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Anderis

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I think they want to excel in TTT. If they feel he is one of the very best time-trialists in the team ATM, there's no point of sending someone other just to finish the Tour. It doesn't seem like any very useful rider will stay at home due to that anyway.
 
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pastronef

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theyoungest said:
That would be even more opportunistic. 'We don't wanna ruin him, we just need him for the TTT.'
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@tourdejose says the same, until 1st rest day

If he's needed to win the TTT, why not? Garmin cannot win the Tour, they can take any opportunity they get to shine and get stage wins.
 
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Vaughters confirms: no DZ

https://mobile.twitter.com/Vaughters/status/349432391414185984?p=v
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Now we just need someone to confirm the whole team one at a time, garmin last team to be announced. :(

What is the best Garmin can hope for? I think one of Martin, Hesjedal or Talansky could be top 10. Yellow and and controlling a day seems far fetched, so stage hunters and TTT after that?

There are loads of options, but none really jump out. Even with the strongest Team going can they win the TTT? Then start looking at potential breaks and stage winners, or give some of the younger guys a taste.
Personally I'd probably go for Farrar, Hunter, Navadauskas, Millar, van summeren, and danielson.
 
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Now we just need someone to confirm the whole team one at a time, garmin last team to be announced. :(

What is the best Garmin can hope for? I think one of Martin, Hesjedal or Talansky could be top 10. Yellow and and controlling a day seems far fetched, so stage hunters and TTT after that?

There are loads of options, but none really jump out. Even with the strongest Team going can they win the TTT? Then start looking at potential breaks and stage winners, or give some of the younger guys a taste.
Personally I'd probably go for Farrar, Hunter, Navadauskas, Millar, van summeren, and danielson.
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I definitely agree with one of those three guys in the top 10.

I don't think getting yellow, for a day or so, is that far fetched. Stage 1 will be a sprint, everyone on the same time. Stages 2 and 3 should be reduced sprints, and someone from Garmin should be (at worst) within a few seconds of that group. At best, though unlikely, someone like Martin or Navardauskas could even win with a late attack. So, if they're strong in the TTT, they could conceivably have a rider in yellow for a few days afterwards.
 
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Hesjedal is nowadays one of the stronger riders for a GT. So, if he is well recovered of his crash in Suisse, and he is in a good shape, he will be one more of the enemies of SKy this year for the Tour.

He need good luck, nor bad luck with crash nor bad luck with illness as in the Giro.

We can talk a lot, but the main selection in the Tour use to be do it for the first week or the illness. Last year put Mollema, Gesink, Valverde, Samu, Hesjedal, Evans,.. out of the podium.

We will see in Pyrynees the untouched, and then will be more realistic...Dan martin and Talansky could do it very well, we will see if in support of Hesjedal, for the top ten or for the stages.
 
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Anderis

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They can just win TTT and then they could defend a yellow jersey for... who knows how long? Remember Voeckler in 2011? Do you think Hesjedal or Talansky are not able to keep with the frontrunners for a while, even better than Voeckler?

They decided to put all effort on TTT and GC. Maybe they are not going to win GC, but they can well have one or two riders very high in classification in Paris. If you fight for 4th or 5th, strong team-mates can help you achieve this a lot.

Stage hunters? Apart Dan Martin, who would be their realistic chance to win a stage? Farrar doesn't seem to be able to threat the very best sprinters recently. Navardauskas is young and it's hard to expect him to repeat his strong Giro in France. Millar... is he in good enough shape? He seems to be past his prime anyway. There are no other riders in Garmin who are proven to be capable of breakaway win in TdF, not even mention a sprint or attack from main group on last kilometers. Who else could be a good bet? I can't see, really.

I like the expected roster. Double top-10 in GC is not that unlikely if you ask me and it would be a great achievement considering they don't have a stage hunter to rely on. Why not to send the team with a thought to achieve this goal?
 
