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Rollthedice said:the sceptic said:The myth of The Dawg..
The word first began to spread about a talented white kid from South Africa* when I was riding with British Cycling’s academy in Tuscany.
He was racing as part of the UCI’s [Union Cycliste Internationale] team set-up at the World Cycling Centre in Switzerland, an academy for riders from lesser-known cycling countries. Coming up against him, two things were immediately obvious: this lad’s got a huge engine, but he handles a bike like he sat on one for the first time a week ago. He was a lovely chap – friendly, fiercely determined and as innocent as a schoolgirl. He knew nothing of cycling’s history. He knew nothing of cycling’s present. At dinner during the Tour Méditerranéen we were chewing over the day’s stage. ‘Who’s that Cofidis guy? He looks pretty good.’ ‘Yup, that’s David Moncoutié. Lots of big results. And he won it.’ ‘Oh.’ The Tour of Oman, 2013, first stage. ‘Who was that Astana guy? He’s quick!’ ‘Mate, it’s [Vincenzo] Nibali.’
It was rather endearing. Even now you can confuse the hello out of him by talking about Jérôme Pineau and Thibaut Pinot. One spring I found him looking somewhat put out. ‘I can’t believe I’m having to do this Roubaix thing. There’s a race in Portugal I really fancy.’ ‘You want to miss the biggest one-day race in the world?’ ‘Why? Where’s that?’ So Froome was different, in his background, his development, his outlook. Over dinner he would casually tell me stories about being chased by hippos and being locked by his brother in a pen full of angry ostriches. That doesn’t happen in Cardiff.
I was both amazed by him and seriously concerned. He would always totally commit to the team, try to do what was asked and more. In the manic sprints of the Tour Down Under he’d do a long, strong pull at the front and swing over. Then, two kilometres later he’d suddenly be back, dive-bombing most of his team-mates to get on the front and help again. ‘Froomey, good job but leave it to us now.’ At times it was like watching a Clio with the engine of a Ferrari. There was the sense when you rode with him that anything could happen, that all of that raw talent could be blown through some daft accident.
I assume this is written by the future Tour winner, Thomas? We want more stories about being chased by hippos.
Yay, more revisionist historythe sceptic said:The myth of The Dawg..
The word first began to spread about a talented white kid from South Africa* when I was riding with British Cycling’s academy in Tuscany.
He was racing as part of the UCI’s [Union Cycliste Internationale] team set-up at the World Cycling Centre in Switzerland, an academy for riders from lesser-known cycling countries. Coming up against him, two things were immediately obvious: this lad’s got a huge engine, but he handles a bike like he sat on one for the first time a week ago. He was a lovely chap – friendly, fiercely determined and as innocent as a schoolgirl. He knew nothing of cycling’s history. He knew nothing of cycling’s present. At dinner during the Tour Méditerranéen we were chewing over the day’s stage. ‘Who’s that Cofidis guy? He looks pretty good.’ ‘Yup, that’s David Moncoutié. Lots of big results. And he won it.’ ‘Oh.’ The Tour of Oman, 2013, first stage. ‘Who was that Astana guy? He’s quick!’ ‘Mate, it’s [Vincenzo] Nibali.’
It was rather endearing. Even now you can confuse the hello out of him by talking about Jérôme Pineau and Thibaut Pinot. One spring I found him looking somewhat put out. ‘I can’t believe I’m having to do this Roubaix thing. There’s a race in Portugal I really fancy.’ ‘You want to miss the biggest one-day race in the world?’ ‘Why? Where’s that?’ So Froome was different, in his background, his development, his outlook. Over dinner he would casually tell me stories about being chased by hippos and being locked by his brother in a pen full of angry ostriches. That doesn’t happen in Cardiff.
I was both amazed by him and seriously concerned. He would always totally commit to the team, try to do what was asked and more. In the manic sprints of the Tour Down Under he’d do a long, strong pull at the front and swing over. Then, two kilometres later he’d suddenly be back, dive-bombing most of his team-mates to get on the front and help again. ‘Froomey, good job but leave it to us now.’ At times it was like watching a Clio with the engine of a Ferrari. There was the sense when you rode with him that anything could happen, that all of that raw talent could be blown through some daft accident.
Are you joking? What has knowing something about cycling or not got to do with talent? You are born with talent it doesn't appear. There are plenty of people out there who know lots about bikes but have zero talent as well there are hundreds of people out there with the talent to win the tour who don't know it. Froome was just lucky to discover his talent.Gung Ho Gun said:What an odd coincidence that someone who doesn't know a thing about cycling and can't ride a bike turns out to be one of the most talented cyclists ever
the sceptic said:The myth of The Dawg..
