GB Track Team

[Don't be late Pedro]

The GB medal count would not concern me given what they did in Beijing but the fact there are so many WRs/ORs does. If other countries were also breaking those barriers you would say it was the track but that does not seem the case.

 

[Franklin]

If other countries were also breaking those barriers you would say it was the track but that does not seem the case.

I was under the impression other teams were faster than Peking as well?

 

[Franklin]

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson
Bauge is asking Kenny questions during post race press con..

julienpretotRTR ‏@julienpretotRTR
Surreal exchange between Bauge and Kenny in post-final presser, Bauge asking Kenny how he prepared etc

James Olley ‏@JamesOlley
Surreal press conference with Kenny. His lead inquisitor? Gregory Bauge. "How did you prepare for this?" etc

Yeah, the French are a.b.s.o.l.u.t.e.l.y. livid after the team sprint.

 

[BroDeal]

This is crazy. Just take a look at the Goldman dillema and you realize that the odds of clean disciplines is really, really remote. Even if the management of Team UK has the most holy and ethical demeanor ever seen, you can be 99.99999999% sure several of their athletes are cheating. Same goes for the other countries of course

Heck, if you add game theory to the Goldman dilemma and you would get truly shocking numbers. It's simply that nobody involved, be it athletes, pundits, Ioc, Wada or unions like to mention. It would make the fight rather empty and pointless... which I still don't think it is.

The Goldman Dilemma has to be one of the worst examples of a researcher using survey questions to get the results he wanted. Let's see a survey with follow-up questions that ensure the respondents fully appreciate the implications of the first question.

 

[gthx_gthx_]

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson
Bauge is asking Kenny questions during post race press con..

julienpretotRTR ‏@julienpretotRTR
Surreal exchange between Bauge and Kenny in post-final presser, Bauge asking Kenny how he prepared etc

James Olley ‏@JamesOlley
Surreal press conference with Kenny. His lead inquisitor? Gregory Bauge. "How did you prepare for this?" etc

I don't follow much track racing. Kenny's performance seems suspicious ?

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Yeah, the French are a.b.s.o.l.u.t.e.l.y. livid after the team sprint.

Have we heard from the French about their swimmers, or indeed about their WR in the Team Sprint?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

I was under the impression other teams were faster than Peking as well?

Other than the Chinese Women's sprint I can't think of another record that was not broken by GB.

For instance in the WTC 2012 Men's team pursuit GB won by breaking the WR but Aus also went other as well. Can't think of any instances here so far.

Obviously something has changed but whether its doping, equipment or training related I have no idea. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt but, as always, when things are too good to be true...

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

I don't follow much track racing. Kenny's performance seems suspicious ?

I think in absolute terms in is possible for him to have such a performance. He is after all an Olympic silver medalist in the sprint and 2xgold in team sprint. More that in the last few meets Bauge has been smashing everyone but was convincingly beaten this time. Be interesting to compare final lap times and see how they compare to previous contests.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

I think in absolute terms in is possible for him to have such a performance. He is after all an Olympic silver medalist in the sprint and 2xgold in team sprint. More that in the last few meets Bauge has been smashing everyone but was convincingly beaten this time. Be interesting to compare final lap times and see how they compare to previous contests.

Bauge qualified in just under 10 seconds, which is about 0.2s slower than normal. Kenny set a PB by just over 0.1s.

If Bauge has even maintained his normal form, the sprint would have been very close.

 

[Franklin]

Have we heard from the French about their swimmers, or indeed about their WR in the Team Sprint?

Of course not These things are chauvinistic as can be.

That said, France in Swimming is hardly as dominant as GB in cycling. And the WR stood for about 5 minutes when the Brits pulverized it.

 

[buckle]

Bauge qualified in just under 10 seconds, which is about 0.2s slower than normal. Kenny set a PB by just over 0.1s.

If Bauge has even maintained his normal form, the sprint would have been very close.

If it means anything at all, Baugé has a habit of missing doping tests.

 

[the big ring]

If it means anything at all, Baugé has a habit of missing doping tests.

