Alpe73 said:
But Michelle has put herself in the firing line, yes
Years of wading in on social media
And not forgetting Exhibit A the infamous Kimmage interview with the Dawg which Michelle insisted on joining as an active participant...
https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/paul-kimmage-chris-froome-in-the-eye-of-the-storm-part-2-30394950.html
PK: So up until that point (the 2011 Tour of Spain) Sky would have seen you as a domestique?
MC: They knew you had an engine. [ :lol: ]
CF: I have always been aware of the weight issue, but I had always taken it for granted that when I pushed my weight I could get it to about 69 (kg) and that was a good place to be. I don’t think I necessarily thought that I could go much lower than that, and apparently I have. I’ve gone a good three kilos lower which is huge.
MC: He starved himself before the Vuelta, and then he came back to South Africa and that’s when we started dating. I’ve always had a bit of an interest in sports nutrition and my view was that he could still train on more protein and cutting back on the carbs at certain times. And also making sure he wasn’t hungry, so having more meals, more often, things like that.
CF: But smaller portions. Basically, I think I lost the weight for that 2011 Vuelta in an unhealthy way; I was starving myself trying to get the weight off and I don’t think that’s healthy or sustainable. But since I’ve been with Michelle I’ve learned to do things in a . . .
MC: It also keeps your weight more stable throughout the year, so you’re not starving yourself, and then after a Tour you want to eat everything.
MC: The first time I heard about Aicar was when someone tweeted about it during the 2012 Tour. I told Chris about it [ :lol: ]
PK: What about Leinders? I want to remind you (of your description) of ‘Omerta’ in the book: ’No matter what you have seen or what you have heard, you say nothing. If a doping story breaks, you are always surprised. You never heard anything, you never saw anything and nobody ever spoke about it.’ The one thing I find absolutely astonishing about Leinders and his association with the team is that nobody ever worked with him. He spent two *** years with the team and nobody had any dealings with him!
CF: (Laughs) I don’t know what you want to call dealings. Each rider is assigned a doctor on the team and you go to that doctor for your day-to-day problems. I wasn’t assigned Geert Leinders put it that way.
MC: You were with Usher then? Weren’t you?
CF: Ehhhh.
MC: Because when I was looking up the Bilharzia things, you emailed Usher and asked him about somewhere you could get your Bilharzia tested around this area, so . . .
CF: When I’d be on a race with Geert Leinders; I think I did Romandie with him.
MC: And you did the [2011] Vuelta with [Leinders], you went to see him with your skin condition. [ :lol: ]
PK: Richard Freeman (a Team Sky doctor) told David Walsh that your performances had tripped an alarm in his head. He looked at your (blood) profiles and there was no inconsistency. But if you’ve had a parasite attacking your red cells, surely there should be (some inconsistency). Surely that should show up?
CF: I would imagine so. I don’t know what the blood passport looks like. I’ve never looked into it.
MC: I think if there were issues at all, the UCI would have raised it. They’re not going to take it for granted that it was in the media that Chris has had Bilharzia.
CF: Logic says your red blood cells would be lower because your haematocrit is being eaten by those parasites. I’d imagine if there were any changes to my normal (profile) it would probably still be within the parameters so . . .
MC: You definitely weren’t in the advanced stages of Bilharzia.
CF: I was pretty full on.
MC: But you weren’t in the advanced stages, so it wasn’t necessarily going to be eating that much of (the red cells). But it was definitely affecting your performance. [ :lol: ]
PK: What about your ethics? You use the word ‘betrayal’ about Basso and I’m thinking ‘That’s exactly what I want to hear.’ But then I see you at Vinokourov’s retirement party and being photographed with him. So what happens to betrayal?
CF: Yeah, I mean going to Vinokourov’s thing . . . this guy is a big icon in cycling. He has a retirement party here (Monaco),and there’s going to be a lot of influential cycling people here . . .
PK: He’s a *** cheat.
CF: (Laughs) You said that.
MC: I don’t think Chris fully understood that (Vinokourov) had doped.
CF: No, I knew.
MC: Not fully. [ :lol: ]
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Thanks but I'm good here...quite content in this regard
Blanco said:brownbobby:
Sounds like an awesome wife to me
Good luck with women then...
Thanks but I'm good here...quite content in this regard
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pastronef said:
Sport's people are these days more than that...marketing themselves is as much part of some's package than others e.g. through social media and traditional media. Michelle is very 'active in CF's career, (career in the wider sense of the word and not just what he does on the road).
Bearing this in mind the comment I made seems entirely appropriate.
As per the the above interview......they come as a package
As an aside, it was Walsh and Froome (who knows, maybe even michelle
) who introduced us to the rabbit stealing young Froome...that it may have backfired is hardly the fault of anyone who thinks it's rather strange behaviour.....
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Again, do you realize his wife is running his WHOLE CAREER? To me it looks like you don't.
She interfered numerous times. She blocks people left and right on his twitter account, she argues with people all the time on this same HIS account, she explains stuff about his husband, stuff he should talk about, not her, and you have a problem when someone points that she literally runs his career.
