Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Bavarianrider]

Froom should wear a picture of this on his helmet. Would just be as obvious as yesterdays performance.

 

[thehog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y3FzVQi-R8

Tropic Thunder. "You never go full ***!"

Froome went full *** yesterday. Will he go home empty handed?

 

[BroDeal]

No it was not. It's the assessment of the journalist who wrote the article. Which is still a not-insignificant point since it shows what other people who are familiar with the sport thought about Froome before the Vuelta '11, but it's not the point you'd like it to be. The graph is very funny anyway, even without lying about it, so please don't.

Who is lying now? If was not a journalist's assessment. The journalist did not make it up out of thin air. It is a reproduction of a graph BruyneelsFord drew as he assessed the capabilities and development of each Sky rider.

 

[Bavarianrider]

I am really curios what will happen now. I mean neither Froome nor Sky are silly retards. Surely they must exactly know what kind of outrage yesterday's performance cuased. They will have to play it cool now and avoid anything spectacular. Just cruise to victory.

 

[spalco]

Who is lying now? If was not a journalist's assessment. The journalist did not make it up out of thin air. It is a reproduction of a graph BruyneelsFord drew as he assessed the capabilities and development of each Sky rider.

But the datapoints aren't Brailsford's.

 

[BroDeal]

But the datapoints aren't Brailsford's.

Yeah, sure, dude. The journalist just made them up out of thin air. It is not like he talked to Brailsfraud or anything.

It is sad the munchkins have to resort to outright lying as well as revisionist history.

 

[Galic Ho]

Froome went full *** yesterday. Will he go home empty handed?

I certainly hope so. What marketer wants to sell this? I don't see how even the UCI and ASO wanted this level of ridiculousness.

Like someone here said...to be in the press room with a video camera. Would have been an absolute riot to film. What year to compare it to? 1999, 2001, 2003, 2006, 2007 or 2008?

Honestly I don't think any of them rate the way that did. We're talking a next to no good former climbing domestique for the guy who is regarded as the most talented and greatest stage racer of his generation, managed to not only shell out said GT specialist (Contador) but everyone else excluding his best buddy and team captain. This is beyond what USPS did and Lance had a huge repetoir of PROVEN climbing domestiques (some GT winners themselves) working for him.

I know when the French release that list of the 98 epo retests that it won't be the most talked about event regarding doping for this years Tour, despite it occurring on the Alpe d'Huez stage. Unless of course Froome does a 38 minutes ascent. Problem is he doesn't have to, even though he easily could. Few in that peloton are going to climb below 41 minutes. Even Contador, Valverde and Purito won't do it without destroying themselves.

So I think Froome alone has enough extra power to put 3 minutes into everyone else bar Porte on Alpe d'Huez.

BTW good call on predicting the 'full ***' unleashing stage. I don't think they are done yet. A nice crash or delay...well we'd really see Sky let the full bottle out. Hopefully that happens!

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Yeah, sure, dude. The journalist just made them up out of thin air. It is not like he talked to Brailsfraud or anything.

It is sad the munchkins have to resort to outright lying as well as revisionist history.

He is not the one that is lying. Even the graph says its an approximation. How close an approximation? Who knows. As for journalists making stuff up, well, that has never happened before has it?

Do you really think he went through everyone of those riders with Brailsford? Unlikely.

 

[LaFlorecita]

bottom line is, this tour is froome's to lose and this is the first time anyone can really say that since the armstrong years!

2009, 2012

 

[thehog]

He is not the one that is lying. Even the graph says its an approximation. How close an approximation? Who knows. As for journalists making stuff up, well, that has never happened before has it?

Do you really think he went through everyone of those riders with Brailsford? Unlikely.

He certainly didn't go over Froome because at the time he was so insignificant

Come on Pedro. Surely you're suggesting yesterday was real?

