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brownbobby said:That day will be when we will found that FROOME used a MOTOR on ventoux , but in the mind of people with a little bit of intelligence that is a certain thing
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Irondan said:Everyone laughing at Chris Froome, Sky, Dave Brailsford and all the other hypocrites out there that no doubt deserve this fate seem to be missing the bigger picture in that this is AWFUL for pro cycling! A four time Tour De France champion has just been given back an AAF and people are laughing about it like it's funny or good for cycling when it's not funny at all, although it does feel good to be proven right it's not a laughing matter if you're a fan of pro cycling. I suppose the snipers of the world are having a good time with this but personally, I think this is just another black mark on a sport that has too many black marks to it's credit.
I love pro cycling and feel like I've been punched in the gut even though I'm not at all a Chris Froome or Team Sky fan.
Someday, all these doping scandals are going to catch up to the sport, is this the day?
Singer01 said:How many GT's do the Contador fans now think Froome has won?
pastronef said:Climbing said:If they get away with this, I'm truly done with "pro" cycling.
Hopefully Sky will crumble.
remind me how many positive tests Astana had between pro team and U23 in the last ten years?
they got away with that
Seems 5 on paper and 5 on the road so far. What happened on the road won't change, but what happened on paper may yet change.Singer01 said:How many GT's do the Contador fans now think Froome has won?
pastronef said:Irondan said:Everyone laughing at Chris Froome, Sky, Dave Brailsford and all the other hypocrites out there that no doubt deserve this fate seem to be missing the bigger picture in that this is AWFUL for pro cycling! A four time Tour De France champion has just been given back an AAF and people are laughing about it like it's funny or good for cycling when it's not funny at all, although it does feel good to be proven right it's not a laughing matter if you're a fan of pro cycling. I suppose the snipers of the world are having a good time with this but personally, I think this is just another black mark on a sport that has too many black marks to it's credit.
I love pro cycling and feel like I've been punched in the gut even though I'm not at all a Chris Froome or Team Sky fan.
Someday, all these doping scandals are going to catch up to the sport, is this the day?
havent you heard?
that is a great day for cycling
even the people and members, the wiser ones, are fans and have their bad riders to cheer against. doping is not considered a problem very much.
when Sky and the Brits will crash dow, cycling will go back to its status quo, with the main traditional nations winning, as it has to be. finally freed and hallelujah, Italian French Colombians Spanish will again be strong and win GT for the joy of us all
do they dope? yes, who cares, we want the show
I knew it was a matter of time, I just wasn't prepared for it right now just as you said, I thought it would be after he retired when someone would spill the beans. It's not that I didn't think it would happen, I just think that people being happy about the biggest rider in the sport getting popped need to realize that the repercussions could very well be catastrophic to the sport for years and years. Pro cycling may look a lot different by this time next year and we might not like what we see. The unintended consequences of Chris Froome's AAF will be far-reaching.Angliru said:Irondan said:Everyone laughing at Chris Froome, Sky, Dave Brailsford and all the other hypocrites out there that no doubt deserve this fate seem to be missing the bigger picture in that this is AWFUL for pro cycling! A four time Tour De France champion has just been given back an AAF and people are laughing about it like it's funny or good for cycling when it's not funny at all, although it does feel good to be proven right it's not a laughing matter if you're a fan of pro cycling. I suppose the snipers of the world are having a good time with this but personally, I think this is just another black mark on a sport that has too many black marks to it's credit.
I love pro cycling and feel like I've been punched in the gut even though I'm not at all a Chris Froome or Team Sky fan.
Someday, all these doping scandals are going to catch up to the sport, is this the day?
It was just a matter of time and you had to know it Irondan. I knew it was inevitable, I just didn't expect it to happen this soon. I anticipated maybe a couple of years after he retired that someone(s) would step up with proof. i can't say that I'm disappointed as I was prepared for it. Of course it's not good for the sport but until the sport actually polices itself first of all, then this will be like a scratched record playing the same melody over and over. Joining the MPCC should be mandatory and this and other revealed details about Sky's "marginal gains" strategy, explains why they refused to join in spite of claiming to be saviour of a clean sport.
