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Dear Wiggo said:
Yes of course. Physiologically forgettable but harder-working-than-everyone else Froome all of a sudden decides to try for once, at the Vuelta, having spent 3 years in the pro peloton just dicking around.

Seems legit.

Good grief.

They said the same thing about Wiggins.

I didn't believe it then either.

You need always a progresion, but despite what you say day by day, he got important results and performances before that Vuelta, especially, as I said, in 2008, Froome exploded in his 4th year in Europe, not in his 8th. even if he exclude Bilharzia, could maje sense.
 
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blackcat said:
Dalakhani said:
Froome is doing the Vuelta, starting a week on Saturday.

I seem to recall him promising to be tested by independent experts before the Vuelta. Has that happened yet?

ofcourse!

Cound set to it.
except she booked the wrong Italian hotel for it...
 
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Anyone know why he's doing the Vuelta?

That's just bizarre in this era.

My odds we'll see him after stage 1 are 1/10.
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
42x16ss said:
It was actually his 5th. Froome was at Konica Minolta and the World Cycling Centre for 2007.

Kinja apparently started coaching him when he was 13.

Sorry, I meant 5th year in Europe. Taxus was saying 2011 was his 4th.
 
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42x16ss said:
Dear Wiggo said:
42x16ss said:
It was actually his 5th. Froome was at Konica Minolta and the World Cycling Centre for 2007.

Kinja apparently started coaching him when he was 13.

Sorry, I meant 5th year in Europe. Taxus was saying 2011 was his 4th.

Yes well the maths thing can be hard sometimes.

Still amazes me that a 13 year old had a cycling mentor and was still crap at 21 -- nowhere near a podium at a Pick n Pay Argus.

Hinault my left hairy big toe.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
Anyone know why he's doing the Vuelta?

That's just bizarre in this era.

My odds we'll see him after stage 1 are 1/10.

My guess is he's getting greedy.

He wants to be legendary now.
He'll win the vuelta and do the giro next year, so he can hold the title of all 3 GTs at the same time and be a member of the club that Nibs and Alberto are in.
 
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Guess Froomey is training extra on his TT bike as we speak:

kimmage.jpg


Or, will he use the Vuelta for training to at least once complete a Word Championship's race?
 
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Dear Wiggo said:
42x16ss said:
Dear Wiggo said:
42x16ss said:
It was actually his 5th. Froome was at Konica Minolta and the World Cycling Centre for 2007.

Kinja apparently started coaching him when he was 13.

Sorry, I meant 5th year in Europe. Taxus was saying 2011 was his 4th.

Yes well the maths thing can be hard sometimes.

Still amazes me that a 13 year old had a cycling mentor and was still crap at 21 -- nowhere near a podium at a Pick n Pay Argus.

Hinault my left hairy big toe.

Who likened Froome to Hinault?! That's even more disgraceful than defending his doping!!
 
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King Boonen said:
Who likened Froome to Hinault?! That's even more disgraceful than defending his doping!!

http://www.skysports.com/cycling/news/15264/9927438/chris-froome-the-rough-diamond-who-won-the-tour-de-france-twice

"We did a physiological test on every rider who comes to the world centre. I can confirm that, during all the time that I was at the world centre, he had the biggest physical and physiological potential that came our way.

"All the potential was evident in the very first physical and physiological tests that we could do: enormous. It was enormous. It fell within the norms that we understood of Bernard Hinault in his day. On that level, it was the same.

"As for his technical background, he was very behind compared with athletes of the same level in Europe, and that was his handicap during these years.
When u have the backing of the UCI all will be fine, untill...

Michel Thèze is the name.
 
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After a quick search I have been unable to find something written in french where Theze is reported saying that Froome had a physiology as great as Hinault. Maybe it was in another language.
In that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn91THNtSm0 interview in french he is saying that he needed to improve his rider abilities.... but do we need them to race in front on a col?
And he had tested his VO2max. How Froome could has forgotten that point? Can we have the results of those tests or should they stay secret? Why?
 
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poupou said:
After a quick search I have been unable to find something written in french where Theze is reported saying that Froome had a physiology as great as Hinault. Maybe it was in another language.
In that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn91THNtSm0 interview in french he is saying that he needed to improve his rider abilities.... but do we need them to race in front on a col?
And he had tested his VO2max. How Froome could has forgotten that point? Can we have the results of those tests or should they stay secret? Why?
I read that his VO2 was between 80 and 85, somewhere in an interview with Kinjah I think
Froome confirms that here:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/paul-kimmage-chris-froome-in-the-eye-of-the-storm-part-2-30394950.html


CF: I’ve done one VO2 test I think in 2007 with the UCI school (in Aigle). The results were online - I think my VO2 was between 80 and 85, and that would have been at about 70 kilos. VO2 is weight specific, so take away 4 kilos and that could possibly raise it I guess, I don’t know.