Agreed. So if you take that to its logical conclusion and suggest he's on the best doping regime he can afford, no wonder he's asking the new kid how the hell he prepared

 

[Mellow Velo]

Daniel Benson ‏@dnlbenson
Bauge is asking Kenny questions during post race press con..

julienpretotRTR ‏@julienpretotRTR
Surreal exchange between Bauge and Kenny in post-final presser, Bauge asking Kenny how he prepared etc

James Olley ‏@JamesOlley
Surreal press conference with Kenny. His lead inquisitor? Gregory Bauge. "How did you prepare for this?" etc

So, they guy who has served a nice, convenient retrospective doping ban is question someone's performance?
No room for him on the moral high ground.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Agreed. So if you take that to its logical conclusion and suggest he's on the best doping regime he can afford, no wonder he's asking the new kid how the hell he prepared

But logically he would not be doing in the post race press conference

 

[Darryl Webster]

So, they guy who has served a nice, convenient retrospective doping ban is question someone's performance?
No room for him on the moral high ground.

Did the irony get lost in translation?

 

[buckle]

So, they guy who has served a nice, convenient retrospective doping ban is question someone's performance?
No room for him on the moral high ground.

Who better?

 

[Benotti69]

So, they guy who has served a nice, convenient retrospective doping ban is question someone's performance?
No room for him on the moral high ground.

Maybe it is because he knows he was doping and he wants everyone to remember that he got beat

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Maybe it is because he knows he was doping and he wants everyone to remember that he got beat

Maybe after serving a ban he is doping less (or not at all) hence is performance has dropped a notch

 

[thehog]

So, they guy who has served a nice, convenient retrospective doping ban is question someone's performance?
No room for him on the moral high ground.

Takes one to know one.

The improvements are staggering. The question I thought was relevant.

The answer was rather mysterious.

 

[Darryl Webster]

Well, well, well, this is interesting. GlaxoSmithKline are involved in medical control at the Olympics ( you may have seen there TV adds here in the uk)...and guess what..Peter Keen, widely held responsible for setting BC cycling on the road to were they are now and Special Adviser to UK Sports now works for GlaxoSmithKline. All pure coincidence of course...move along now..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_RJ9QPG70U&feature=share

 

[usedtobefast]

Takes one to know one.

The improvements are staggering. The question I thought was relevant.

The answer was rather mysterious.

very mysterious.
they doped to the maximum allowed by not going over the limit. if you(not you Hog) can't see
that, well it must be your first rodeo. so obvious and laughable. like East Germany back in the day or take your pic.

 

[WildspokeJoe]

Obviously something has changed but whether its doping, equipment or training related I have no idea. I want to give them the benefit of the doubt but, as always, when things are too good to be true...

I may be falling into the trap again, but could the fact that they are on home soil be the reason why they are preforming so well?

Historically, the host country does better than they normally would.

And the fact that GBTT has been riding well for several years makes their outstanding haul plausible?!??!!?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

I may be falling into the trap again, but could the fact that they are on home soil be the reason why they are preforming so well?

Historically, the host country does better than they normally would.

And the fact that GBTT has been riding well for several years makes their outstanding haul plausible?!??!!?

It is plausible and it might be a factor. Just that it seems that something else must have changed to be consistently above, not just everyone else's, but their own PBs.

 

[WildspokeJoe]

What I also find interesting is if the entire GB team is doping, then it's on a massive scale.

Both men and women under the axe.

Staggering really.

 

[Tei6chai]

I do wonder how long the UK are going to keep throwing money at Brailsford. With British winners of the TdF, Giro and Tour stages, the WC and the Olympic ITT, he has achieved a lot of his goals on the road. On the track, his team have absolutely dominated too. Now that so much of what he is doing is going to be maintaining success rather than breaking new ground

Oh really?

If he's looking for a new challenge, setting up a Sky Women's road team would offer everything he could possibly want.

A team containing Nicole Cooke, Lizzie Armitstead, Emma Pooley, Sharon Laws, Lucy Martin, plus a few youngsters from the track endurance programme, like Laura Trott would be a powerful force in Women's road racing.

The truly hard part would be finding deep-pocketed sponsors willing to spend money on Women's cycling ... that would be the challenge.