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darwin553 said:
Again both of these 'facts' you are saying can be used in connection with a multitude of other circumstantial facts against Froome to lead to a conclusion or build a case that he is indeed doping but it certainly doesn't point to any absolute knowledge or proof that he actually dopes.

Sure, there propably is some sort of none-zero probability that Froom is clean. I just don't think it's very high.

Out of curiosity do you know what '' marks around a word is supposed to mean?
 
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Cerberus said:
Sure, there propably is some sort of none-zero probability that Froom is clean. I just don't think it's very high.

Exactly the highest you can put it is a suspicion (however definitive you may wish to think it is) that he is doping and not knowledge.

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Out of curiosity do you know what '' marks around a word is supposed to mean?

When you are quoting someone else, I suppose...
 
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saganftw said:
why are you arguing semantics in this thread,whether you "know" or just "think" or "suspect" that froome is doping why does it matter,this is not the court of law

It matters when you are forced to listen to one member ram his opinion down your throat thinking he is right all the time.
 
darwin553 said:
It matters when you are forced to listen to one member ram his opinion down your throat thinking he is right all the time.

This is The Clinic and it's the Froome thread. What do you expect? Praise his otherworldly performances? Swallow the bilharzia, training harder than all explanations of his sudden rise from zero to hero?
 
Rollthedice said:
This is The Clinic and it's the Froome thread. What do you expect? Praise his otherworldly performances? Swallow the bilharzia, training harder than all explanations of his sudden rise from zero to hero?

It's all the truth, since I moved to the UK, I work twice as hard as those lazy continentals, and I do a desk job, IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITIES.
 
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Alphabet said:
These arguments that centre around 'People of X nationality are untrustworthy and have cultures that tolerate cheating' are virtually racist.
yes. racists on second life. their avatars garbed in KKK attire
 
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darwin553 said:
No siestas in the UK.
but the Brits own half of Majorca. they have siestas, pims, and bad suntans.

think ray winstone. think sexy beast. think gangsta

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blackcat said:
but the Brits own half of Majorca. they have siestas, pims, and bad suntans.

think ray winstone. think sexy beast. think gangsta

sexy-beast-original.jpg

That's why I said in the UK - outside the UK, many of them tend to blend in with the locals and their habits.
 
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darwin553 said:
That's why I said in the UK - outside the UK, many of them tend to blend in with the locals and their habits.
yeah, well... i dont see it that way.

i see brit expats in summers just like sunburnt turkeys who really need to OD on aloe vera.
 
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blackcat said:
as long as my fave posters brodeal, chewie, sniper, benotti, are not banned, oh, and mrsjohnmurphy or kim deal, as long as they are not banned, i am a happy man.

So for the next day you're not a happy chappy I take it.

Benotti was banned. Sniper was banned for weeks just last month I believe.

BroDeal and Chewie are too well honed to get banned.

MrsMJM...surprisingly not around that much. Love when they post though.

Argh...the Froome show and defining 'know.' That's subjective to each person. I'll stand by what I wrote. Most people have already chosen what 'know' is regarding doping and they aren't cutting Froome any slack. Why should they? What's he done for them or clean cycling? What have Sky done?

Nada, zip, nothing. The End. :D
 
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Galic Ho said:
So for the next day you're not a happy chappy I take it.

Benotti was banned. Sniper was banned for weeks just last month I believe.

BroDeal and Chewie are too well honed to get banned.

MrsMJM...surprisingly not around that much. Love when they post though.

Argh...the Froome show and defining 'know.' That's subjective to each person. I'll stand by what I wrote. Most people have already chosen what 'know' is regarding doping and they aren't cutting Froome any slack. Why should they? What's he done for them or clean cycling? What have Sky done?

Nada, zip, nothing. The End. :D

I have returned from my chastisement, refreshed on pane e acua ready to roll :)

I too am well honed :cool: but sometimes you got to push the limits and accept a ban.

BroD and Chewi have history too. We all do. Par for the course when you fight the good fight.:)
 

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Alphabet said:
These arguments that centre around 'People of X nationality are untrustworthy and have cultures that tolerate cheating' are virtually racist.

Yes, it is.

There are 'cultural issues' and they are 'far game' to discuss and address - but they affect organisations and small groups of specific people within an area - they aren't genetic, and it's completely unfair to tar 'all' with the same brush.

For example; the Moscow lab is clearly screwed; it has all the appearance of being corrupt. And there are clearly pools of bad doping practice in Russian track and field. The sheer number of recent doping pings makes that clear.

The idea that thereby all Russians are cheaters or untrustworthy is not sensible, and not acceptable.

To pretend that 'concentrations' don't exist is willful blindness.

It's a delicate balance.
 
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Galic Ho said:
So for the next day you're not a happy chappy I take it.

Benotti was banned. Sniper was banned for weeks just last month I believe.

BroDeal and Chewie are too well honed to get banned.

MrsMJM...surprisingly not around that much. Love when they post though.

Argh...the Froome show and defining 'know.' That's subjective to each person. I'll stand by what I wrote. Most people have already chosen what 'know' is regarding doping and they aren't cutting Froome any slack. Why should they? What's he done for them or clean cycling? What have Sky done?

Nada, zip, nothing. The End. :D
ill stand by what you know too galic
 
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FKLance said:
I have tried really hard not to comment here but I can't help it. This is just so wrong, it's killing me.

Your friends? who don't even follow the sport? You think your friends know something then? You understand that most people are like this by nature, they "call it like it is" while in actuality they understand nothing?

