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You're right Froome does attack, after his domestiques have burned every other teams GC leader up on the mountain.rick james said:
Don't be too Harsh. He used to zigzag and hold onto motos on climbs at least. The interesting thing is why he stopped this career path.rick james said:
But will he need to attack?Durden93 said:Really looking forward to Froome and robo sky vs Dumolin next year. We'll see how he fares when he has to attack. Hopefully he has time for a bike change before the Alpe
silvergrenade said:But will he need to attack?Durden93 said:Really looking forward to Froome and robo sky vs Dumolin next year. We'll see how he fares when he has to attack. Hopefully he has time for a bike change before the Alpe
Dumo might be the first of his GC rivals to crack when they up the pace with legendary Woet Poels.
:surprised: :lol:silvergrenade said:But will he need to attack?Durden93 said:Really looking forward to Froome and robo sky vs Dumolin next year. We'll see how he fares when he has to attack. Hopefully he has time for a bike change before the Alpe
Dumo might be the first of his GC rivals to crack when they up the pace with legendary Woet Poels.
At the Vuelta? Maybe.Robert5091 said:silvergrenade said:But will he need to attack?Durden93 said:Really looking forward to Froome and robo sky vs Dumolin next year. We'll see how he fares when he has to attack. Hopefully he has time for a bike change before the Alpe
Dumo might be the first of his GC rivals to crack when they up the pace with legendary Woet Poels.
Or will it turn into a yo-yo competition?
And if Poels is on a good day Froome might crack with Dumoulin.silvergrenade said:But will he need to attack?Durden93 said:Really looking forward to Froome and robo sky vs Dumolin next year. We'll see how he fares when he has to attack. Hopefully he has time for a bike change before the Alpe
Dumo might be the first of his GC rivals to crack when they up the pace with legendary Woet Poels.
Cadel Evans cannot be compared to Froome. He won it at 34 and was the only GT he ever won. As far as age is concerned, we'll just have to see. 35 is the new 30.Red Rick said:And if Poels is on a good day Froome might crack with Dumoulin.silvergrenade said:But will he need to attack?Durden93 said:Really looking forward to Froome and robo sky vs Dumolin next year. We'll see how he fares when he has to attack. Hopefully he has time for a bike change before the Alpe
Dumo might be the first of his GC rivals to crack when they up the pace with legendary Woet Poels.
I don't think Dumoulin's climbing was worse than Froome this year, it's just that Dumoulin was alone when he started fading.
And Froome definitely has better accelerations.
We'll see how Froome does when he focuses on Tour only again. I think the days of PSM and Ax3 could be behind us. Next July Froome will be 33, and when Evans won it at 34 he was considered ancient for a Tour champion.
Not sure. The TTT favours Dumoulin over anyone but Froome and Porte, and the cumulative climbing is lower in the Tour, which might just be his biggest weakness. In the Giro he started fading on the penultimate mountain stage, and he was very lucky they did not climb another side of Monte Grappa. I imagine the climbers will be more urgently trying to work together to distance Dumoulin, and it seems like the Finestre will be in at 70km from the finish.LaFlorecita said:
LaFlorecita said:
silvergrenade said:Cadel Evans cannot be compared to Froome. He won it at 34 and was the only GT he ever won. As far as age is concerned, we'll just have to see. 35 is the new 30.Red Rick said:And if Poels is on a good day Froome might crack with Dumoulin.silvergrenade said:But will he need to attack?Durden93 said:Really looking forward to Froome and robo sky vs Dumolin next year. We'll see how he fares when he has to attack. Hopefully he has time for a bike change before the Alpe
Dumo might be the first of his GC rivals to crack when they up the pace with legendary Woet Poels.
I don't think Dumoulin's climbing was worse than Froome this year, it's just that Dumoulin was alone when he started fading.
And Froome definitely has better accelerations.
We'll see how Froome does when he focuses on Tour only again. I think the days of PSM and Ax3 could be behind us. Next July Froome will be 33, and when Evans won it at 34 he was considered ancient for a Tour champion.
I just hope when Dumoulin goes up against Froome he has what it takes in the high mountains. Quintana has been hyped over the years after having won his Giro but has been thoroughly beaten at the Tour. The Giro is okay, but the Tour is the Tour. Better peaks, better teams, more control, tougher competition. With just 30 Kms of TT, he'll gain 30-60 secs. Not much.
We'll see how Dumo does. IMO, Porte and Quintana remain the biggest challengers to Froome unless we see something at TdR or Dauphine to suggest otherwise.
