Teams & Riders Froome Talk Only

[Big Doopie]

Well we know talansky is clean.

So from that we can extrapolate. He is being defrauded by riders who when doped to the gills beat him by 12 seconds.

Btw talansky fits the mold much better of GT champion in his early years than either of the first two.

 

[the sceptic]

Well we know talansky is clean.

So from that we can extrapolate. He is being defrauded by riders who when doped to the gills beat him by 12 seconds.

Btw talansky fits the mold much better of GT champion in his early years than either of the first two.

Yeah that makes sense. The clean Talansky is only losing 12 seconds to juiced to the gills Clentadorstronginduriispucchi.

 

[The Hitch]

did anyone else just see NBC's coverage of todays stage? even Bob Roll was calling BS on the inhaler thing, it was awesome.

What did he say?

 

[The_Juan]

same reason Lance has so many fans, some people just have to believe there is a miracle or a legend.

Lance had so many fans because he had an entire team of people working, for free mind you, for him making sure all the inconvenient questions were quickly dispelled or ignored.

Kind of like what is being done with Froome.

 

[zlev11]

What did he say?

he said it's ridiculous that Team Sky, the "team of transparency" has never told anyone about Froome's asthma, and that Froome's brand new autobiography doesn't mention anything about asthma at all. he was surprisingly up in arms about it, i thought he only got like that about Ricco.

he also said he e-mailed the UCI asking for an explanation.

 

[mikeoneill]

Anybody know if there's a fast-acting substance that a cyclist can take at the bottom of a climb, fast enough to give him/her an advantage but slow enough to not metabolize in time to test positive from the sample collected at the top of the mountain?

crystal meth

 

[msjett]

The OGE rider who needed an inhaler was Matt Goss from memory, and he didn't finish the race. I think that if you need a hit of your inhaler with 20km to go you wouldn't be feeling really very good at all. Let alone launch a bunch of attacks on other riders. It don't make sense to me

 

[Dear Wiggo]

The OGE rider who needed an inhaler was Matt Goss from memory, and he didn't finish the race. I think that if you need a hit of your inhaler with 20km to go you wouldn't be feeling really very good at all. Let alone launch a bunch of attacks on other riders. It don't make sense to me

Yeah that's the bit that doesn't add up for me. Cruising in the peloton on the flats behind a full complement of team mates? Dayam I need a puff of me inhaler.

Smashing the best climbers at the end of the stage for 10km? It's all good, no problemo.

 

[thehog]

The OGE rider who needed an inhaler was Matt Goss from memory, and he didn't finish the race. I think that if you need a hit of your inhaler with 20km to go you wouldn't be feeling really very good at all. Let alone launch a bunch of attacks on other riders. It don't make sense to me

Yes Goss went back to the team car and it dropped to the road. That's why they were looking for another one. He dropped out.

Gerrans in 2013 had asthma at the TDU which caused a loss of time.

When the Dawg has asthma he gains 50watts.

 

[msjett]

Yes Goss went back to the team car and it dropped to the road. That's why they were looking for another one. He dropped out.

Gerrans in 2013 had asthma at the TDU which caused a loss of time.

When the Dawg has asthma he gains 50watts.

It seems more plausible that if you require an inhaler of ventolin or the like you are feeling pretty bad and you possibly would drop back out of the lead and lose time or even out of the race.

Why aren't the press all over this? I would love to see if Froome and his lady go full Armstrong defence???

 

[42x16ss]

And none of you saw it this time either. You had to have it pointed out to you by someone on twitter.

Yep, sure did...

 

[BYOP88]

It seems more plausible that if you require an inhaler of ventolin or the like you are feeling pretty bad and you possibly would drop back out of the lead and lose time or even out of the race.

Why aren't the press all over this? I would love to see if Froome and his lady go full Armstrong defence???

I'm hoping we get the 'I was close to death, you think I'm going to put drugs in my body to win a bike race'.

 

[msjett]

I'm hoping we get the 'I was close to death, you think I'm going to put drugs in my body to win a bike race'.

lol.......

 

[yespatterns]

Abby links to a clip of Bob's commentary on the inhaler? I had to work so couldn't follow anything. ;(

 

[Ripper]

Yes Goss went back to the team car and it dropped to the road. That's why they were looking for another one. He dropped out.

Gerrans in 2013 had asthma at the TDU which caused a loss of time.

When the Dawg has asthma he gains 50watts.

Dawg is just mentally stronger than the rest Hoggy

More seriously, the whole inhaler thing is a non issue. There are so many issues about Froome I've lost count, but this is not one.

 

[Ripper]

On the topic of Froome, are some folks still trying to defend him as clean in the Clinic? There have been some pretty entertaining posts under the race stories, talking about Froome just being talented, working harder, having stronger mental fortitude, etc. Sound familiar?

 

[rhubroma]

Not to my eye he didn't. Countered every move by Froome easily. Tried but couldn't pass him at the end though I will cede.

At full gas in the last 500 meters, Contador was seeing stars and was about to loose a couple of meters, but hung on for dear life. This was after, of course, Froome pulled the whole climb and chased down the other attacks. This what is normally called alien. And the only reason the Briton didn't solo for the win, was because he had the resilient Spaniard on his wheel, thus had to relent and this gave the others time to get back on. Still Froome was bludgeoning them.

Contador needed to demonstrate to himself, I think, that Froome could not drop him. Mission accomplished. But how will he figure out a way to drop him?

 

[Franklin]

I'm at a loss here people. Scienceiscool and I are both riders who have asthma. It's NOT hindering us. Indeed, my doctor said it's more or less helping me. Scienceiscool stated he uses a puffer in a race with no significant problems.

Yet somehow you guys go on how an Asthmatic can not perform and how it is impossible to inhale during a race. Also, you guys make it out as if Froom is going redline when he puffs when he just sits in the wheel. Considering the size of that group you can be sure he's way below his treshold and thus getting a deep breath shouldn't be an issue.

And no, neither Scienceiscool nor me are very sympathetic to this guy. But once again something pretty harmless is being blown up. Asthma is a blanket term for bronchidal inflammation with several causes and several profiles. Some people need a puffer several times a day, others never have to touch one.

 

[Miburo]

Wow i'm stunned, belgian newspaper is calling out Froome on the fact that he never mentioned the astma issue in his book.

 

[Digger]

Wow i'm stunned, belgian newspaper is calling out Froome on the fact that he never mentioned the astma issue in his book.

name of the paper?
Awesome!

 

[Miburo]

name of the paper?
Awesome!

Het Laatste Nieuws, surprised they did it. But they're actually really implying doping in the article.

There's better material than this though, this is prob a non-issue, i wonder if someone is gonna dig a bit deeper.

 

[Carstenbf]

To me this looked like cleaner cycling then we've seen in the past.

(to me it looked like one guy is 10-15% better than the rest, to be able to win like that, just saying)

 

[Nathan12]

It has started, like it started with Armstrong. I don't think this story will be as resilient.

 

[Miburo]

I remember that people said you can't compare sky with uspostal since there're no doping cases or other things like us postal had.

Granted they said that last year, things have changed.

The biggest issue imo is still Leinders. That's a pretty big red flag.

 

[sittingbison]

On the topic of Froome, are some folks still trying to defend him as clean in the Clinic? There have been some pretty entertaining posts under the race stories, talking about Froome just being talented, working harder, having stronger mental fortitude, etc. Sound familiar?

remember thaat in the PRR forum clinic related comments are not allowed, so some of that will be coded to mean "doper"