The word first began to spread about a talented white kid from South Africa* when I was riding with British Cycling’s academy in Tuscany.
He was racing as part of the UCI’s [Union Cycliste Internationale] team set-up at the World Cycling Centre in Switzerland, an academy for riders from lesser-known cycling countries. Coming up against him, two things were immediately obvious: this lad’s got a huge engine, but he handles a bike like he sat on one for the first time a week ago. He was a lovely chap – friendly, fiercely determined and as innocent as a schoolgirl. He knew nothing of cycling’s history. He knew nothing of cycling’s present. At dinner during the Tour Méditerranéen we were chewing over the day’s stage. ‘Who’s that Cofidis guy? He looks pretty good.’ ‘Yup, that’s David Moncoutié. Lots of big results. And he won it.’ ‘Oh.’ The Tour of Oman, 2013, first stage. ‘Who was that Astana guy? He’s quick!’ ‘Mate, it’s [Vincenzo] Nibali.’
It was rather endearing. Even now you can confuse the hello out of him by talking about Jérôme Pineau and Thibaut Pinot. One spring I found him looking somewhat put out. ‘I can’t believe I’m having to do this Roubaix thing. There’s a race in Portugal I really fancy.’ ‘You want to miss the biggest one-day race in the world?’ ‘Why? Where’s that?’ So Froome was different, in his background, his development, his outlook. Over dinner he would casually tell me stories about being chased by hippos and being locked by his brother in a pen full of angry ostriches. That doesn’t happen in Cardiff.
I was both amazed by him and seriously concerned. He would always totally commit to the team, try to do what was asked and more. In the manic sprints of the Tour Down Under he’d do a long, strong pull at the front and swing over. Then, two kilometres later he’d suddenly be back, dive-bombing most of his team-mates to get on the front and help again. ‘Froomey, good job but leave it to us now.’ At times it was like watching a Clio with the engine of a Ferrari. There was the sense when you rode with him that anything could happen, that all of that raw talent could be blown through some daft accident.
Ramon Koran said:Are you joking? What has knowing something about cycling or not got to do with talent? You are born with talent it doesn't appear. There are plenty of people out there who know lots about bikes but have zero talent as well there are hundreds of people out there with the talent to win the tour who don't know it. Froome was just lucky to discover his talent.Gung Ho Gun said:What an odd coincidence that someone who doesn't know a thing about cycling and can't ride a bike turns out to be one of the most talented cyclists ever
Nice choice of wordsRamon Koran said:You are born with talent it doesn't appear.Gung Ho Gun said:What an odd coincidence that someone who doesn't know a thing about cycling and can't ride a bike turns out to be one of the most talented cyclists ever
The Tour of Oman, 2013, first stage. ‘Who was that Astana guy? He’s quick!’ ‘Mate, it’s [Vincenzo] Nibali.’
The Hitch said:Nice choice of wordsRamon Koran said:You are born with talent it doesn't appear.Gung Ho Gun said:What an odd coincidence that someone who doesn't know a thing about cycling and can't ride a bike turns out to be one of the most talented cyclists ever
thehog said:The Hitch said:Nice choice of wordsRamon Koran said:You are born with talent it doesn't appear.Gung Ho Gun said:What an odd coincidence that someone who doesn't know a thing about cycling and can't ride a bike turns out to be one of the most talented cyclists ever
Good work Hitch, looks like these books are following the Walsh blueprint.
It appears they are trying to map Froome into being green and that's why he didn't win many races before he became super Dawg. Even when he started going fast he still had a lot to learn. Nothing to do with drugs or anything else, he just had to learn to ride a bike properly.
No but before hé didnt pay attention now he does hence he personnaly improves. Of course contador and nibali pay attention to rivals but they have been doing it for years. That's maybe why froome catch up. Of course I don't know if it is a huge advantage but definitely a little advantage a "marginal gain" if you wantsnccdcno said:Putting aside that I don't think that is actually particularly helpful why would he have a huge advantage? Because everyone else isn't paying attention to any of that stuff as they are drinking coffee or whatever.
LaFlorecita said:I am not *100%* sure but I'd say most pros only turn pro at 21-22. So Froome is not that different.
No I'm not, I'm just using commons sense knowing about your opponents is useful in a race I believe but maybe you know otherwise.Dear Wiggo said:lollercopters.
People who have never thrown a leg over a top tube telling us all about the strageties and the tic tacs.
trollercopters.