, wouldn't it be more likely that he'd be hit with a "harder" drug that easily gets the full 2 year suspension, something well known and notorious like HGH, EPO, or T?

You administer all three via injection typically, making it much harder to "poison" a target (we'll use Frank's word to show solidarity . But yes there are oral steroids (andriol is the popular one in biking). Hmm...

HGH and EPO are both injected. It also seems that T is not so readily available for oral administartion. My guess is that this diuretic is taken orally, which would make it easy enough to spike his food or drink. It doesn't look to me that RSNT are team doping - I think with everything that's going on, several teams are worried that there are too many people looking at them to risk anything this year.

oops, sorry - i didn't see that you'd responded already.

 

[joe_papp]

"...and if the B-sample is positive too, I will claim I was poisoned".

That's comedy gold.

I can feel some sympathy for Frank though, having to create stories while the elephants in the room rampage through the Pyrenees unhindered.

oh c'mon you're breaking his balls over nothing when you know what he meant. If the B-sample comes back negative he doesn't have to say anything else so don't expect much comment b/c he'll just be happy to not have been found doping. But if the B-sample confirms the A, then he will consider the attempt at poisoning to have been successful and will mount his defense accordingly (whereas the poisoning attempt would've been unsuccessful - and thus him not poisoned - in the first scenario). lol

 

[Square-pedaller]

"...and if the B-sample is positive too, I will claim I was poisoned".

That's comedy gold.

I can feel some sympathy for Frank though, having to create stories while the elephants in the room rampage through the Pyrenees unhindered.

I agree with Joe that he's just saying that if the B sample is negative, there's no need for im to explain the positive A sample.

I also think people are over-reacting to the word 'poisoned'. It sounds very dramatic in English, but I suspect that it's a mistranslation of a word that means doctored or doped but sounds close to poisoned in one of the other languages that Frank speaks.

 

[TubularBills]

I agree with Joe that he's just saying that if the B sample is negative, there's no need for im to explain the positive A sample.

I also think people are over-reacting to the word 'poisoned'. It sounds very dramatic in English, but I suspect that it's a mistranslation of a word that means doctored or doped but sounds close to poisoned in one of the other languages that Frank speaks.

Excellent point.

Too often we forget we live in a truly Global World.

& we all have tendency to believe what we want to believe.

http://blog.chron.com/lorensteffy/files/legacy/harvard%20study.pdf

Read.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I agree realtimshady

 

[Paco_P]

Maybe one of the fans on the side of the road 'poisoned' him?

More likely some Contador fanboy slipped him a contaminated steak.

 

[AcademyCC]

+1

I am glad somebody else is thinking along these lines. With all the bad luck with injuries/sickness/doping charges etc other teams are having at the moment, everything seems to be falling into place for Sky at the tour and Olympics.

That is truly remarkable thinking lol. My car wouldn't start straight away this morning. Im nearly certain I saw wiggo fiddling with my engine last night. Wise up!!!!

 

[Chris85]

At least it wasn't Andy who tested positive.

 

[Stelvioclimber]

If Schleck was taking this stuff to clean out why not use a diuretic not on the banned list?

 

[Franklin]

If Schleck was taking this stuff to clean out why not use a diuretic not on the banned list?

All diuretics are by extension on the list.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

I agree with Joe that he's just saying that if the B sample is negative, there's no need for im to explain the positive A sample.

I also think people are over-reacting to the word 'poisoned'. It sounds very dramatic in English, but I suspect that it's a mistranslation of a word that means doctored or doped but sounds close to poisoned in one of the other languages that Frank speaks.

Of course, but if his B sample is positive the "my drink was spiked" defense won't do him any favors. It's laughable at best.

 

[Stelvioclimber]

All diuretics are by extension on the list.

Pamabrom is on the list of allowed drugs so why not use that, or is the effect so week in comparison to what's been found?

 

[Franklin]

Of course, but if his B sample is positive the "my drink was spiked" defense won't do him any favors. It's laughable at best.

I'm not sure that is his line. If I have food poisoning it doesn't mean someone deliberately poisoned me.

If he took a contaminated supplement he could call it "poisoning", it certainly would be an accepted termology.

 

[sniper]

the broader definition of "poisoned" includes "contaminated foodsupplement", I assume

 

[Franklin]

Pamabrom is on the list of allowed drugs so why not use that, or is the effect so week in comparison to what's been found?

It's back to the "WHY????" position. It sure is weird to take this drug knowingly, but it's anyones guess really.

 

[Savant12]

I just don't get why Frank Schleck would use a banned substance now.

He has no chance for a podium spot and the team competition isn't worth doping over.

Sure, he was strongly suspicious during the Fuentes doping era but just look at all the big names who were doping and how many cyclists actually rode clean during that time. Not condoning him just saying how the sport was at that time.

So, Frank was indeed "poisoned" or just incredibly stupid. If the latter, then I hope he will rightly punished for it even if I am a bit of a Schlecks fan.

 

[Cavalier]

I always had my suspicion of the Schlecks to be honest.

It never ceases to amaze me how many of these come out after (and only after) a positive test.

 

[neineinei]

Apart from Li Fuyu, who was caught for clenbuterol in 2010 when he was a part of Team RadioShack, and now Fränks positive A-sample, has there been any other positive doping tests in Bruyneel lead teams? (Excluding Armstrongs possible coverups.)

 

[Red Rick]

I don't know the source, but 100 picograms it is! Ban him for four years, take a way four GT titles. Let's see how Schleck does the zero zero zero thing (null null null)