As for Ax3, LPSM they definitely can happen. Tour 2016 Ventoux was similar with Porte, Froome giving it to everybody. It's a shame the bike came in between. :razz:
gillan1969 said:silvergrenade said:Cadel Evans cannot be compared to Froome. He won it at 34 and was the only GT he ever won. As far as age is concerned, we'll just have to see. 35 is the new 30.Red Rick said:And if Poels is on a good day Froome might crack with Dumoulin.silvergrenade said:But will he need to attack?Durden93 said:Really looking forward to Froome and robo sky vs Dumolin next year. We'll see how he fares when he has to attack. Hopefully he has time for a bike change before the Alpe
Dumo might be the first of his GC rivals to crack when they up the pace with legendary Woet Poels.
I don't think Dumoulin's climbing was worse than Froome this year, it's just that Dumoulin was alone when he started fading.
And Froome definitely has better accelerations.
We'll see how Froome does when he focuses on Tour only again. I think the days of PSM and Ax3 could be behind us. Next July Froome will be 33, and when Evans won it at 34 he was considered ancient for a Tour champion.
I just hope when Dumoulin goes up against Froome he has what it takes in the high mountains. Quintana has been hyped over the years after having won his Giro but has been thoroughly beaten at the Tour. The Giro is okay, but the Tour is the Tour. Better peaks, better teams, more control, tougher competition. With just 30 Kms of TT, he'll gain 30-60 secs. Not much.
We'll see how Dumo does. IMO, Porte and Quintana remain the biggest challengers to Froome unless we see something at TdR or Dauphine to suggest otherwise.
As for Ax3, LPSM they definitely can happen. Tour 2016 Ventoux was similar with Porte, Froome giving it to everybody. It's a shame the bike came in between. :razz:
correct....Froome cannot be compared to Evans...look how good Evans was and he only won one GT...meanwhile, our hapless hero..... (PS - when I say good, I mean world class performances not...eh...the anatomic jock race)
Froome (basic wiki) palmares age 20 - 25
2005
1st Stage 2 Tour of Mauritius
2006
1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Tour of Mauritius
1st Stages 2 & 3
2nd Anatomic Jock Race
2007
1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Mi-Août en Bretagne
1st Stage 5 Giro delle Regioni
1st Stage 6 Tour of Japan
2nd Berg en Dale Classic
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Time trial, UCI B World Championships
3rd Road race, All-Africa Games
8th Tour du Doubs
2008
2nd Overall Giro del Capo
3rd Giro dell'Appennino
4th Overall Herald Sun Tour
6th Overall Volta ao Distrito de Santarém
2009
1st Stage 2 Giro del Capo
1st Anatomic Jock Race
4th Road race, National Road Championships
9th Gran Premio Nobili Rubinetterie
2010
2nd Time trial, National Road Championships
5th Time trial, Commonwealth Games
9th Overall Tour du Haut Var
Evans (basic wiki) palmares age 20-25
1997
1st MaillotAustralia.PNG National XC MTB Championships
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Under-23 XC Mountain Bike World Championship
1998
1st Overall Mountain Bike World Cup
1999
1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Tour of Tasmania
1st Stage 3
1st Jersey white.svg Young rider classification Tour Down Under
1st Overall Mountain Bike World Cup
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Under-23 XC Mountain Bike World Championships
2000
7th Sydney Olympics Mountain Bike Cross Country
2001
1st Jersey yellow.svg Overall Tour of Austria
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Team Relay Mountain Bike World Championships
2002
Commonwealth Games
1st Gold medal blank.svg Time trial
2nd Silver medal blank.svg Road race
Tour Down Under
1st Jersey white.svg Mountains classification
1st Stage 5
1st Stage 1 Settimana Ciclistica Internazionale
1st Stage 4 International UNIQA Classic
3rd Overall Tour de Romandie
6th Overall Tour of the Basque Country
10th Overall Paris–Nice
Giro d'Italia
Held Jersey pink.svg after Stage 15–16
...and then....all of a sudden......
You cannot discuss with Froome so called fans , idon't trust Froome , i will trust him only if he will allows me to be with him 24 hours for 365 days , dismantled the bike he uses and see if he goes to the bathroom if he dopes yes i resist to him have a sh*** , zero privacy otherwise you are a cheater for me I DO NOT BELIEVE IN MIRACLES[/quote]telencefalus said:
You cannot discuss with Froome so called fans , idon't trust Froome , i will trust him only if he will allows me to be with him 24 hours for 365 days , dismantled the bike he uses and see if he goes to the bathroom if he dopes yes i resist to him have a sh*** , zero privacy otherwise you are a cheater for me I DO NOT BELIEVE IN MIRACLES[/quote]telencefalus said:
telencefalus said:
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