Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[the sceptic]

Although you're jesting, in my opinion the success of both Wiggins and Froome is based on their very low body fat/weight. The question is how do they achieve and maintain this without any apparent drop in power or getting ill.

I wonder why they dont give Porte the slim down treatment.

 

[red_flanders]

Although you're jesting, in my opinion the success of both Wiggins and Froome is based on their very low body fat/weight. The question is how do they achieve and maintain this without any apparent drop in power or getting ill.

Not just a drop in power, but a significant increase in power. Kind of hard to believe.

 

[Pentacycle]

I wonder why they dont give Porte the slim down treatment.

How slim do you want him? When you're only 1.70m you'll always look bulkier than taller riders. Same type of rider as Evans or Leipheimer.

 

[red_flanders]

you can believe all you want he is 69 kg. that came out of his power data as well that he released.

I find it hard to believe you know his weight on the day his power was measured, at the time in the stage his power was measured.

How have you come by this information?

 

[the sceptic]

its always hillarious to read articles about Dawg on CN. They all sound like theyve been written by Baghdad Walsh.

While the Briton was dominant in the stage races last year with victories in Oman, Criterium International, Tour de Romandie, Criterium du Dauphiné and of course the Tour de France, he sees points on which he wants to get better. "I can be better tactically but that can only be obtained with more experience. Personally I need to work on reinforcing some muscles to reach an optimal performance level."

Froome sees the Tour de France as a year-by-year project. "I want to give it my best every year. That might be two years, five years, seven years or eight years. Who knows? I just want to be the best cyclist I can be and make the most of my professional career."

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I wonder why they dont give Porte the slim down treatment.

And why it failed for Evans when he tried to do it himself, properly, slowly, like you supposedly can.

Some thing(s) common between BW and CF mean it works for them (and Chicken and Schlecks) to get ridiculous, but not other people. Beyond their height, I am not seeing it. And Cancellara is apparently the same height as Froome, so why can't he do it and PWN people into the ground? But then he looks more solid - different build?

 

[Saint Unix]

And why it failed for Evans when he tried to do it himself, properly, slowly, like you supposedly can.

Some thing(s) common between BW and CF mean it works for them (and Chicken and Schlecks) to get ridiculous, but not other people. Beyond their height, I am not seeing it. And Cancellara is apparently the same height as Froome, so why can't he do it and PWN people into the ground? But then he looks more solid - different build?

Difference is, of course, that Wiggins and Froome can completely crush everyone on TTs, while the Schlecks and Rasmussen look like Bambi on ice on a time trial bike, despite all three of them being loaded with EPO.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I wonder why they dont give Porte the slim down treatment.

they have. he went from 66 kg in first year saxo to 61 kg now.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I find it hard to believe you know his weight on the day his power was measured, at the time in the stage his power was measured.

How have you come by this information?

according to his power date his weight has been consistently 68/69 kg, read out last summer by some french expert

 

[red_flanders]

according to his power date his weight has been consistently 68/69 kg, read out last summer by some french expert

His power files show his weight?

 

[gooner]

its always hillarious to read articles about Dawg on CN. They all sound like theyve been written by Baghdad Walsh.

I say if Froome said "boo" or just "Hi" you would twist into something bad and say Walsh was behind it.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

A user settable field in a power file showed "68". It must be true.

 

[blackcat]

A user settable field in a power file showed "68". It must be true.

some guys like Lance will just have a different physique, that cant ride at 66kg and 5'9".

Richie is better carrying a kg or two more muscle that an equivalent height Froome/Wigans would.

I am sure they have done the numbers.

I think the more important number is, the non-functional muscle mass. How many kgs excess in Richie carrying, compared to Froome-dawg, or Wigans-dawg.

 

[martinvickers]

Now, I don't want to come across as a major sceptic, but I think it's not unlikely Team Sky slightly altered the data.

Possibly. No evidence of it beyond conjecture, but the point i was making was rather a lot simpler. You implied you didn't think his '69kg' weight was in the public domain. I was clarifying that it was, no more, no less.