And on top of that, you don't have a problem about that fact, you want to create some situation here, as like someone talks bad about Froome's wife, kid, pets, dad...! No one does!
It was simply stated that his wife runs his career, which is very probably true. She was seeking for attention and she got it!
And why are you turning this into which hunt is beyond me
She interfered numerous times. She blocks people left and right on his twitter account, she argues with people all the time on this same HIS account, she explains stuff about his husband, stuff he should talk about, not her, and you have a problem when someone points that she literally runs his career.
And on top of that, you don't have a problem about that fact, you want to create some situation here, as like someone talks bad about Froome's wife, kid, pets, dad...! No one does!
It was simply stated that his wife runs his career, which is very probably true. She was seeking for attention and she got it!
And why are you turning this into which hunt is beyond me
MC: I don’t think Chris fully understood that (Vinokourov) had doped.
CF: No, I knew.
MC: Not fully. [ :lol: ]
CF: No, I knew.
MC: Not fully. [ :lol: ]
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brownbobby said:LaFlorecita said:
You're right, she's not just a normal athletes wife...all that stuff she allegedly does....Sounds like an awesome wife to me
Seems like Froome is quite happy with his choice of wife and mother of his child too....guess that's just as important as what we think of her...
Naah, despite of having a wife who made him a multiple millionaire and gave birth to his son he can't be happy knowing there's not too much love against her/him (and their stupid kid*) in the Clinic :lol:
*according to a poster of this forum
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Firstly, I was engaging in the banter....then you asked me directly what my problem was. So I obligingly told you, wouldn't have bought the rest up otherwise.
To the bolded bit...you need to read back through this forum if you believe that...I've only been here a few months and I've seen plenty of it.
So she runs his whole career? So what...it seems to be an arrangement they're mutually happy with.
You miss my point that I really don't care what she does, the personal relationships and arrangements between CF and MF are outside my zone of interest. I did clarify that was my opinion and its up to you if its something that you want to feel strongly about.
And a final confession, fwiw, I would do almost everything within my power to defend and improve the prospects for my closest family. Absolutely no doubt that I would lie, cheat and fight like an alleycat if I thought it would protect them from harm.
I guess that makes me as bad as Michelle
Blanco said:Again, do you realize his wife is running his WHOLE CAREER? To me it looks like you don't.
She interfered numerous times. She blocks people left and right on his twitter account, she argues with people all the time on this same HIS account, she explains stuff about his husband, stuff he should talk about, not her, and you have a problem when someone points that she literally runs his career.
And on top of that, you don't have a problem about that fact, you want to create some situation here, as like someone talks bad about Froome's wife, kid, pets, dad...! No one does!
It was simply stated that his wife runs his career, which is very probably true. She was seeking for attention and she got it!
And why are you turning this into which hunt is beyond me
Firstly, I was engaging in the banter....then you asked me directly what my problem was. So I obligingly told you, wouldn't have bought the rest up otherwise.
To the bolded bit...you need to read back through this forum if you believe that...I've only been here a few months and I've seen plenty of it.
So she runs his whole career? So what...it seems to be an arrangement they're mutually happy with.
You miss my point that I really don't care what she does, the personal relationships and arrangements between CF and MF are outside my zone of interest. I did clarify that was my opinion and its up to you if its something that you want to feel strongly about.
And a final confession, fwiw, I would do almost everything within my power to defend and improve the prospects for my closest family. Absolutely no doubt that I would lie, cheat and fight like an alleycat if I thought it would protect them from harm.
I guess that makes me as bad as Michelle
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brownbobby said:Blanco said:brownbobby said:
If you did, what's the problem then?
If you didn't, well next time you do!
I'll tell you what the problem is, purely on a personal level, you can think how you want to think for yourself...
Chris Froome is a cyclist, balance of probability says he's doping. He'll join a long list of others in this regard. He gets more stick because he's good at it. That's fine. All fair game....
Light hearted banter is one thing, I'm happy to join in with that....but then it escalates. For some there's a rabid desperation to prove that C.F. and everyone associated with him is the devil incarnate....His wife is evil, his 2 year old kid is stupid, the pets he kept as a adolescent in Africa and the way he fed them evil. Relationship with the Father who left him and his Mum to fend for themselves. Evil.
We know **** all about sports people and their families except what a carefully crafted PR machine wants us to know. Unless you really do know him personally?
So, CF the cyclist. Fair game. A bit of banter about him being under the thumb. I'm in. Beyond that...I'm out.
If that makes me a Froome apologist...I'm cool with that too. Could say I'm even proud of it.
completely agree
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Firstly, you were complaining about involving Froome's wife into conversation.
I told you why.
Than you brought all the which hunt stuff.
I told you that is not the case here, at least with me.
And now you asks so what if she runs his whole career? I don't mind, I only pointed to the fact that the reason why she's mentioned is precisely that.
brownbobby said:Blanco said:Again, do you realize his wife is running his WHOLE CAREER? To me it looks like you don't.
She interfered numerous times. She blocks people left and right on his twitter account, she argues with people all the time on this same HIS account, she explains stuff about his husband, stuff he should talk about, not her, and you have a problem when someone points that she literally runs his career.