Also of note is that he estimates himself at 66 kilos
 
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Gung Ho Gun said:
poupou said:
After a quick search I have been unable to find something written in french where Theze is reported saying that Froome had a physiology as great as Hinault. Maybe it was in another language.
In that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn91THNtSm0 interview in french he is saying that he needed to improve his rider abilities.... but do we need them to race in front on a col?
And he had tested his VO2max. How Froome could has forgotten that point? Can we have the results of those tests or should they stay secret? Why?
I read that his VO2 was between 80 and 85, somewhere in an interview with Kinjah I think
Froome confirms that here:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/paul-kimmage-chris-froome-in-the-eye-of-the-storm-part-2-30394950.html


CF: I’ve done one VO2 test I think in 2007 with the UCI school (in Aigle). The results were online - I think my VO2 was between 80 and 85, and that would have been at about 70 kilos. VO2 is weight specific, so take away 4 kilos and that could possibly raise it I guess, I don’t know.

Also of note is that he estimates himself at 66 kilos
I'm surprised that he guesses his weight. I'm not a pro and I know my weight within 0.2 kg, depending on the day. I would say I'm 50.2kg, with a margin of error of 0.2. If a pro cyclist just goes 'yeah I think I'm about 66' it is quite weird, especially if he rides in a team which pride themselves in scientific accuracy.
 
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Taxus4a said:
You can read in my article my opinion, I cant put here the link by rules, but it is in my signature of my profile. I dindt write it with any own purpose, just to can answer with arguments to a lot of people that think like you,a nd not to be always writting the same long explanations.
Is this you?
https://twitter.com/ukcyclingexpert


Your Taxus account is even funnier, though.
 
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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Guess Froomey is training extra on his TT bike as we speak:

kimmage.jpg


Or, will he use the Vuelta for training to at least once complete a Word Championship's race?

World's is in the US this year. Dawg don't want no part of being tested by USADA. (I assume Cookie's cleans new UCI won't forbid USADA from testing on its own turf???)
 
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Mr.38% said:
Taxus4a said:
You can read in my article my opinion, I cant put here the link by rules, but it is in my signature of my profile. I dindt write it with any own purpose, just to can answer with arguments to a lot of people that think like you,a nd not to be always writting the same long explanations.
Is this you?
https://twitter.com/ukcyclingexpert


Your Taxus account is even funnier, though.

I dont have twitter, although somebody ask me.

Great Britain is not a country that I like a lot, I am more of Ecuador and things like that. Great Britain is an imperilist country that have Assange not allowed to be in his streets free, and of course, I dont like the people that are behind a media as SKY.

I dont know the reason you could have though I could be that twitter :confused:

About the cycling team, there are things I dont like and things to admire.

I just try to be objetive and analyse cycling, usually heritage and cycling.

I dont know if with your post you are kidding me on or what...
 
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Gung Ho Gun said:
poupou said:
After a quick search I have been unable to find something written in french where Theze is reported saying that Froome had a physiology as great as Hinault. Maybe it was in another language.
In that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn91THNtSm0 interview in french he is saying that he needed to improve his rider abilities.... but do we need them to race in front on a col?
And he had tested his VO2max. How Froome could has forgotten that point? Can we have the results of those tests or should they stay secret? Why?
I read that his VO2 was between 80 and 85, somewhere in an interview with Kinjah I think
Froome confirms that here:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/paul-kimmage-chris-froome-in-the-eye-of-the-storm-part-2-30394950.html

CF: I’ve done one VO2 test I think in 2007 with the UCI school (in Aigle). The results were online - I think my VO2 was between 80 and 85, and that would have been at about 70 kilos. VO2 is weight specific, so take away 4 kilos and that could possibly raise it I guess, I don’t know.

Also of note is that he estimates himself at 66 kilos


I see you didnt read all my article, i am not allowed to put the link, but I am going to copy and post some part about that issues:

By the way of this it is very interesting to read this article:

http://www.letelegramme.com/sports/cyclisme/tour-de-france/tour-et-detours-froome-forme-par-un-breton-11-07-2012-1770919.php

It said things that are of interest:

"Tactiquement, il n'était pas du tout bon. Mais il était puissant, endurant faisait et tout en force . C'est ainsi qu'il avait d'ailleurs gagné cette Mi-Aout, mais sans démarrages répondre aux in revenant toujours " , raconte Thèze.