 

[vrusimov]

froome is 69 kg with 1.86. not so thin as he looks or you think. besides what ridiculous statement to think light guys can't itt or have tremendous power. you clearly know nothing of human fysiology if you think that way.

My friend, I am 5'10"[1.78m] 67-68kg and every day of my life I can see veins crawling up my fore-arms like Froome does. He is thin buddy...bony, protruding wrists and all...probably thinner than he looks, with some distance from the camera and blurring from photo quality. He has 3" on me, if not more, considering how these guys like to play with their physiology.

I won't go on about his suspicious rise to the upper echelons of cycling because frankly I don't have "considerable" time to waste. You have come to the wrong place for anarchy brother, because the general consensus in The Clinic is that Froome still has questions that need answering.

 

[dolophonic]

Yes.. i saw Froome up close at the Tour last year.. he was emaciated.. not skinny but skin and bone... this is not speculation but first hand info. Ryo i know you are a long timer but your pushing the wrong thing here.. he was beyond thin. Scary.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Yes.. i saw Froome up close at the Tour last year.. he was emaciated.. not skinny but skin and bone... this is not speculation but first hand info. Ryo i know you are a long timer but your pushing the wrong thing here.. he was beyond thin. Scary.

Totally agree. I was beside him when he signed in him at Annecy. He looked like he needed to be hospitalized he was so thin. Like he had a wasting disease.

 

[blackcat]

Totally agree. I was beside him when he signed in him at Annecy. He looked like he needed to be hospitalized he was so thin. Like he had a wasting disease.

the caloric deficit required to get so lean, and loss of muscle mass, the non-functional variety, is (i) not healthy, but (ii) not conducive to building the peak form for July.

it is like a diet of one hunger flat after one bonk after one hypoglycemic debt after one hunger flat after one bonk... ad infinitum. you get the point. you cant get to peak fitness this way.


UNLESS. you are taking something that allows you to get lean. not merely clen

 

[LaFlorecita]

Yes.. i saw Froome up close at the Tour last year.. he was emaciated.. not skinny but skin and bone... this is not speculation but first hand info. Ryo i know you are a long timer but your pushing the wrong thing here.. he was beyond thin. Scary.

Totally agree. I was beside him when he signed in him at Annecy. He looked like he needed to be hospitalized he was so thin. Like he had a wasting disease.

Good info, thanks for sharing guys.

 

[BYOP88]

If only Froome weighed a little more just imagine the power he could produce. Michelle I know you read this stuff, give him some extra food let him win the Tour by 20-30 minutes. Also get him to ride the monuments too.

 

[Race Radio]

he was emaciated.. not skinny but skin and bone...

This is what I don't get. I saw him sever times at the Tour as well and it was shocking. I can understand skinny but the zero muscle mass is what confuses me. I see several riders like this.....makes no sense. It also makes no sense that they add no weight in the off season.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

the clinic is just there to have a good laugh every now to watch guys so far stuck in their own world I doubt they even know their own names or why they watch cycling. best not taken serious

While no doubt the Clinic descends into paranoia and conspiracy sometimes...

Gabrovski, dude. Gabrovski.

 

[Scott SoCal]

This is what I don't get. I saw him sever times at the Tour as well and it was shocking. I can understand skinny but the zero muscle mass is what confuses me. I see several riders like this.....makes no sense. It also makes no sense that they add no weight in the off season.

I really like how the super-skinny dudes now can also rail the time trials. Pencil thin legs laying down all those watts.

Contador beating Cancellara at Annecy ushered in a brand new era. If only Chicken could ever have stayed on his TT bike long enough....

 

[blackcat]

While no doubt the Clinic descends into paranoia and conspiracy sometimes...

Gabrovski, dude. Gabrovski.

Dmytri Grabovsky

never lasted long in the pro ranks

 

[blackcat]

I really like how the super-skinny dudes now can also rail the time trials. Pencil thin legs laying down all those watts.

Contador beating Cancellara at Annecy ushered in a brand new era. If only Chicken could ever have stayed on his TT bike long enough....

but the year he should have won had Rabobank held firm and not taken him out, his tt was more than competent