As Chris himself said yesterday, its not like he's going away from other riders up climbs!! Froome sandbagging again, just doing enough.and trying to keep it believable. Ridiculous.
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Looked like Froome wasn't even breathing when following Porte at the summit while everyone else in the race was dying
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The guy is obviously doping, but even for a doper these performances are a bit too much.
If he's doing this without his friends at UCI helping him hide suspicious values or positive tests and without a motor we're probably talking about a once-in-a-lifetime type responder. The guy clearly has another three gears left if he really needs it. A more likely explanation is that Sky have bought a carte blanche from UCI to use every single dirty trick in the book, Armstrong style.
I'd wear a hazmat suit if I had to share a hotel with him.
If he's doing this without his friends at UCI helping him hide suspicious values or positive tests and without a motor we're probably talking about a once-in-a-lifetime type responder. The guy clearly has another three gears left if he really needs it. A more likely explanation is that Sky have bought a carte blanche from UCI to use every single dirty trick in the book, Armstrong style.
I'd wear a hazmat suit if I had to share a hotel with him.
What galls is the criticism that Quintana gets for not sticking with Froome and not attacking him and the fact that he has poor form etc etc. How about he is not bloody fit to as he is so cooked with the insane rate of knots put out by the sky train and then Froome breezing in to finish it all off. And he is a 57kg lightweight altitude climber who got his ass spanked on his own terrain.
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In a world where all his adversaries are doped nearly or as much as him, I concede he's the best in the biz and deserves to be in yellow.
More than Froome, I think what sparks most discussion every year is the fact that they always manage to have at least one dom stronger than all other team leaders. From Richie to G to Poels.
More than Froome, I think what sparks most discussion every year is the fact that they always manage to have at least one dom stronger than all other team leaders. From Richie to G to Poels.
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Aero is not everything. In the 'aero tuck', you are pushing your centre of mass towards the front of the bike, leading to higher acceleration downhill. The advantage gained by that is much greater than the 0.6% increase in air resistance. Makes me question a lot of digger's stuff that I've been believing til now
Benotti69 said:
Aero is not everything. In the 'aero tuck', you are pushing your centre of mass towards the front of the bike, leading to higher acceleration downhill. The advantage gained by that is much greater than the 0.6% increase in air resistance. Makes me question a lot of digger's stuff that I've been believing til now
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Agree, he could just be a super responder. If he was clean pre 2011 (which I'm sceptical about, but even if he was relatively clean), his results during that period were superb for a clean-ish rider, indicating a huge natural talent. Going on a full programme of extreme weight-loss plus blood doping, could turn him into this kind of freak if he is a super resonder.Saint Unix said:
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He probably was clean pre-2011, despite his dodgy links. His transformation is remarkable even if he simply started doping. There's a lot more to Froome's transformation than just clinic stuff
DFA123 said:
He probably was clean pre-2011, despite his dodgy links. His transformation is remarkable even if he simply started doping. There's a lot more to Froome's transformation than just clinic stuff
The 2 blood brothers proving stronger than everyone else again today and it keeps coming back to this. The imponderable is how?
Top 6 times up the Col de la Madone
Richie Porte 29:40
Chris Froome 30:09
Tom Danielson 30:24
Lance Armstrong 30:45
Tony Rominger 31:30
Tyler Hamilton 32:32
Top 6 times up the Col de la Madone
Richie Porte 29:40
Chris Froome 30:09
Tom Danielson 30:24
Lance Armstrong 30:45
Tony Rominger 31:30
Tyler Hamilton 32:32
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He was still in yellow before today if it hadn't been neutralised but the old egg beater would have been turned on full gas then.
Catwhoorg said:
He was still in yellow before today if it hadn't been neutralised but the old egg beater would have been turned on full gas then.
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No, he probably wasn't clean pre-2011.
Suffice to know a little about Froome's pre-2011 trajectory and the guys he trained with and was coached by.
And were Lance or Floyd or Riis clean pre-transformation? Of course not.
lol, funny stuff.PremierAndrew said:
No, he probably wasn't clean pre-2011.
Suffice to know a little about Froome's pre-2011 trajectory and the guys he trained with and was coached by.
And were Lance or Floyd or Riis clean pre-transformation? Of course not.
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Even if he started doping in 2011, the transformation is unbelievable. It just seems unlikely that he was already doping and still had such an incredibly massive transformation.
Then again, if it was any other rider who hadn't undergone a massive transformation and I saw them once in a Barloworld kit, I'd conclude that they were doping
sniper said:
Even if he started doping in 2011, the transformation is unbelievable. It just seems unlikely that he was already doping and still had such an incredibly massive transformation.
Then again, if it was any other rider who hadn't undergone a massive transformation and I saw them once in a Barloworld kit, I'd conclude that they were doping
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sounds plausible, and it would mean there's even some truth in Swart's otherwise ludicrous claim that 'he just lost the fat'.
Froome, doped to the gills pre-Vuelta and doped to the gills post-Vuelta, only now with AICAR.
rumors within the SA cycling scene say that he found AICAR in 2011.PremierAndrew said:
sounds plausible, and it would mean there's even some truth in Swart's otherwise ludicrous claim that 'he just lost the fat'.
Froome, doped to the gills pre-Vuelta and doped to the gills post-Vuelta, only now with AICAR.
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Depends what you define as just clinic stuff.
A lot of the things that can improve improve as a direct result of clinic stuff.
Eg being better gives increased confidence. Doping allows for one to take training a lot more seriously and do more of it thereby increasing the training too. Being fresh at the top of the mountain increases descending ability.
actually believing you can win the tdf might make you take more care of nutrition, if you actually were dumb enough not to care before when you were fighting for a contract.
PremierAndrew said:
Depends what you define as just clinic stuff.
A lot of the things that can improve improve as a direct result of clinic stuff.
Eg being better gives increased confidence. Doping allows for one to take training a lot more seriously and do more of it thereby increasing the training too. Being fresh at the top of the mountain increases descending ability.
actually believing you can win the tdf might make you take more care of nutrition, if you actually were dumb enough not to care before when you were fighting for a contract.
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Froome wasn't exactly fat when he joined Sky in 2010. So even with AICAR, how much fat would he have lost? Losing about 7-8kg of pure fat without losing power would explain the transformation, but did he really have that much fat back in 2010-July 2011
sniper said:
Froome wasn't exactly fat when he joined Sky in 2010. So even with AICAR, how much fat would he have lost? Losing about 7-8kg of pure fat without losing power would explain the transformation, but did he really have that much fat back in 2010-July 2011
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