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I'm pleased to see all of Froome's very vociferous and persistent detractors on this forum being so outspoken about Quintana's cheating caught on camera yesterday, at a crucial moment in the race as he tried to limit his losses to Froome.

It really does show that it really isn't all about bigotry and they apply the same rigour to all riders regardless of team, or nationality.

:lol:
 
Jul 20, 2015
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kwikki said:
I'm pleased to see all of Froome's very vociferous and persistent detractors on this forum being so outspoken about Quintana's cheating caught on camera yesterday, at a crucial moment in the race as he tried to limit his losses to Froome.

It really does show that it really isn't all about bigotry and they apply the same rigour to all riders regardless of team, or nationality.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Imagine the outcry if Froome did that instead of running
 
Apr 3, 2016
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He hung onto a motorcycle, getting a tow up Ventoux, after he was dropped by Froome and Porte.

I'm surprised you haven't heard the howls of outrage :lol:
 
May 26, 2010
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Boy the ASO/UCI must have missed the directions and advice from Armstrong and Bruyneel. So lucky that Braislford and Froome can fill that gap!
 
Sky will be receiving a letter in the post shortly from the UCI thanking them for Sir Dave's and Froomies input into the decision taken yesterday. It will state that they were the most co-operative of all the teams in the peloton, all the rest just buggered off.
 
For what it matters, choosing not to use a bicycle on course... elimination is the result.

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Jul 20, 2015
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PremierAndrew said:
Maybe Froome and Brailsford were only summoned to hear the result, and not actually there during the decision making?

Maybe. But not what was said by ITV.

As for Nairo...well, that's the problem with applying exceptions in exceptional circumstances. It makes it rather hard to then go and apply the rules.

Hard to really care, though, one way and another. Feel sorry for Mollema, and Porte for his bad luck. All seems a bit of a farce.
 
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ebandit said:
thehog said:
For what it matters, choosing not to use a bicycle on course... elimination is the result.
right! elimination for using slower method......................rule

expected quicker (cheating) way.......................such as nairo hanging onto

motorbike..............

Mark L

The rule was clearly written with getting a lift in a car in mind e.g Sepvuldia last year. Not running up Ventoux
 
Jul 15, 2016
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I would like to apologize beforehand if this post runs a little long or will be incoherent since English is not my primary language. I have from time to time checked out this forum, mostly during the Lance days but are now back as Sky is going US Postal 2.0. I feel compelled to write here as there are many idiots both in the clinic and in the normal forum who feels that the UCI decision was correct and fair.

Yesterday UCI (with a great deal of help from Sky) destroyed the little integrity that was left in this sport. What separates cycling from other sports is that it is impossible to have complete set of rules since is is performed out in public areas, meaning that anything can (and will) happen. However, to achieve some sort of fair play it has been up to the riders decide the results. There has been a mutual respect for each other in the peloton, often with certain riders being "flagbearers" to uphold this.

The Sky clowns has in couple of years ruined this. For example, it is now standard that Sky rides full gas in front of the peloton if there is the slightest breeze. I guess they hope that it will incur crashes which will be beneficial for Sky if they are at the front. There are more examples of this behavior which combined with the insane amount of cheating (doping+motor I assume) has made the other riders grown tired and they are now doing the same.

What happened yesterday is not something unique or unusual in tour history. Merckx was punched, Armstrong had a fall in one of his victory years etc. What should have happened yesterday was that Porte and Mollema should have stood up and waited for Froome to remount, and the riders coming from behind should have waited as well. However, as Sky has killed all the integrity in the riders the other riders applied the Sky "marginal gains" strategy and rode on. The result should stand as has always happened in the past but for some reason UCI decided to step in, as to why is rather obvious but to show the world that they do not even try to make it look like a fair sport is new to me.

