ianfra said:For you who want to know, Froome was bought up in an environment that most people would have run away from...
Tell me he was a Mennonite. Pleeeeeease tell me he was a Mennonite.
I can not express how much I would love that. Truly.
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ianfra said:For you who want to know, Froome was bought up in an environment that most people would have run away from...
Taxus4a said:I have explained everything in relation to Froome in the article of my signature
Galic Ho said:Good post. Agreed. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. So many things point to people wanting doping talk to stop. BUT all that keeps occurring is more doping is being uncovered.
I think the reason Wiggins stopped was because his lease was up. Had a pass to dope and push the ABP for a while, for British cycling. His time was up. Now he's back to the old Wiggins. Froome I doubt lacks, like you said, that maturity and wisdom to know the gig is up.
ianfra said:As a decent and honest family man...
Taxus4a said:
Galic Ho said:When was any opinion on the forum listed as fact?
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leon7766 said:No hes the cycling Maradona and supporting him condones cheating
Libertine Seguros said:The guy's a pro cyclist, not a protagonist in a Dickens novel. So what if he's intelligent and sensitive and has overcome obstacles? We're judging whether or not he uses PEDs, not whether he's a nice guy.
ianfra said:Throughout this thread, I have never read so many dumb insults by people who know nothing about Froome's career.
ianfra said:For you who want to know, Froome was bought up in an environment that most people would have run away from.
hiero2 said:I have to respond to this: Many, probably most, posters on the CN forums treat their opinions as fact. Especially on the doping front. Very few EVER start with "in my opinion". Nope, its always much more sure of itself than that.
Now - having said that - we, the READERS who may also be posters have enough sense and maturity, one hopes, that we can read such opinions and realize they are opinions. And treat them as such. Unfortunately, it seems that many readers are just as set on being "right" as the many posters who post opinion as unadulterated fact.
ianfra said:"I'm really pleased he [Duenas] got caught, because it's people like him who are ruining the sport and making the racing that extra bit harder."
Did Barloworld have a doping programme?
[My opinion: Barloworld had little money. How would they pay for a doping programme?]
"Obviously there isn't - if the were Duenas would not have hidden it in his bags."
"Sadly he's put a lot of people at risk."
"People put us all in the same boat now. They see someone in the Barloworld team kit and think, 'Oh! He's probably doping'. It makes me angry but what can you do about it? The best thing is for me not to see him or I may get assault charges against me."
Guess who's words these are?
Granville57 said:I fail to see why fireworks from Froome will cause hysteria.
I pray that he lights it up this entire Tour. Clean, doped...whatever.
Entertain me, please.
ianfra said:"I'm really pleased he [Duenas] got caught, because it's people like him who are ruining the sport and making the racing that extra bit harder."
Did Barloworld have a doping programme?
[My opinion: Barloworld had little money. How would they pay for a doping programme?]
"Obviously there isn't - if there were Duenas would not have hidden it in his bags."
"Sadly he's put a lot of people at risk."
"People put us all in the same boat now. They see someone in the Barloworld team kit and think, 'Oh! He's probably doping'. It makes me angry but what can you do about it? The best thing is for me not to see him or I may get assault charges against me."
Guess who's words these are?
Libertine Seguros said:Hey airstream; a lot of the history of the Peace Race is tied in with the cobbles and Plattenwege that littered that part of Europe; is Belarus similar? Do you have any hills or cobbled stretches that could be conducive to racing? Do you ever go out towards Raubichi? What are the facilities like, could they still host international competition or do they need updating?
leon7766 said:But surely you lose all rights to have a say in the matter when you support the biggest sporting cheat since Armstrong
FoxxyBrown1111 said:I am on your side. I have read your interesting post you linked at your signature. Good job.
Even without all the knowledge you have shown in your article, i already defended Froome last year around the same time. For me his results were/are plausible if seen in context with his unusual career path. BTW: the only uneasy feeling i have with a Sky rider is Wiggins. The rest who show up in the so-called "Skyborg"-Train showed talent/and results with other teams before (example Knees finishing T-20-TdF w/Milram, Rogers multiple times T-20, EBH being a great talent early like Sagan, Porte in the Giro T-10, Sivtsov while with HTC multiple T-20 in GT´s, so was Uran, Cataldo, and so on).
And i think most guys here know i am very suspicious about sudden and stark improvements by riders in a relative high age (like Mosquera, Armstrong of course, Rominger, Rijs, to name a few). I agree mostly with the "Clinic-12-Apostel" like "hog" or "RR" for example. But i think they are a little harsh/over the line with team Sky. It´s normal that the teams with the highest payroll dominate (be it baseball or soccer, you name it). It´s called pro sports.
But: I would never guarantee Froome is totally clean. Of course at Sky they push the lines as much they can (as all the teams do). OTOH, which high paid, highly trained, or highly educated persons don´t push the lines in politics, business or sports? Welcome to the real world.
By knowing that, Froome is a deserving champ. He surely isn´t worse than those liars/ignorants and protected riders from spain like Valv-Piti, AC, SSanchez, etc.!
Conclusion: Go Froome.
expert analysis: Froome
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dope gahd rominger’s
old Madone record
going sub 31
pushing 440-460 watts
~6.5 w/kg
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much obliged
@ammattipyoraily said:@veloclinic 6.47 W/kg - 6.76 W/kg for 30 minutes. Sounds good.
@ammattipyoraily said:@neviscycles @veloclinic 440 W / 68 kg = 6.47 W/kg. 460 W / 68 kg = 6.76 W/kg.
Just a few names for you with regards to Barloworld 2008/2009, and forget Robertson, he was kicked out in 2005 if I am correct. [nevertheless I have some funny interviews with him, he talked the talk]ianfra said:[My opinion: Barloworld had little money. How would they pay for a doping programme?]
Thats the magic of marginal gains, being able to do clean what Rominger was able to do on a 56 hematocrit.TT said:https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/...11280507432960
Wonderdawg weighed 67 kg at last years Tour according to Michelle Cound.
hiero2 said:I have to respond to this: Many, probably most, posters on the CN forums treat their opinions as fact. Especially on the doping front. Very few EVER start with "in my opinion". Nope, its always much more sure of itself than that.
Now - having said that - we, the READERS who may also be posters have enough sense and maturity, one hopes, that we can read such opinions and realize they are opinions. And treat them as such. Unfortunately, it seems that many readers are just as set on being "right" as the many posters who post opinion as unadulterated fact.
Gregga said:Be patient guys...
Just wait until saturday and the first MTF, IMO (based on what he did on that little cat 3 climb last sunday) Froome will go crazy and put 30" into Contador and 1' into the others and the believers will be suddenly keep low profile.
spalco said:Nonsense. Just as you'll keep being convinced Froome is dirty, even if he fails miserably, the opposite side has no reason to reevaluate based on his performance either. Anyone who doesn't already think he's a cheater won't be persuaded so quickly.