I think people are being a bit unfair towards Froomey. If his watt numbers are correct, Nibali last year would have followed him. The team as a whole on the other hand, with Thomas and Porte is funny as hell
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Poursuivant said:Pulp said:the sceptic said:ammattipyöräily @ammattipyoraily 2m2 minutes ago
#TDF2015, Stage 10. La Pierre Saint Martin (14.89 km, 7.72 %, 1150 m)
Chris Froome: 40 min 54 sec, 21.84 Kph, VAM 1687 m/h, 6.09 W/kg [DrF]
isn`t this within the realm of what is considered possible without juice?
Yep.
Flamin said:Is the 6,09 w/kg calculation the only one going around? Because I have Froome in 40'43" over 15.3km (22.54kPh) which is quite a big difference with 40'54" over 14.89km...
Ross Tucker @Scienceofsport 1 hour ago
6W/kg for 30 would be grey. 6.1 W/kg for 42 is not. It's off the charts high. Quintana is your benchmark - 5.9W for 40m
ad9898 said:Gesink climbed with 409 Watts, average HR 179bpm.... Froome pulled 1.30 on him... wonder what Froome's HR was, about 155 (i.e Sunday casual ride) on this.
https://www.strava.com/activities/345923267/segments/8223093781
SeriousSam said:The "no one is in form for the races Sky dominate" narrative was dumb in 2012 and it still is.
JackRabbitSlims said:seriously
what did you all expect
i'm surprised at some of the pissy responses from some of the seasoned writers and readers on here
mr froome looking very fit, very lean, very strong, very alien since day one
itt cobbles short punchy climbs ttt
check
the other players
looking anything like contenders
1st mtf
full team sky show case
froome laying down the marker and riding away with it
haven't we seen this all before
i ask again
what did you expect
this is pro cycling isn't it
Vino attacks everyone said:I think people are being a bit unfair towards Froomey. If his watt numbers are correct, Nibali last year would have followed him. The team as a whole on the other hand, with Thomas and Porte is funny as hell
bigcog said:The reality is:
Contador - cooked from giro
Quintana - good, but when has he beaten Froome who only beat him by 1 minute on an ideal stage for Froome
Nibali - already cooked
Froome - delivered a good performance, made to look stellar by the above
SeriousSam said:The "no one is in form for the races Sky dominate" narrative was dumb in 2012 and it still is.
Poursuivant said:6.09 w/kg is not mutant, as Merckx Index explained in his informative post a page or so back. But, as much as 'Sky bots can't accept things', the irony is, the 'Sky haters' are doing that very thing.
Ross Tucker @Scienceofsport 2 hours ago
6W/kg for 30 would be grey. 6.1 W/kg for 42 is not. It's off the charts high. Quintana is your benchmark - 5.9W for 40m
Take yourself out of sky world and think about this, he came out of nowhere and is now here, even Armstrong was more plausible and I hated Armstrong. This is disgusting.bigcog said:SeriousSam said:The "no one is in form for the races Sky dominate" narrative was dumb in 2012 and it still is.
So Nibali and Contador are on form ? Well *** me.
Vino attacks everyone said:I think people are being a bit unfair towards Froomey. If his watt numbers are correct, Nibali last year would have followed him. The team as a whole on the other hand, with Thomas and Porte is funny as hell
Yes, " I am sorry you don't believe in miracles"ToreBear said:Well done Froomey and sky, as well as movistar. As for people who say this is impossible. I'm sorry you think everything in the human body is a known and measured scientific quantity.
TheSpud said:Loving it here - Froome doing exactly what (almost) everyone on here expected him to, and you're all complaining. You even have power data and you're complaining about that. Seriously will you ever be satisfied?
ToreBear said:Well done Froomey and sky, as well as movistar. As for people who say this is impossible. I'm sorry you think everything in the human body is a known and measured scientific quantity.
HWMNBN said:Finally, the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics: I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles.
H2OUUP2 said:JackRabbitSlims said:seriously
what did you all expect
i'm surprised at some of the pissy responses from some of the seasoned writers and readers on here
mr froome looking very fit, very lean, very strong, very alien since day one
itt cobbles short punchy climbs ttt
check
the other players
looking anything like contenders
1st mtf
full team sky show case
froome laying down the marker and riding away with it
haven't we seen this all before
i ask again
what did you expect
this is pro cycling isn't it
You're right... But it's not in peoples nature to just sit down and take it.
I also believe that this is not exactly what people had expected. It's a little different. Maybe they thought Froome would win this stage, and wear Yellow in Paris. But do what he did today? I don't think that was expected. What just happened was eerily similar to the late 90's/early 2000's.
DrSahl said:Vino attacks everyone said:I think people are being a bit unfair towards Froomey. If his watt numbers are correct, Nibali last year would have followed him. The team as a whole on the other hand, with Thomas and Porte is funny as hell
Unfair ? well data can't be used for anything, its to easy to manipulate or to suit your arguements. All this being said, the thing I am annoyed about is that Froome never has a bad day.. as in very bad. he is not just stable, he is always a superman and that just makes me think Armstrong right away.. its nothing to do with today, since that could have happened, clean ? well none are clean so no... but thats an "even playing field maybe" notice maybe... but the fact he always just peaks and does not look to break a sweat is a problem.. is and was Contador doped ? yes.. but I didnt mind just as much, because he didnt do stuff like this, he did win also with margins, but not every day with ease..
Look Froome is still flying
Yeah great to see all those clean guys doing well, always good to see Valverde up thereToreBear said:Well done Froomey and sky, as well as movistar. As for people who say this is impossible. I'm sorry you think everything in the human body is a known and measured scientific quantity.