What we have now is no longer a sport but something that will be decided bribed commisaries in closed rooms. I think think we will see a continuing development where the original "big" cycling countries will lose interest and have fewer teams as no sponsor will found as there is no heart or soul left in the sport. What excites me about cycling is that you will never know what will happen, in comparison to football it does not have a fixed structure of how a game is played. This has changed as it is now standard that Sky has a "scientific" approach to go about things. Some people may enjoy this but why don't we just let everyone bike on simulators and see who can turn out the most average watts for a given period of time?
 
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excellent first post, jarnix.
agree that Sky is turning the sport into a farce, with a high degree of @sshole-ship at the cost of traditional cycling etiquettes.

Froome, btw, should've been disqualified following UCI rules:
https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/753936589370327041
Oh well.

the list of favors UCI have done Sky is growing by the day.

The scepticism about yesterday's decision and the smell of favoritism, well UCI and Sky owe it to themselves.
 
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Disagree Mollema said he wasn't thinking about gaining time just wanted to get to the finish line.

I've got breaking news for everyone not everything is Sky's fault. Just because they have a different approaches to tradition, don't make everything purely about them. In my eyes the correct decision has been made and Prudhomme should be under pressure for how this race is run and how he prevent this happening again.
 
Apr 3, 2016
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Quite.

An entirely predictable and avoidable incident that could have wrecked the chances of the main contenders, regardless of who they were.
 
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sniper said:
excellent first post, jarnix.
agree that Sky is turning the sport into a farce, with a high degree of @sshole-ship at the cost of traditional cycling etiquettes.

Froome, btw, should've been disqualified following UCI rules:
https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/753936589370327041
Oh well.

the list of favors UCI have done Sky is growing by the day.

The scepticism about yesterday's decision and the smell of favoritism, well UCI and Sky owe it to themselves.

Because the entire stage was a *** show, with many riders breaking the rules, taking illegal feeds etc. it should have been annulled in totality. The outcome hat occurred was giving bonuses to specific riders because bad luck occurred.

Cancelling the time on stage doesn't impact the race as there is still 4 MTFs to come including two TTs.

It was a poor decision for all riders but if Sir Dave has a front seat at the UCI table, then what can you do?
 
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sniper said:
excellent first post, jarnix.
agree that Sky is turning the sport into a farce, with a high degree of @sshole-ship at the cost of traditional cycling etiquettes.

Froome, btw, should've been disqualified following UCI rules:
https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/753936589370327041
Oh well.

the list of favors UCI have done Sky is growing by the day.

The scepticism about yesterday's decision and the smell of favoritism, well UCI and Sky owe it to themselves.

Christ almighty. What part of "riders got run over by a race motorbike" don't people get????!!!!

As soon as that happens all rules are out of the window or we're quickly into a situation where unscrupulous teams (i.e. all of them in your eyes) are slipping moto drivers brown envelopes to "accidentally" mow down or impede whichever opponent is threatening them that day.
 
Apr 3, 2016
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Don't worry, Simoni.

If it had been Quintana running up the road with Froome chasing from behind hanging off a vehicle do you think sniper & Co would be saying the same thing?

Not a chance.

Reason blinded by hate.
 
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simoni said:
sniper said:
excellent first post, jarnix.
agree that Sky is turning the sport into a farce, with a high degree of @sshole-ship at the cost of traditional cycling etiquettes.

Froome, btw, should've been disqualified following UCI rules:
https://twitter.com/MRasmussen1974/status/753936589370327041
Oh well.

the list of favors UCI have done Sky is growing by the day.

The scepticism about yesterday's decision and the smell of favoritism, well UCI and Sky owe it to themselves.

Christ almighty. What part of "riders got run over by a race motorbike" don't people get????!!!!

As soon as that happens all rules are out of the window or we're quickly into a situation where unscrupulous teams (i.e. all of them in your eyes) are slipping moto drivers brown envelopes to "accidentally" mow down or impede whichever opponent is threatening them that day.

Who got run over by a motorbike? No one. Apparently Froome's lightweight frame got hit from behind.

Recently at the Tour of Belguim one stage was annulled due a motorcycle hitting part of the peloton. Why not here?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/belgium-tour-stage-3-abandoned-after-motorbikes-cause-big-crash/