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Surely you guys understand the difference between "Collusion between the UCI and key riders is well documented" and "Froome personally had the UCI go after Cobo". You may want to explore the merits of the latter theory, but so far there is nothing to support it, and the timeline is hard to reconcile with such a directed effort.

You don't need to support every inane statement that rick challenges.
 
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Have to agree that there is little real evidence of the official story. Froome crashed in a town, was treated there for hours, breaks anything and everything, and we have nothing to show for it. No bystander photographs, even Poels "didn't want to look", he even didnt go back to help his teammate, which I found very strange myself. The conspiracy guys can be easily shut up with a few photographs from Ineos/Froome. If they don't release anything, these rumours will remain.
 
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Swingtop said:
Have to agree that there is little real evidence of the official story. Froome crashed in a town, was treated there for hours, breaks anything and everything, and we have nothing to show for it. No bystander photographs, even Poels "didn't want to look", he even didnt go back to help his teammate, which I found very strange myself. The conspiracy guys can be easily shut up with a few photographs from Ineos/Froome. If they don't release anything, these rumours will remain.
So, Dan Martin witnessing the accident and Froome's photo in the hospital bed is not sufficient?

Allright.
 
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Photo not showing anything really, and all the witnesses are cyclists. Why don't they silence the conspiracy guys once and for all by just showing something? It's not like we cycling fans are squeamish, we're used to this stuff. After all the horror stories, I also found the state of Froome remarkable, and the interviews quite strange. But if this was fake, I don't really understand the motive though. Forgoing a 5th TdF win is not something you'd easily do. Still, waiting for some photos of Froome's injuries.
 
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Swingtop said:
Photo not showing anything really, and all the witnesses are cyclists. Why don't they silence the conspiracy guys once and for all by just showing something? It's not like we cycling fans are squeamish, we're used to this stuff. After all the horror stories, I also found the state of Froome remarkable, and the interviews quite strange. But if this was fake, I don't really understand the motive though. Forgoing a 5th TdF win is not something you'd easily do. Still, waiting for some photos of Froome's injuries.
State of the world we live in.

You answered your own query. What's the motive? Months of build up..
 
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Swingtop said:
Have to agree that there is little real evidence of the official story. Froome crashed in a town, was treated there for hours, breaks anything and everything, and we have nothing to show for it. No bystander photographs, even Poels "didn't want to look", he even didnt go back to help his teammate, which I found very strange myself. The conspiracy guys can be easily shut up with a few photographs from Ineos/Froome. If they don't release anything, these rumours will remain.
Why the hell would you want to see picture of froomes broken body?


So is dan Martin and all the French doctors now on team Ineos payroll?
 
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Swingtop said:
Photo not showing anything really, and all the witnesses are cyclists. Why don't they silence the conspiracy guys once and for all by just showing something? It's not like we cycling fans are squeamish, we're used to this stuff. After all the horror stories, I also found the state of Froome remarkable, and the interviews quite strange. But if this was fake, I don't really understand the motive though. Forgoing a 5th TdF win is not something you'd easily do. Still, waiting for some photos of Froome's injuries.
You won’t be getting any photos....it has nothing to do with you
 
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Instead of just silencing these rumours with some evidence, hell, even some x-rays or so, they give us nothing. The tinfoilhatters have a field day in this way, can't blame them really. This is the age of mobile phones everywhere, except in such a major event involving a 4-time TdF winner.
 
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Swingtop said:
Instead of just silencing these rumours with some evidence, hell, even some x-rays or so, they give us nothing. The tinfoilhatters have a field day in this way, can't blame them really. This is the age of mobile phones everywhere, except in such a major event involving a 4-time TdF winner.
Sorry, what rumours? The ones in your head?

Utter fuken stupidity does not need to be silenced. It just needs to be ignored.
 
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Swingtop said:
Instead of just silencing these rumours with some evidence, hell, even some x-rays or so, they give us nothing. The tinfoilhatters have a field day in this way, can't blame them really. This is the age of mobile phones everywhere, except in such a major event involving a 4-time TdF winner.
There are two explanations here.

1. Ineos fake a crash and then involve the following: Dan Martin & UAE, villagers of Roanne, French paramedics, Roanne hospital staff, a helicopter crew and St. Etienne hospital staff, including not one but two senior surgeons. (Fortunately not a single one of them had the ethics to say no). But then they forget to make the photo they send out dramatic enough. The reason for this is unknown as is why a simple 'unknown virus' couldn't have done the job .

2. Froome crashed and there are some real idiots on Twitter.

It's a dilemma for sure
 
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macbindle said:
Swingtop said:
Instead of just silencing these rumours with some evidence, hell, even some x-rays or so, they give us nothing. The tinfoilhatters have a field day in this way, can't blame them really. This is the age of mobile phones everywhere, except in such a major event involving a 4-time TdF winner.
Sorry, what rumours? The ones in your head?

Utter fuken stupidity does not need to be silenced. It just needs to be ignored.


