Geert Leinders

[taiwan]

Just some background stuff here:...

Damn, good work.

 

[Benotti69]

I like this analogy. Makes me think of the episode of the Simpsons where Bart becomes a bartender for Fat Tony's gangster clan, and keeps boxes of their stolen and/or counterfeit goods in his room.

Tony: "is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?"

Bart: "Hell no"

Tony: "well, what if your family is very large? And what if your family don't LIKE bread? They like, well, cigarettes?"

I bet Armstrong used that quote to Wiggins in 2009

 

[sniper]

More press exposure of the Sky/Leinders-scam:

http://www.humanite.fr/sports/tour-connaissez-vous-le-docteur-de-l’equipe-sky-501347

Lors d’une conférence de presse, Wiggins refusa d’ailleurs de répondre à une question concernant Leinders. Sinon, il aurait fallu qu’il nous explique comment il avait réussi à perdre 12 kilos pour devenir le plus grimpeur des rouleurs…

Pourquoi mener des enquêtes sur un médecin deux ans après l’avoir engagé? Comment les dirigeants de Sky pouvaient-ils ne pas connaître le passé de Leinders chez Rabobank, puisque, nous, nous le savions? Enfin, que dire du choix de Ténériffe, prisé de certains médecins, comme haut lieu de la préparation physique du Team Sky?

 

[sniper]

from the same article:

Geert Leinders était absent de l’épreuve cette année, mais il travaille 80 jours par an avec la formation du vainqueur Bradley Wiggins.

 

[Cycle Chic]

lets hope the french do their job and investigate this - they must be itching to nail Sky and a roast beef tdf winner.

And - why bother with Cobra - dont lower yourselves to respond to his posts.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

More press exposure of the Sky/Leinders-scam:

http://www.humanite.fr/sports/tour-connaissez-vous-le-docteur-de-l’equipe-sky-501347

Good info, thanks.

 

[will10]

lets hope the french do their job and investigate this - they must be itching to nail Sky and a roast beef tdf winner.

And - why bother with Cobra - dont lower yourselves to respond to his posts.

The French love Wiggins.

 

[blackcat]

Ok, but this guy was the DS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyqyVKSJiOM

Dave.

Team Easy On. Great mashup, pigs hearts, great team, great teamwork, who could forget the movie

Overcoming.

Pre-season training camps in a scandanavian arctic when Basso and Sastre cant swim

When teams go over the top on the public relations, one wonders what relations cycling has with PR. Can one triangulate Cancer, PR and Cycling. Bermuda?

 

[sniper]

+1 to Shane Stokes Cycling for twittering this:

Well argued piece about why Sky still have questions to answer about the presence of Geert Leinders on the team http://bit.ly/PfAwsZ

 

[Benotti69]

+1 to Shane Stokes Cycling for twittering this:

I have to say it does read like the journalist has visited the Clinic and then written this article

It repeats what has already been posted here plenty of times.

Last line is great

The Wiggins of before wouldn’t have minded.

 

[Cycle Chic]

Thats cause The Clinic rocks !!

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I have to say it does read like the journalist has visited the Clinic and then written this article

It repeats what has already been posted here plenty of times.

Last line is great

If so then this may be of interest to them - Skys other Doctor also has some history.

Dr. Fabio Bartalucci has been with Sky since last year and he was one of those who was served notice by Italian prosecutors back in 2001 when he was Doc with the Bonjour team.

 

[Darryl Webster]

If so then this may be of interest to them - Skys other Doctor also has some history.

Dr. Fabio Bartalucci has been with Sky since last year and he was one of those who was served notice by Italian prosecutors back in 2001 when he was Doc with the Bonjour team.

Ooh, nice find!!..it just gets better ..lol

 

[Darryl Webster]

"And he took me to see a doctor he'd worked with before with other athletes, Fabio Bartolucci, and he was able to offer advice and guidelines on how I could try and progress."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ng-i-was-in-pain-i-wanted-to-quit-966040.html

 

[Bala Verde]

If so then this may be of interest to them - Skys other Doctor also has some history.