Michel Thèze étonné n'est pas vraiment. " quand il était trop Même lourd, déjà grimpait il . Un peu comme Hushovd. Et il avait one gros, gros moteur. Tous au connus j'ai ceux that CMC, il est celui qui avait avec les meilleurs tests will Tunisien Chtioui, aujourd'hui chez Europcar, et l'Erythréen Teklehaimanot, GreenEdge pour qui court. Mais ne suffit one gros moteur pas. Lui, en plus, I endowed est d'une volonté colossale . Ses Dès debuts, je l'avais compris. Il ne jamais is décourageait. "

So maybe yes, he has a similar engine to Hinault.
 
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Uhm was that a response directed at me?

De tous ceux que j'ai connus au CMC, il est celui qui avait les meilleurs tests avec le Tunisien Chtioui, aujourd'hui chez Europcar, et l'Erythréen Teklehaimanot, qui court pour GreenEdge
Getting mentioned in the same sentence as those two does not sound like Hinault to me
 
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Gung Ho Gun said:
Uhm was that a response directed at me?

De tous ceux que j'ai connus au CMC, il est celui qui avait les meilleurs tests avec le Tunisien Chtioui, aujourd'hui chez Europcar, et l'Erythréen Teklehaimanot, qui court pour GreenEdge
Getting mentioned in the same sentence as those two does not sound like Hinault to me

No sorry, I know it looks like that...
 
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poupou said:
After a quick search I have been unable to find something written in french where Theze is reported saying that Froome had a physiology as great as Hinault. Maybe it was in another language.
In that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn91THNtSm0 interview in french he is saying that he needed to improve his rider abilities.... but do we need them to race in front on a col?
And he had tested his VO2max. How Froome could has forgotten that point? Can we have the results of those tests or should they stay secret? Why?
So, are you saying one of Rupert Murdochs companies, Sky Sports - are they in any way connected to Team Sky, rethoric question - are bending the words of Michel Theze with regards to Froome having the same psysique to a REAL grand champion like Hinault?

Interesting...

FFS. We have Froome saying he had a VO2Max of 80-85 at that famous Michel Theze institutue. Now way in hell with that kinda VO2 he could transform to what he is now, only if he has transgendered to a VO3 max.

Wake up.

Please show me one non British source where Theze states Froome has the same psysique as Hinault.
 
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Taxus4a said:
Mr.38% said:
Taxus4a said:
You can read in my article my opinion, I cant put here the link by rules, but it is in my signature of my profile. I dindt write it with any own purpose, just to can answer with arguments to a lot of people that think like you,a nd not to be always writting the same long explanations.
Is this you?
https://twitter.com/ukcyclingexpert


Your Taxus account is even funnier, though.

I dont have twitter, although somebody ask me.

Great Britain is not a country that I like a lot, I am more of Ecuador and things like that. Great Britain is an imperilist country that have Assange not allowed to be in his streets free, and of course, I dont like the people that are behind a media as SKY.

I dont know the reason you could have though I could be that twitter :confused:

About the cycling team, there are things I dont like and things to admire.

I just try to be objetive and analyse cycling, usually heritage and cycling.

I dont know if with your post you are kidding me on or what...

The problem with making statements like the above in bold is that they come across as bigoted.
Especially when they are factually incorrect. Assange has taken asylum because the Swedish police have an extradition warranty for him in relation to sex offences the Swedish claim he committed. Nothing to do with the British. Assange just has the misfortune to be iin a country with a reciprocal extradition treaty with Sweden. Assange has taken asylum because he fears the Swedes will extradite him to the US (not the British)

As for the people behind Sky, they are Australian ;)

As a by-product of the British Empire I'm amused by your claim that Britain is an Imperialist country. Unless I'm mistaken, my country was granted independence some time ago, as were all the countries of any size. Just Gibraltar left now. It pisses the Spanish off, but they don't seem to have any qualms about keeping hold of their territories in North Africa.
 
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wendybnt said:
The problem with making statements like the above in bold is that they come across as bigoted.
Dont worry Wendyaochim, we know how to handle bigots over here.

And guys, next time make a screenshot when he starts talking Dutch again.

:eek:
 
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Ah, I forgot about the Falklands and I've got to admit I didn't know they still had those little islands.

Anyway, back on topic, if it wasn't for the British Empire there would have never been a Froome :D