Nailed it :cool:
 
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Swingtop said:
Have to agree that there is little real evidence of the official story. Froome crashed in a town, was treated there for hours, breaks anything and everything, and we have nothing to show for it. No bystander photographs, even Poels "didn't want to look", he even didnt go back to help his teammate, which I found very strange myself. The conspiracy guys can be easily shut up with a few photographs from Ineos/Froome. If they don't release anything, these rumours will remain.
But how would we know the photograph's weren't fakes?? :surprised:
 
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Appears Geraint has ”crashed” as well. How unfortunate.
Seems like the stars doesnt align around them this time.

But how unfortunate that they doesnt seem to have the protection needed so would be hard to answer why they was flying last year and now would be back to their zig-zagging ways. It wouldnt been pretty.

The moment has presented itself to slip out through the backdoor with a perfect explanation if and when they are back next year as shadows of their former self.
 
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Parker said:
Swingtop said:
Instead of just silencing these rumours with some evidence, hell, even some x-rays or so, they give us nothing. The tinfoilhatters have a field day in this way, can't blame them really. This is the age of mobile phones everywhere, except in such a major event involving a 4-time TdF winner.
There are two explanations here.

1. Ineos fake a crash and then involve the following: Dan Martin & UAE, villagers of Roanne, French paramedics, Roanne hospital staff, a helicopter crew and St. Etienne hospital staff, including not one but two senior surgeons. (Fortunately not a single one of them had the ethics to say no). But then they forget to make the photo they send out dramatic enough. The reason for this is unknown as is why a simple 'unknown virus' couldn't have done the job .

2. Froome crashed and there are some real idiots on Twitter.

It's a dilemma for sure
let's see

there's two explanations...

1. there was a big bang, debris gathered, stars and planets formed.....(I'm going to skip a few billion years of chance events)..the human emerged as the etc etc etc
2. God made the earth and humans thereon...the end

you're welcome ;)
 
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rick james said:
Swingtop said:
Photo not showing anything really, and all the witnesses are cyclists. Why don't they silence the conspiracy guys once and for all by just showing something? It's not like we cycling fans are squeamish, we're used to this stuff. After all the horror stories, I also found the state of Froome remarkable, and the interviews quite strange. But if this was fake, I don't really understand the motive though. Forgoing a 5th TdF win is not something you'd easily do. Still, waiting for some photos of Froome's injuries.
You won’t be getting any photos....it has nothing to do with you
we will be getting photos......the convalesence will be well documented by the likes of Moore and Walsh....it has everything to do with us.........we are his public
 
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gillan1969 said:
rick james said:
Swingtop said:
Photo not showing anything really, and all the witnesses are cyclists. Why don't they silence the conspiracy guys once and for all by just showing something? It's not like we cycling fans are squeamish, we're used to this stuff. After all the horror stories, I also found the state of Froome remarkable, and the interviews quite strange. But if this was fake, I don't really understand the motive though. Forgoing a 5th TdF win is not something you'd easily do. Still, waiting for some photos of Froome's injuries.
You won’t be getting any photos....it has nothing to do with you
we will be getting photos......the convalesence will be well documented by the likes of Moore and Walsh....it has everything to do with us.........we are his public
Ah yes, Moore and Walsh - SDB’s own Leni Riefenstahl’s.
 
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...still even on a human level it's a bit strange...Poels didn't even go back to see if he was ok...or attempt to speak to him.....solid team that
Exactly, I'm Dutch so I listened to all the Dutch interviews as well. Poels' one was very, very strange indeed. And Knaven didn't even mention anything about Froome's open leg fracture, which is weird, because that's the most acute and critical injury which you don't see that often. And yes, if road.cc and other cycling sites have this conspiracy on the frontpage, there are rumours. Silence it with one photo.
 
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Swingtop said:
gillan1969 said:
...still even on a human level it's a bit strange...Poels didn't even go back to see if he was ok...or attempt to speak to him.....solid team that
Exactly, I'm Dutch so I listened to all the Dutch interviews as well. Poels' one was very, very strange indeed. And Knaven didn't even mention anything about Froome's open leg fracture, which is weird, because that's the most acute and critical injury which you don't see that often. And yes, if road.cc and other cycling sites have this conspiracy on the frontpage, there are rumours. Silence it with one photo.
Again...if you're brain is puddled enough to believe for one minute that the whole Froome crash and aftermath has been faked, why would you change your mind on the basis of one photo....with modern editing and effects techniques, coming up with a photo would be the easiest part of all the other things Ineos have had to put in place to create this huge 'conspiracy'.....in fact if you're so desperate to see a photo, hell i could even cobble something together for you on my mac :rolleyes:
 
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gillan1969 said:
rick james said:
Swingtop said:
Photo not showing anything really, and all the witnesses are cyclists. Why don't they silence the conspiracy guys once and for all by just showing something? It's not like we cycling fans are squeamish, we're used to this stuff. After all the horror stories, I also found the state of Froome remarkable, and the interviews quite strange. But if this was fake, I don't really understand the motive though. Forgoing a 5th TdF win is not something you'd easily do. Still, waiting for some photos of Froome's injuries.
You won’t be getting any photos....it has nothing to do with you
we will be getting photos......the convalesence will be well documented by the likes of Moore and Walsh....it has everything to do with us.........we are his public

We might get some pictures of his X-rays(which won’t be enough for some) what the tinfoil hat mob want is pictures of his bones sticking out and him getting worked on at the side of the road
 

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