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happychappy

happychappy

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Granville57 said:
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deeno1975

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No crazy egg beater sprint today from Froome but he has the tactical nuance of a gnat! Still came second though.

Will be interesting to see if he gets stronger as the tour goes on as...
 
Cycle Chic

Cycle Chic

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deeno1975 said:
No crazy egg beater sprint today from Froome but he has the tactical nuance of a gnat! Still came second though.

Will be interesting to see if he gets stronger as the tour goes on as...
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It,ll be interesting to see if 'Inhalergate' has anything to do this.
 
SeriousSam

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He will definitely get stronger relative to Valverde, as will Contador and Quintana. The question is whether he'll get stronger than Contador and whether Quintana can close the gap.

I'm slightly disappointed we didn't see a seated cadence attack but the climb just wasn't long enough.
 
Archibald

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no sign of the inhaler yet then...

funny nose plugs - I guess that the Contador nasal strips were just sooo 2007
 
Granville57

Granville57

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Archibald said:
funny nose plugs - I guess that the Contador nasal strips were just sooo 2007
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Along with mouth breathing. :rolleyes:

Also, why use a product that other athletes have used effectively for years when there is a more expensive, and more ridiculous looking option right under their...well, you see where I'm going.


And don't forget about the science behind all of this. "Science."

THE SCIENCE OF BREATHING

During periods of heavy exertion, such as exercise, our bodies demand more oxygen to maintain the increased energy output required.
http://www.rhinomed.com.au/products/turbine.html
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The things we learn. :eek:
 
SeriousSam

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Froome's sprinting is improving. I project him to overtake Cavendish as Great Britain's best sprinter within 2 years.
 
BYOP88

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Froome's sprinting is improving. I project him to overtake Cavendish as Great Britain's best sprinter within 2 years.
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Sadly it seems he's forgotten how to 'sprint' up hill though. :(
 
mrhender

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BYOP88 said:
Sadly it seems he's forgotten how to 'sprint' up hill though. :(
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I can't decide if he's over-anxious or over-eager... I'd go with a mix of those...

I do think you may have a point..

Mabe he is finally aware of his own cababilties and limitations...
That could explain why he's reaching for pennies and not pounds...

The day he chrashed in Daphiné he became human..
it reminded him of his vulnerability and now he is insecure wanting for a sign of his supremacy that might never come...

I'd say that honeymoon is over and he does not any longer have the power to destroy his contestants...
 
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Dr. Juice

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mrhender said:
I can't decide if he's over-anxious or over-eager... I'd go with a mix of those...

I do think you may have a point..

Mabe he is finally aware of his own cababilties and limitations...
That could explain why he's reaching for pennies and not pounds...

The day he chrashed in Daphiné he became human..
it reminded him of his vulnerability and now he is insecure wanting for a sign of his supremacy that might never come...

I'd say that honeymoon is over and he does not any longer have the power to destroy his contestants...
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I think people overestimate him from time to time. He is a very strong GT rider, one of the 3 best out there, but he is not the " superhuman" some people claim.
Last year he put in a dominant performance on Ventoux and Ax3 while having a similar power output on the climbs as Nibali this year. It was a year everything went right. Plenty of people have dominated 1 GT because everything fit perfectly and they had the form of their life ( like Froome had last year) . Off form Contador plus putting the hammer down when Rodriguez and Quintana were not at their best yet. Plus his TT ability.

That doesn't diminish his victory in itself, he could not do more than what he has done. He has a spectacular attack which impresses people because no one attacked at 110 rpm before. In the end it's just a different form of attacking. 1 GT where he was clearly the strongest ( 2013) , 1 which might have been close (2012) and 1 where he was marginally stronger than Cobo and Wiggins ( 2011).
He is a strong GT rider and at his absolute prime , but he also has shown his weaknesses and isn't " incredibly strong" like the best of Pantani, Armstrong, Indurain, Hinault or Contador.

Froome might win another couple GT's which would make him one of the best riders of his generation but he is not "phenomenal".

When you saw Tonkov at the 1998 Giro keeping up with Pantani in almost every mountain you could have believed he is another "great one". But in the end he was "just" one of the best of his generation.
 
Rollthedice

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I think people overestimate him from time to time. He is a very strong GT rider, one of the 3 best out there, but he is not the " superhuman" some people claim.
Last year he put in a dominant performance on Ventoux and Ax3 while having a similar power output on the climbs as Nibali this year. It was a year everything went right. Plenty of people have dominated 1 GT because everything fit perfectly and they had the form of their life ( like Froome had last year) . Off form Contador plus putting the hammer down when Rodriguez and Quintana were not at their best yet. Plus his TT ability.

That doesn't diminish his victory in itself, he could not do more than what he has done. He has a spectacular attack which impresses people because no one attacked at 110 rpm before. In the end it's just a different form of attacking. 1 GT where he was clearly the strongest ( 2013) , 1 which might have been close (2012) and 1 where he was marginally stronger than Cobo and Wiggins ( 2011).
He is a strong GT rider and at his absolute prime , but he also has shown his weaknesses and isn't " incredibly strong" like the best of Pantani, Armstrong, Indurain, Hinault or Contador.

Froome might win another couple GT's which would make him one of the best riders of his generation but he is not "phenomenal".

When you saw Tonkov at the 1998 Giro keeping up with Pantani in almost every mountain you could have believed he is another "great one". But in the end he was "just" one of the best of his generation.
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A rider who comes out of nowhere and practically overnight almost wins Vuelta (in fact he was the strongest, lost it due to bonus seconds) then goes on to climb as fast as Armstrong, has to hit the breaks on corners on Ventoux in a 242 Km stage with four categorized climbs before and time trials "marginally" slower than the TT world champion will never convince me he is clean, regardless of how he looks this year. Which ain't over yet.
 
Cycle Chic

Cycle Chic

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At 1.8kms to go Froome threw something from his rear pocket....it bounced out of the roadside gutter - it was white...wonder what it was...

inhaler ?? plastic bottle ? why throw somethng out which was so small !
 
Granville57

Granville57

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Cycle Chic said:
At 1.8kms to go Froome threw something from his rear pocket....it bounced out of the roadside gutter - it was white...wonder what it was...

inhaler ?? plastic bottle ? why throw somethng out which was so small !
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It was small.
It was white.
It bounced.

Mystery solved. :(

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Dr. Juice

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Rollthedice said:
A rider who comes out of nowhere and practically overnight almost wins Vuelta (in fact he was the strongest, lost it due to bonus seconds) then goes on to climb as fast as Armstrong, has to hit the breaks on corners on Ventoux in a 242 Km stage with four categorized climbs before and time trials "marginally" slower than the TT world champion will never convince me he is clean, regardless of how he looks this year. Which ain't over yet.
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Of course he isn't clean. I just responded to the "superhuman" thing. And surely his transformation within half a year is even worse than Riis.

Regarding Ventoux remember he dropped Quintana by 29 seconds who had attacked before. Plus on a 60 (!) minutes climb just 5 km/h wind difference can make up for a lot of time. All times were quite fast. From everyone that day.
I just wanted to say that we've seen better performances in the past. Basically Nibali this year could have responded to Froome on Ventoux when you look at wattage. Best of Contador would've outclimbed him hands down.
2 dominant mountain displays ( Ax3 second one) doesn't make a rider an alien. It was just the combination of the form of his life plus sub-par opponents for different reasons. You won't see any further dominant performances anymore in the future. He is not that great.

I don't think anyone has a wrong perception regarding doping. He isn't clean just like Nibali and Contador aren't. And most of the top GT riders.
 
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