But the thing is, you already *knew* Froome had bent and broken the rules, you just didn't know how. As I showed, he had a >10% permanent increase in FTP in a short span during the 2011 season. The numbers were highly statistically significant and had few plausible, let alone credible, explanations.Irondan said:Everyone laughing at Chris Froome, Sky, Dave Brailsford and all the other hypocrites out there that no doubt deserve this fate seem to be missing the bigger picture in that this is AWFUL for pro cycling! A four time Tour De France champion has just been given back an AAF and people are laughing about it like it's funny or good for cycling when it's not funny at all, although it does feel good to be proven right it's not a laughing matter if you're a fan of pro cycling. I suppose the snipers of the world are having a good time with this but personally, I think this is just another black mark on a sport that has too many black marks to it's credit.
I love pro cycling and feel like I've been punched in the gut even though I'm not at all a Chris Froome or Team Sky fan.
Someday, all these doping scandals are going to catch up to the sport, is this the day?
How could you not know?ScienceIsCool said:But the thing is, you already *knew* Froome had bent and broken the rules, you just didn't know how. As I showed, he had a >10% permanent increase in FTP in a short span during the 2011 season. The numbers were highly statistically significant and had few plausible, let alone credible, explanations.Irondan said:Everyone laughing at Chris Froome, Sky, Dave Brailsford and all the other hypocrites out there that no doubt deserve this fate seem to be missing the bigger picture in that this is AWFUL for pro cycling! A four time Tour De France champion has just been given back an AAF and people are laughing about it like it's funny or good for cycling when it's not funny at all, although it does feel good to be proven right it's not a laughing matter if you're a fan of pro cycling. I suppose the snipers of the world are having a good time with this but personally, I think this is just another black mark on a sport that has too many black marks to it's credit.
I love pro cycling and feel like I've been punched in the gut even though I'm not at all a Chris Froome or Team Sky fan.
Someday, all these doping scandals are going to catch up to the sport, is this the day?
John Swanson
But unlike Lance it will not be at Oprah but rather on The Grand Tour with Jeremy Clarkson.Pantani Attacks said:Yeah the motor truth will have to come from Froome himself ala Lance tell all.
Angliru said:Irondan said:Everyone laughing at Chris Froome, Sky, Dave Brailsford and all the other hypocrites out there that no doubt deserve this fate seem to be missing the bigger picture in that this is AWFUL for pro cycling! A four time Tour De France champion has just been given back an AAF and people are laughing about it like it's funny or good for cycling when it's not funny at all, although it does feel good to be proven right it's not a laughing matter if you're a fan of pro cycling. I suppose the snipers of the world are having a good time with this but personally, I think this is just another black mark on a sport that has too many black marks to it's credit.
I love pro cycling and feel like I've been punched in the gut even though I'm not at all a Chris Froome or Team Sky fan.
Someday, all these doping scandals are going to catch up to the sport, is this the day?
It was just a matter of time and you had to know it Irondan. I knew it was inevitable, I just didn't expect it to happen this soon. I anticipated maybe a couple of years after he retired that someone(s) would step up with proof. i can't say that I'm disappointed as I was prepared for it. Of course it's not good for the sport but until the sport actually polices itself first of all, then this will be like a scratched record playing the same melody over and over. Joining the MPCC should be mandatory and this and other revealed details about Sky's "marginal gains" strategy, explains why they refused to join in spite of claiming to be saviour of a clean sport.
ScienceIsCool said:But the thing is, you already *knew* Froome had bent and broken the rules, you just didn't know how. As I showed, he had a >10% permanent increase in FTP in a short span during the 2011 season. The numbers were highly statistically significant and had few plausible, let alone credible, explanations.
John Swanson
Its OK if they ride, but they shouldn't be able to use performance enhancers like they are allowed to now.Frankschleck said:Wow i am shocked. He should of course at least get a year and the vuelta taken away from him. I don't believe people with astma should be riding pro cycling.
Rollthedice said:But unlike Lance it will not be at Oprah but rather on The Grand Tour with Jeremy Clarkson.Pantani Attacks said:Yeah the motor truth will have to come from Froome himself ala Lance tell all.
:lol: :lol: Your grapes to watermelons comparison! Driving your car to the spa isn't the same as competing in athletic events.GenericBoonenFan said:old man peanut said:Geraint on athletes with asthma
http://road.cc/content/news/214380-interview-geraint-thomas-tues-disc-brakes-shane-sutton-and-more
Saying people with asthma shouldn't be doing competitive sport is like saying people with glasses shouldn't be allowed to drive a car since they're slightly hampered by a condition they can't control. Although I myself never seeked measurements like Froome when doing competitive sports.
Look at wellens, he has a heat allergy and therefore decided to not ride in the hottest conditions (tdf).