red_flanders said:
This. So many of the Froome comments, if you could put them in a time machine and post them on any cycling forum 3 or 4 years ago, would cause mass consternation, hilarity, disbelief, and ridicule.
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This. So many of the Froome comments, if you could put them in a time machine and post them on any cycling forum 3 or 4 years ago, would cause mass consternation, hilarity, disbelief, and ridicule.
RichieTheBest said:
I have a 100% indicator that Froome isnt naturally the best.
Its funny, Froome isnt just beating all the best clean riders in history, he is beating most of the dopers as well!
Still, people believe. Blows my mind really. I assume a positive test is the only thing that can make skyfans think Froome is doping.
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the sceptic said:
who should be on the top of GT cycling lawfully from your viewpoint? the problem is no matter who comes, fans will start stating 'hey, he beats obvious dopers, froome and contador. not normal'. there's no entrance from this state of things. i prefer to think all biggest stars use the same products otherwise its no use following cycling because if this is not thecase, cycling is a clownery, not a sport with the great history.
just for the record i think any podium gt finisher uses doping
red_flanders said:
I get what you mean.
Remove the race numbers and kit and there's nothing unusual about 2 riders beating the field by a minute. It's a bike race. Someone is going to win and thereby waste 'the entire field'
You just don't believe that Froome, based on his pre 2011 performances can be that rider.
That's not unreasonable.
the sceptic said:
He's got a point though. We don't know who would be the best in a clean field. Afaic, it's about whether the rider dopes or not. In the case of froome and Contador, it's a clear yes, just like it was with Armstrong and ullrich back then. Later for who is the more talented. Nowhere near enough info to guess.
TailWindHome said:
It's partly that, it's partly how he does it. The ease is ridiculous. He's toying with people. I find it unwatchable.
It's not just froome. Froome makes it more ridiculous, due to his past and due to skys lies and due to the fact that 2 other riders capable of this just happen to be his teammates, and due to the fact that he can do it for 6 months without exhaustion and can do it even coming of illnesses and due to the fact he is lying about Bilharzia.TailWindHome said:
But on the face of it any rider winning by a minute at those speeds is going to get some suspicion simply because doping has historically provided such a boost that those without it have never been able to beat those with it, in that manner.
LaFlorecita said:
So if he doesn't catch Badzilla again, they may as well give him the Tour title now.
red_flanders said:
I find Contador far more ridiculous to watch. When on "top form " he does multiple attacks whilst they are riding at near peak power outputs until he's dropped everyone - that's why he gets so much love from fans because he's so exciting to watch. Froome does one or two attacks, gets a gap and then TT's to the finish.
bigcog said:
That is because Froome's attacks are more deadly. There is no need to attack again.
LaFlorecita said:
You've forgotten Albertos career acheivement of beating froome in catalunya already?
The Hitch said:
I feel pretty certain that Froome would be nowhere near GT winning potential in a cleans field. I dont care much about the Lance/Ullrich debate, but those two were closer than Froome and Contador imo. Froome is just a ridiculous outlier. Even Riis looks normal in comparison.
hrotha said:
I don't think that's silly at all. Riis was a far better rider throughout his career than Froome. I think people forget (or weren't around at the time).
I've never seen transformations like Froome or Wiggins. They're an order of magnitude more silly than Riis.
Wiggins is a perfect parallel for Riis.red_flanders said:
Froome at least had the decency to transform while he was still almost young.
red_flanders said:
Cycling is a relative technological backwater compared to the big money sports. It wouldn't surprise me that one team could steal a march on another team by purely legitimate means. It also wouldn't surprise me if that team stole a march on another by purely illegitimate means.
Unfortunately, you cannot apply a 'presumption of cleanliness' to a professional cyclist.
MarkvW said:
I would disagree and say cycling has actually been ahead of big money sports in terms of technology.
Too sick to do Liege but the quick healing powers of Aigle/Switserland does this to our Chhris:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rEKy83DuEw4#t=513
Yeah baby, I love it. He is worse than il Pirata. Cant help himself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rEKy83DuEw4#t=513
Yeah baby, I love it. He is worse than il Pirata. Cant help himself.
Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Unreal! That was actually better photo angles than I watched on French TV. Even more ridiculous.
Unbelievable! He absolutely has to be some sort of utterly unique human being, there is no other answer for this...
He's riding like Ricco, he crushes everyone so handily he has to sit up for a bit just to make a game of it.
Full F*cking genius.
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