 

[BroDeal]

He is not the one that is lying. Even the graph says its an approximation. How close an approximation? Who knows. As for journalists making stuff up, well, that has never happened before has it?

Do you really think he went through everyone of those riders with Brailsford? Unlikely.

Brailsfraud drew the graph. The journalist reproduced it. Journalists have been known to take notes. You might quibble about the exact placement of various riders, but do you really think he misplaced an outlier like the worst rider on the team, a rider who was barely adequate to be at the WT level?

 

[zastomito]

He is not the one that is lying. Even the graph says its an approximation. How close an approximation? Who knows. As for journalists making stuff up, well, that has never happened before has it?

Do you really think he went through everyone of those riders with Brailsford? Unlikely.

Well it would have to be at least 90%-80% correct seeing as it is, as you said, approximation.
On the other hand do you mean to say that Froome was so ordinary that Brailsfod never bothered to talk about him, he just kinda said "Naah, just some guy on a minimum vage".

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

He certainly didn't go over Froome because at the time he was so insignificant

Come on Pedro. Surely you're suggesting yesterday was real?

I have already told you my position on Froome. My point was about taking second hand information as gospel.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Well it would have to be at least 90%-80% correct seeing as it is, as you said, approximation.
On the other hand do you mean to say that Froome was so ordinary that Brailsfod never bothered to talk about him, he just kinda said "Naah, just some guy on a minimum vage".

It is quite possible. Omega Pharma got rid of Peter Sagan because they did not think he could cut it did they not?

 

[melkemugg]

Simply said. Sky is clearly not showing the signs of a cleaner peloton that we all like to see.
He went far more *** than i thought he would.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Which ones or all of them

That's why I excluded him

Reminds me of wiggins comments about whether teams should be allowed to ride the tour if there is even a remote possibility that the doctors they employ have a shady past. (by shady see - doped 1 of the biggest teams in the sport for a decade)

Kinda changed his opinion on that pretty soon after.

Will she leave him when he tests positive? Could someone ask her on twitter. Warning she may threaten to sue you.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

I miss me mate JimmyFingers.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Brailsfraud drew the graph. The journalist reproduced it. Journalists have been known to take notes. You might quibble about the exact placement of various riders, but do you really think he misplaced an outlier like the worst rider on the team, a rider who was barely adequate to be at the WT level?

Did he draw they graph for them?

Please note, this graph is our interpretation of Dave Brailsford’s theory, not the exact graph produced for Team Sky

Sounds like they are trying to interpret it.

 

[thehog]

Sounds like they are trying to interpret it.

Sounds like you are.

One only needs to look at Froome's results at the time to fully understand why he placed where he was.

No one saw even the slightest sign of talent. He was a chump.

 

[LaFlorecita]

youre obviously trolling if you think all those riders came from nowhere, yet Froome didnt

You only just figured that out?

 

[Galic Ho]

I miss me mate JimmyFingers.

Did he/she/it cop the ban hammer?

 

[thehog]

I miss me mate JimmyFingers.

I miss her too.

 

[zastomito]

Omega Pharma got rid of Peter Sagan because they did not think he could cut it did they not?

Maybe it was because they had Boonen.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Ok a minute on Ten Dam isn't much, but LtD had a superday.

However everyone disregarding Mollema as some sort of suprise. He's a former Tour l'Avenir winner, had a lot more going for him as Porte or Froome as potential GC rider. Yet somehow is a suprise for most people (everyone seeing Mollema's result the past years should've seen it coming sooner or later that he'd be top 5 material at some point)

 

[The Hitch]

It is quite possible. Omega Pharma got rid of Peter Sagan because they did not think he could cut it did they not?

Sagan was how old? West ham told shevchenko he was **** when he was 15. Not the same thing as not rating someone when they are in their mid 20's

That's why I excluded him



Will she leave him when he tests positive? Could someone ask her on twitter.

Too far. That would just be unpleasant for unpleasant sake. Cound is hardly the mastermind behind this.