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TourOfSardinia said:
Nibali:

compare with the Alien who's been on form since January.

I think Nibali's comment refers to the post-GT win part of his season. So far, Froome has done a few fixed crits post-Tour, so we haven't got any real post-Tour form to compare with Nibal post-Giro.

Nibs was pretty dominant in the early part of the season, beating Froome once, if memory serves.
 
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BroDeal said:
That is the key right there.

You see most of the cycling world wrote Froome off as a useless git who would never amount to anything on a bike. This was an opinion held not just by his fellow pros, team managers, and fans but Froome's own mother. Brailsford has a keen eye and saw something everyone else missed. Even though Froome was struggling to finish stages, sometimes holding onto motorcycles to make time, Brailsford noticed that the total distance Froome travelled as he zigged and zagged up the road during climbs was roughly 80% more than the distance everyone else was riding. Taking distance into account, Froome was the fastest man in a race.

Brailsford employed British ingenuity to fix the issue. He knew that a regular cycling coach could not handle a problem of this magnitude. None had ever worked with someone as monumentally incompetent at the skill of riding a bike as Froome, who made Fernando Escartin look like Fabian Cancellara. He would have to go outside of cycling to find a coach who was an expert at maintaining a straight line. That's when genius struck. Swimming! Swimmers spend hours going back and forth in a straight line. It was almost too perfect.

He hired a swim coach and a training plan was quickly devised. It consisted of forcing Froome to ride up and down a long and narrow hallway somewhere in Yorkshire. At first Froome could barely do it. He would careen off walls, banging into one side then bouncing over to crash into the other side. They had to start with but one lap per day. Any more and Brailsford was afraid Froome would injure himself. Gradually the distance was increased to two laps then three then five then ten. Slowly but surely Froome got the hang of it and learned to ride in a straight line and, just as Brailsford predicted, Froome's speed was unsurpassable.

Now you know the rest of the story.

I think sky paid too much for a coach then. In my hometown, we have a special cure to make people who go sideways to walk straight. I think the name of this particular moonshine is called "straight snake". Anyone who has a sip of it will start crawling like a snake. But if someone is fed an entire litre, then he will only walk straight.
 
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Tweak37 here's a thought - what if Froome is simply a super responder? As for sports science etc - ever heard of PDM? Or Festina? Both used the latest training methods at their disposal, paid attention to detail - PDM had their own chef, scouted hotels, were the first to use skinsuits in TTTs - and both teams doped.

That's what the super teams do, every single one of them
 

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bianchigirl said:
Tweak37 here's a thought - what if Froome is simply a super responder? As for sports science etc - ever heard of PDM? Or Festina? Both used the latest training methods at their disposal, paid attention to detail - PDM had their own chef, scouted hotels, were the first to use skinsuits in TTTs - and both teams doped.

That's what the super teams do, every single one of them

If someone told me that clean cycling means a track rider & a guy who couldn't ride straight wins the Tour I'd LOL.... :cool:
 
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... and one day Brailsford told Vroom a secret - speed keeps you straight

Then it turned out that due to his "skills" he just can't hold the line on the climbs when going so slow like Dertie et co. (that's why he kept pushing Wiggo, like a true hero, almost falling to the ditch).
 
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bianchigirl said:
Tweak37 here's a thought - what if Froome is simply a super responder? As for sports science etc - ever heard of PDM? Or Festina? Both used the latest training methods at their disposal, paid attention to detail - PDM had their own chef, scouted hotels, were the first to use skinsuits in TTTs - and both teams doped.

That's what the super teams do, every single one of them

Ever read the story of Frankenstein., he was dead until they put electric faults through his body. He then came to life and went berserk. Frightening the life out of all who crossed his path, and no one had the courage to reveal the ugly secrets of his existence.
 
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Froome Stem Dawg

FROOME LOOKING AT STEMS - about time someone took the mickey out of him !

http://chrisfroomelookingatstems.tumblr.com/?og=1 Tweeted by Thomas Frei

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'That’s just how he rides.” - Richie Porte on Chris Froome
 
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el chava said:
Tell that to Thomas Voeckler. Lots of oldschool methods or non-methods still exists in pro cycling today. My favorite is Pozzatto self-imposed celibacy before the worlds.

Pozzatto potato has not really been performing though. Most of the time his races are just riding around!
 
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This is a huge thread and I really haven't been able to read the whole of it and gauge everybody's opinion.

I would like to understand people's opinion regarding the bilharzia story a bit better.

Don't you guys think this was used as a recurrent excuse to mask any possible biological passport abnormalities? Specifically, as a gimmick to reset Froome's typical blood data as he joined Sky's spotlight in comparison to whatever his data looked like before.

I think it will actually become normal for elite athletes to start suffering from strange blood (or other) related diseases that will conveniently be used to explain doping related passport alterations.

Is this absolutely obvious or do you think his bilharzia is legitimate?
 
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rsergio007 said:
I think it will actually become normal for elite athletes to start suffering from strange blood (or other) relate diseases
Yes, how long will it be before someone tries the old congenital
vascular disorder/cerebral cavernoma defense.:D:):D
 
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rsergio007 said:
This is a huge thread and I really haven't been able to read the whole of it and gauge everybody's opinion.

I would like to understand people's opinion regarding the bilharzia story a bit better.

Don't you guys think this was used as a recurrent excuse to mask any possible biological passport abnormalities? Specifically, as a gimmick to reset Froome's typical blood data as he joined Sky's spotlight in comparison to whatever his data looked like before.

I think it will actually become normal for elite athletes to start suffering from strange blood (or other) related diseases that will conveniently be used to explain doping related passport alterations.

Is this absolutely obvious or do you think his bilharzia is legitimate?

Welcome aboard. As you have probably already fathomed there are different camps on this. Best if you book yourself out for a couple of hours in a darkened room and read the whole thread. I recommend at least 3 bottles of beer and 3 paracetamol (or stronger;)) to get you through it (and a sense of humour) good luck;)
 

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rsergio007 said:
This is a huge thread and I really haven't been able to read the whole of it and gauge everybody's opinion.

I would like to understand people's opinion regarding the bilharzia story a bit better.

Don't you guys think this was used as a recurrent excuse to mask any possible biological passport abnormalities? Specifically, as a gimmick to reset Froome's typical blood data as he joined Sky's spotlight in comparison to whatever his data looked like before.

I think it will actually become normal for elite athletes to start suffering from strange blood (or other) related diseases that will conveniently be used to explain doping related passport alterations.

Is this absolutely obvious or do you think his bilharzia is legitimate?

You need to start on the BadZhilla thread:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=21198

There you'll find all that you're looking for...
 
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thehog said:
Full of ***, don't you think? This Badzhilla thing.

There you go again hoggy, badmouthing the disabled. The Zilla is real and Froome is the real deal. BroDeal has explained why.

Skyence!

Peace ... out