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Froome losing a race, getting any sort of a ban, ducks up the entire narrative for them. There would now be a big red flag where Walsh and co swore there are NO red flags and mocked "interent losers," who would suggest there might be.
Put on top of the jiffy bag, it makes sky stink even more, hell this is bigger than the jiffy bag.
Remember the "you can't compare Froome to lance because there were reasons to believe lance doped and There are none for Froome" arguments. Say goodbye to those to.
Essentially the entire sky narrative has to take a massive retreat. The whole pontificating over other riders doping, talking about giving the benefit of the doubt, saying sky do things the right way, all gone. The arguments for Froome having been clean would fall apart of he gets a ban. It would now become a 100% a last stand - beat us in the courts or nothing argument.
Brullnux said:
Froome losing a race, getting any sort of a ban, ducks up the entire narrative for them. There would now be a big red flag where Walsh and co swore there are NO red flags and mocked "interent losers," who would suggest there might be.
Put on top of the jiffy bag, it makes sky stink even more, hell this is bigger than the jiffy bag.
Remember the "you can't compare Froome to lance because there were reasons to believe lance doped and There are none for Froome" arguments. Say goodbye to those to.
Essentially the entire sky narrative has to take a massive retreat. The whole pontificating over other riders doping, talking about giving the benefit of the doubt, saying sky do things the right way, all gone. The arguments for Froome having been clean would fall apart of he gets a ban. It would now become a 100% a last stand - beat us in the courts or nothing argument.
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Hopefully they burn him to the stake. Petacchi got banned for a year and he had less of it in his urine.
Get rid of the cancer of this sport please.
Nibali the winner of the Vuelta and Vélo d'Or?
Get rid of the cancer of this sport please.
Nibali the winner of the Vuelta and Vélo d'Or?
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Oh man I'd like to see all the Sky fans now.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Oh man I'd like to see all the Sky fans now.
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Didn’t Piepoli also get busted for similar amounts to Petacchi but got absolutely no ban whatsoever? Seems they make up the bans as they go along but we knew that anyway.
El Pistolero said:
Didn’t Piepoli also get busted for similar amounts to Petacchi but got absolutely no ban whatsoever? Seems they make up the bans as they go along but we knew that anyway.
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
‘All the sky fans’??
I’ve gone on record and said I don’t think you can win (or be close to winning) a GT being clean. That includes every rider.
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MartinGT said:
I understand you are cynical. Hey we all are. But even with the cynicism, there is a bright light here.
If we are talking in terms of sanctions, maybe nothing happens, to the poster child.
But if we are talking in terms of reputation, there is nothing more to distinguish Froome now from early 2000s lance.
The holier than thou rep must fall to pieces.
This is already way more than many of us in the clinic ever hoped of getting. They can win this behind the scenes - maybe maybe not. They can even monitor Wikipedia dor247 for eternity to make sure no bad loser ever edits it in there. But how are they going to take away a test result from his history or take away the articles from the webz?
At the very least, we are much better off today than we were 3 hours ago. Do we get more? We will see
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Woah. Most asthmatics I know take 2, sometimes 3 max. I could see an athlete taking more, but 32???
Nicosix said:
Woah. Most asthmatics I know take 2, sometimes 3 max. I could see an athlete taking more, but 32???
The Hitch said:
Nobody has edited it yet. Last update 11 December.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Froome
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Strip him of the Vuelta. His levels were above the limit. I hope UCI does make an example.
What I don't understand is: why claim to do Giro Tour double while knowing he might be facing a potential ban?
What I don't understand is: why claim to do Giro Tour double while knowing he might be facing a potential ban?
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I guess...MartinGT said:
*) WADA’s Prohibited List provides that: “The presence in urine of salbutamol in excess of 1000 ng/mL or formoterol in excess of 40 ng/mL is presumed not to be an intended therapeutic use of the substance and will be considered as an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF) unless the Athlete proves, through a controlled pharmacokinetic study, that the abnormal result was the consequence of the use of the therapeutic dose (by inhalation) up to the maximum dose indicated above.”
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"WADA’s Prohibited List provides that: “The presence in urine of salbutamol in excess of 1000 ng/mL or formoterol in excess of 40 ng/mL is presumed not to be an intended therapeutic use of the substance and will be considered as an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF) unless the Athlete proves, through a controlled pharmacokinetic study, that the abnormal result was the consequence of the use of the therapeutic dose (by inhalation) up to the maximum dose indicated above.”
So the burden of proof now lies with Froome. Of course he/Sky will come up with all kinds of theories to try and explain these results, but proving these theories for something that occured several months ago now will be nigh on impossible.
About as likely as it was that Contador would ever have been able to prove that steak was responsible for the Clenbuterol in his system.
Will be very interesting to see how this plays out now, either way it will tell us an awful lot about the system
So the burden of proof now lies with Froome. Of course he/Sky will come up with all kinds of theories to try and explain these results, but proving these theories for something that occured several months ago now will be nigh on impossible.
About as likely as it was that Contador would ever have been able to prove that steak was responsible for the Clenbuterol in his system.
Will be very interesting to see how this plays out now, either way it will tell us an awful lot about the system
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