And on top of that, you don't have a problem about that fact, you want to create some situation here, as like someone talks bad about Froome's wife, kid, pets, dad...! No one does!
It was simply stated that his wife runs his career, which is very probably true. She was seeking for attention and she got it!
And why are you turning this into which hunt is beyond me
Firstly, I was engaging in the banter....then you asked me directly what my problem was. So I obligingly told you, wouldn't have bought the rest up otherwise.
To the bolded bit...you need to read back through this forum if you believe that...I've only been here a few months and I've seen plenty of it.
So she runs his whole career? So what...it seems to be an arrangement they're mutually happy with.
You miss my point that I really don't care what she does, the personal relationships and arrangements between CF and MF are outside my zone of interest. I did clarify that was my opinion and its up to you if its something that you want to feel strongly about.
And a final confession, fwiw, I would do almost everything within my power to defend and improve the prospects for my closest family. Absolutely no doubt that I would lie, cheat and fight like an alleycat if I thought it would protect them from harm.
I guess that makes me as bad as Michelle
Firstly, you were complaining about involving Froome's wife into conversation.
I told you why.
Than you brought all the which hunt stuff.
I told you that is not the case here, at least with me.
And now you asks so what if she runs his whole career? I don't mind, I only pointed to the fact that the reason why she's mentioned is precisely that.
rick james
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So Michelle Froome runs the show, her man is a multiple grand tour winner so she must be doing something right ....but the clinic knows best
gillan1969 said:pastronef said:
Sport's people are these days more than that...marketing themselves is as much part of some's package than others e.g. through social media and traditional media. Michelle is very 'active in CF's career, (career in the wider sense of the word and not just what he does on the road).
Bearing this in mind the comment I made seems entirely appropriate.
As per the the above interview......they come as a package
As an aside, it was Walsh and Froome (who knows, maybe even michelle
Like I said ... your true colors are shining, Gillian. You've played your big hand early, bro. Good luck moving forward.
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OK. What we both have and havent said is still there for anyone to see. Sometimes you reach a point in discussion where you realise it's going nowhere. You and I are now at that point...enjoy the rest of your day
Blanco said:brownbobby said:Blanco said:Again, do you realize his wife is running his WHOLE CAREER? To me it looks like you don't.
She interfered numerous times. She blocks people left and right on his twitter account, she argues with people all the time on this same HIS account, she explains stuff about his husband, stuff he should talk about, not her, and you have a problem when someone points that she literally runs his career.
And on top of that, you don't have a problem about that fact, you want to create some situation here, as like someone talks bad about Froome's wife, kid, pets, dad...! No one does!
It was simply stated that his wife runs his career, which is very probably true. She was seeking for attention and she got it!
And why are you turning this into which hunt is beyond me
Firstly, I was engaging in the banter....then you asked me directly what my problem was. So I obligingly told you, wouldn't have bought the rest up otherwise.
To the bolded bit...you need to read back through this forum if you believe that...I've only been here a few months and I've seen plenty of it.
So she runs his whole career? So what...it seems to be an arrangement they're mutually happy with.
You miss my point that I really don't care what she does, the personal relationships and arrangements between CF and MF are outside my zone of interest. I did clarify that was my opinion and its up to you if its something that you want to feel strongly about.
And a final confession, fwiw, I would do almost everything within my power to defend and improve the prospects for my closest family. Absolutely no doubt that I would lie, cheat and fight like an alleycat if I thought it would protect them from harm.
I guess that makes me as bad as Michelle
Firstly, you were complaining about involving Froome's wife into conversation.
I told you why.
Than you brought all the which hunt stuff.
I told you that is not the case here, at least with me.
And now you asks so what if she runs his whole career? I don't mind, I only pointed to the fact that the reason why she's mentioned is precisely that.
OK. What we both have and havent said is still there for anyone to see. Sometimes you reach a point in discussion where you realise it's going nowhere. You and I are now at that point...enjoy the rest of your day
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Alpe73 said:gillan1969 said:pastronef said:
Sport's people are these days more than that...marketing themselves is as much part of some's package than others e.g. through social media and traditional media. Michelle is very 'active in CF's career, (career in the wider sense of the word and not just what he does on the road).
Bearing this in mind the comment I made seems entirely appropriate.
As per the the above interview......they come as a package
As an aside, it was Walsh and Froome (who knows, maybe even michelle
Like I said ... your true colors are shining, Gillian. You've played your big hand early, bro. Good luck moving forward.
horse, water...stay thirsty alpe
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Nope bad post IMHO (no reason given either - why bother to up the informed debate another gear?)miguelindurain111 said:
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That's the sound of an elastic band.
And no wonder ... Clinic bin goin all out these winta munths ... tryin git ouh man. Full court press by the Clinic (how many)! Back in d' day ... we'd had a big Mutha Fuckin posse behind us. Wheh'd ya'all go!?!
LaFlorecita said:
That's the sound of an elastic band.
And no wonder ... Clinic bin goin all out these winta munths ... tryin git ouh man. Full court press by the Clinic (how many)! Back in d' day ... we'd had a big Mutha Fuckin posse behind us. Wheh'd ya'all go!?!
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