Dr. Fabio Bartalucci has been with Sky since last year and he was one of those who was served notice by Italian prosecutors back in 2001 when he was Doc with the Bonjour team.

I recognized that name; I was trawling through some info on the interwebz when I came across this link:

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/g...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=MzY4Njc&LangId=1

It's an UCI .xls (excel) download with 2008 team management of various pro tour teams.

Some interesting names:

EQUIPE FONCTION NOM DE FAMILLE PRENOM PAYS

AG2R-LA MONDIALE Médecin d'équipe BOUVAT Eric FRA

BOUYGUES TELECOM Médecin d'équipe BARTALUCCI Fabio
BOUYGUES TELECOM Médecin d'équipe GOILLANDEAU Jean-Pierre FRA

COFIDIS, LE CREDIT PAR TELEPHONE Médecin d'équipe NIAMKE Serge FRA

CREDIT AGRICOLE Médecin d'équipe MENARD Joël A. - Médecin FRA

FRANÇAISE DES JEUX Médecin d'équipe GUILLAUME Gérard FRA

HIGH ROAD Médecin d'équipe RIEPENHOF Helge GER

LAMPRE Médecin d'équipe GUARDASCIONE Carlo Costanzo ITA

LIQUIGAS Médecin d'équipe CORSETTI Roberto ITA

RABOBANK Médecin d'équipe LEINDERS Geert NED
RABOBANK Médecin d'équipe VAN MANTGEM Jan-Paul NED
RABOBANK Médecin d'équipe VVAN BOMMEL Dion NED

TEAM MILRAM Médecin d'équipe SPRENGER Claudio ITA
TEAM MILRAM Médecin d'équipe TENNER Dirk ITA

also, as a reminder:

ASTANA Directeur Sportif adj. YATES Sean GBR

Fabio Bartaluci was present as a doctor at the 2012 TOUR OF QATAR:

Race numbers:

11. Mark Cavendish
12. Davide Appollonio
13. Michael Barry
14. Bernhard Eisel
15. Juan Antonio Flecha
16. Jeremy Hunt
17. Christian Knees
18. Ian Stannard

DS: Steven de Jongh
Race Coach: Rod Ellingworth
Doctor: Fabio Bartalucci
Physio: Dan Guillemette
Mechanic: Diego Costa
Mechanic: Gary Blem
Carer: David Rozman
Carer: Klaus Liebold
Carer: Stefan Szrek
Press officer: Nick Howes

Tour of Oman 2012

Team Sky line-up:

1. Mark Cavendish
2. Davide Appollonio
3. Luke Rowe
4. Bernhard Eisel
5. Mathew Hayman
6. Jeremy Hunt
7. Ian Stannard
8. Chris Sutton

DS: Servais Knaven
2nd DS/Coach: Rod Ellingworth
Doctor: Fabio Bartalucci
Physio: Dan Guillemette
Mechanic: Diego Costa
Mechanic: Gary Blem
Carer: David Rozman
Carer: Klaus Liebold
Carer: Stefan Szrek
Press officer: Nick Howes

Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2012

Team Sky line-up:

1. Chris Sutton (defending champion)
2. Mark Cavendish
3. Juan Antonio Flecha
4. Alex Dowsett
5. Bernhard Eisel
6. Mathew Hayman
7. Jeremy Hunt
8. Ian Stannard

DS: Steven de Jongh
DS: Servais Knaven
Doctor: Fabio Bartalucci
Mechanic: Richard Lambert
Mechanic: Pascale Nerinckx
Carer: Aldis Cirulis
Carer: Maarten Mimpen
Carer: Peter Raffeiner
Bus driver: Chris Slark

OMLOOP HET NIEUWSBLAD 2012

Team Sky line-up:

31. Alex Dowsett
32. Bernhard Eisel
33. Juan Antonio Flecha
34. Mathew Hayman
35. Jeremy Hunt
36. Christian Knees
37. Ian Stannard
38. Chris Sutton