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Stage hunters? Apart Dan Martin, who would be their realistic chance to win a stage? Farrar doesn't seem to be able to threat the very best sprinters recently. Navardauskas is young and it's hard to expect him to repeat his strong Giro in France. Millar... is he in good enough shape? He seems to be past his prime anyway. There are no other riders in Garmin who are proven to be capable of breakaway win in TdF, not even mention a sprint or attack from main group on last kilometers. Who else could be a good bet? I can't see, really.
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Anyone at Garmin could win a stage if they pick the right breakaway. Navardauskas is a beast of a rider, and even tired from the Giro it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him take a stage win from a break. Millar's form I think is pretty good at the moment. he was 3rd at the British RR, which may not have too big a level of competition but it was still a good performance. Plus he has just as good a chance as any of taking a win from a breakaway like he did last year.

I'd say their best bet for a stage win though would be Martin. He was 8th overall at Suisse, so he's coming into good form. And he has all the attributes to make him a good bet to win a stage.
 
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Afrank said:
Anyone at Garmin could win a stage if they pick the right breakaway. Navardauskas is a beast of a rider, and even tired from the Giro it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him take a stage win from a break. Millar's form I think is pretty good at the moment. he was 3rd at the British RR, which may not have too big a level of competition but it was still a good performance. Plus he has just as good a chance as any of taking a win from a breakaway like he did last year.

I'd say their best bet for a stage win though would be Martin. He was 8th overall at Suisse, so he's coming into good form. And he has all the attributes to make him a good bet to win a stage.
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Martin suffered big time from allergies in Suisse, he had a lot of trouble breathing during some of the stages. Im really looking forward to his performances in this years Tour.
Talansky was very good in the last stage of the dauphine after comming back from sickness.
Hesjedal looked really promising in the Giro untill he got sick, hopefully he can take the same form to the Tour.

So 3 very strong leaders backed by some very strong guys could be fun!
 
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Martin suffered big time from allergies in Suisse, he had a lot of trouble breathing during some of the stages. Im really looking forward to his performances in this years Tour.
Talansky was very good in the last stage of the dauphine after comming back from sickness.
Hesjedal looked really promising in the Giro untill he got sick, hopefully he can take the same form to the Tour.

So 3 very strong leaders backed by some very strong guys could be fun!
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Hmm, suffering from allergies and still managed to finish in the top 10 overall. Very good performance then considering. They definitely have the riders to get a couple top 10's. I'm especially really looking forward to seeing how Talansky does the most.

And the duo of Hesjedal-Martin could be strong for stages, we all remember what happened in April. :D
 
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Ruudz0r said:
Martin suffered big time from allergies in Suisse, he had a lot of trouble breathing during some of the stages. Im really looking forward to his performances in this years Tour.
Talansky was very good in the last stage of the dauphine after comming back from sickness.
Hesjedal looked really promising in the Giro untill he got sick, hopefully he can take the same form to the Tour.

So 3 very strong leaders backed by some very strong guys could be fun!
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I'm not an allergy person, but I read that pollen levels are currently the highest they've been this year, so I doubt now is a great time for Dan Martin to deliver results.

He got lucky with the postponed spring though, in LBL, so I guess he'll be okay with it.
 
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I'm not an allergy person, but I read that pollen levels are currently the highest they've been this year, so I doubt now is a great time for Dan Martin to deliver results.

He got lucky with the postponed spring though, in LBL, so I guess he'll be okay with it.
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I am, it's not that bad, at least for me. The day after Contador's horrible ITT it started kicking in :D
 
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Anderis

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Well, if I understand correctly, they aren't focused on anyone and their strategy is to have multiple GC options in order to put other teams under pressure. They hope others will not be able to react on all of their attacks due to this.
 
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Afrank

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Anderis said:
I would love to see Garmin trying simillar strategy to last year's USA Pro Cycling Challenge!
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That would be great, but I'm afraid those kind of tactics would be doomed to fail in the Tour de France. It's easy to implement those kind of tactics and find success through them at a race like the US pro Challenge. Where the competition isn't great, the world tour teams are much stronger, and the race is only a week long. They'll completely burn themselves out doing it at the Tour though.

Hopefully they do take an attacking approach to the mountains and decisive stages though.
 
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