What is normal and healthy? a good 10-15% body fat?
The fact that they are skinny is evidence of doping?
Again, I'm not saying they are not doping, on the contrary. I think they are.
But I do not have evidence. YOU do not have evidence.

I've touched on ectomorphs and what they naturally look like. Froome is not a pure ectomorph. His pre Sky physiology says as much.

Andy Schleck is a pure ectomorph. My brother is. I know how bloody physically gifted their types are. They are elite. Naturals. They can do it all. Sorry, but if Froome was in that category, he'd have been making waves in cycling since he was a teen and in his early 20s. His first appearance was at 26.

This stuff has been covered again and again. Next thing you'll be telling me the Arnold Classic isn't littered with roid junkies. Spare us dude. All the super thin riders who have lost tremendous amounts of weight did so one way...doping. AICAR, Telismartin, GW1516, take your pick. FFS man, I can go down to Sydney, walk into a Fitness First gym and get any drug I'd want. There are tons of people selling Clenbuterol like it's Tic Tac's. The dealers make a LOT OF MONEY doing it. Talk about a GRAND per week. They're performance junkies. Pro sports people are even worse. They have more disposable income and yes, the drugs WORK. You're living in pixie land if you think they don't.

Healthy body fat is 12-15%. Fair enough. General public, men don't hit that. Even fit women struggle to get that low. We're talking PROFESSIONAL bike riders who before 2009 carried sub 10% body fat levels. If they didn't, they wouldn't have been able to race. Excess weight has been a major no no for decades in cycling despite the lies USPS and Sky have spun. But yes, you kid yourself thinking Froome had body fat to lose and was a fattie by pro standards.

Truth is he was normal-ish before 2011. The only people who think Froome's current physique is normal have body dysmorphia issues. But you keep sprouting it's normal if it helps.

@darwin556...you still never answered anything put to you in this thread. It really must eat you up to know your boy and team are getting called out for their BS. BTW everything you posted at me...they were raised by others and answered thoroughly. I'd advise you to once again read them, but you're not here to learn and educate yourself. You should get the tissues ready for tonight. ;)
 
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buckle said:
I agree and his tastes are not expensive - he lives in an unfashionable part of the UK. His problem might be if someone spills the beans in exchange for a reduced ban. There is so much riding on this for the British because of DB.

What might worry SKY is Ian Livingstone (CEO of BT) joining the government. BT are going head to head with SKY.

Anyway, this is Froome talk so sorry for the troll and going off piste. One can only hope that Froome glows on Ventoux today!

Let it play out I say. We'll find out eventually.

DB is the link to everything. Get dirt on him, the whole system collapses. He was behind all of it going back to Athens 2004.

Glowing today. He'll do it one of the days. Why leave with one stage win? Why not take a few more?
 
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Galic Ho said:
I've touched on ectomorphs and what they naturally look like. Froome is not a pure ectomorph. His pre Sky physiology says as much.

Andy Schleck is a pure ectomorph. My brother is. I know how bloody physically gifted their types are. They are elite. Naturals. They can do it all. Sorry, but if Froome was in that category, he'd have been making waves in cycling since he was a teen and in his early 20s. His first appearance was at 26.

This stuff has been covered again and again. Next thing you'll be telling me the Arnold Classic isn't littered with roid junkies. Spare us dude. All the super thin riders who have lost tremendous amounts of weight did so one way...doping. AICAR, Telismartin, GW1516, take your pick. FFS man, I can go down to Sydney, walk into a Fitness First gym and get any drug I'd want. There are tons of people selling Clenbuterol like it's Tic Tac's. The dealers make a LOT OF MONEY doing it. Talk about a GRAND per week. They're performance junkies. Pro sports people are even worse. They have more disposable income and yes, the drugs WORK. You're living in pixie land if you think they don't.

Healthy body fat is 12-15%. Fair enough. General public, men don't hit that. Even fit women struggle to get that low. We're talking PROFESSIONAL bike riders who before 2009 carried sub 10% body fat levels. If they didn't, they wouldn't have been able to race. Excess weight has been a major no no for decades in cycling despite the lies USPS and Sky have spun. But yes, you kid yourself thinking Froome had body fat to lose and was a fattie by pro standards.

Truth is he was normal-ish before 2011. The only people who think Froome's current physique is normal have body dysmorphia issues. But you keep sprouting it's normal if it helps.

@darwin556...you still never answered anything put to you in this thread. It really must eat you up to know your boy and team are getting called out for their BS. BTW everything you posted at me...they were raised by others and answered thoroughly. I'd advise you to once again read them, but you're not here to learn and educate yourself. You should get the tissues ready for tonight. ;)

Not up to me to answer any of your questions. You are the one accusing Froome of doping, not me and all I ask is what evidence you have that can support your knowledge of his doping? You did say you know he's a doper, right?
 
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Alphabet said:
These arguments that centre around 'People of X nationality are untrustworthy and have cultures that tolerate cheating' are virtually racist.

Don't tell FoxxyBrown that. His posts about Southern Europeans have been getting very disturbing. So much so I'd wager some Spaniards probably broke into his place one day and defecated on his bed or something to equal measure.

But yeah, the northern Euros (I'll exclude the Scandinavians) certainly have been acting like the Eastern and Southern Euros are dirty as all ******y. I think the whole attitude reeks.

After all, at least Spaniards, Russians and Italians are getting caught doping. How many Anglo's who've appeared out of no where or improved to be world bests in many sports have been popped by comparison? Not enough.
 

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