DS: Steven de Jongh
DS: Servais Knaven
Doctor: Fabio Bartalucci
Mechanic: Richard Lambert
Mechanic: Pascale Nerinckx
Carer: Aldis Cirulis
Carer: Maarten Mimpen
Carer: Peter Raffeiner
Bus driver: Chris Slark

Criterium International 2012

Team Sky line-up:

31. Lars-Petter Nordhaug
32. Chris Froome
33. Thomas Löfkvist
34. Salvatore Puccio
35. Michael Rogers
36. Luke Rowe

DS: Marcus Ljungqvist
Coach/2nd DS: Bobby Julich
Performance support: Tim Kerrison
Doctor: Fabio Bartalucci
Carer: Mario Pafundi
Carer: Claudio Lucchini
Mechanic: Filip Tisma
Mechanic: Diego Costa

Tirreno Adriatico 2012

Team Sky line-up:
191 Mark Cavendish
192 Edvald Boasson Hagen
193 Bernhard Eisel
194 Jeremy Hunt
195 Mathew Hayman
196 Thomas Löfkvist
197 Ian Stannard
198 Chris Sutton

Lead DS: Servais Knaven
2nd DS: Steven de Jongh
Race coach: Rod Ellingworth
Doctor: Fabio Bartalucci
Carer: Aldis Cirulis
Carer: David Rozman
Carer: Mario Pafundi
Physio: Dan Guillemette
Mechanic: Diego Costa
Mechanic: Gary Blem
Mechanic: Richard Lambert
Bus driver: Claudio Lucchini
Performance Assistant: Oliver Cookson
Media: Dario Cioni

I think the same incident is reported here:

http://www.humanite.fr/node/396399

Du côté des personnels d'encadrement, deux noms parmi douze à retenir. Celui de Luigi Stanga d'abord, impliqué pour l'équipe Colpack, mais précédemment manager de la Polti et artisan de la venue de Richard Virenque et Pascal Hervé dans le team du fabricant d'aspirateur en 1999. Et celui du soigneur italien Fabio Bartalucci, qui officiait pour Bonjour, la seule équipe française engagée sur ce Giro. Venant après le contrôle positif de Noan Lelarge sur ce même Giro, révélé au cours du dernier Tour de France, voilà qui fait désordre dans la maison Bernaudeau.

 

[Darryl Webster]

http://www.dopeology.org/people/Fabio_Bartalucci/

 

[Darryl Webster]

8min 20secs in , great work peeps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBGLB5xMzF8

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I recognized that name; I was trawling through some info on the interwebz when I came across this link:

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/BUILTIN/g...bjTypeCode=FILE&type=FILE&id=MzY4Njc&LangId=1

It's an UCI .xls (excel) download with 2008 team management of various pro tour teams.

Some interesting names:



also, as a reminder:


Fabio Bartaluci was present as a doctor at the 2012 TOUR OF QATAR:



Tour of Oman 2012



Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2012



OMLOOP HET NIEUWSBLAD 2012



Criterium International 2012



Tirreno Adriatico 2012



I think the same incident is reported here:

http://www.humanite.fr/node/396399

No - that 'incident' was the positive of one of the Bonjour riders Noan Lelarge at the same 2001 Giro.

But it is ok - Bartalucci moved on to a new team the year after called Phonak.

 

[Pentacycle]

"And he took me to see a doctor he'd worked with before with other athletes, Fabio Bartolucci, and he was able to offer advice and guidelines on how I could try and progress."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ng-i-was-in-pain-i-wanted-to-quit-966040.html

It certainly helped her a lot in 2008, it sounds like the Cobo story in 2011, going from almost quitting the sport to winning big races...Bartolucci's name can be found even on Cyclingnews itself, again in an article about Cooke.

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/features.php?id=features/2009/nicole_cooke_jan09

Fabio was working at Bouygues at the time, a team with a reputation for riding clean(according to this article)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/aug/15/olympics2008.olympicscycling

 

[hrotha]

It certainly helped her a lot in 2008, it sounds like the Cobo story in 2011, going from almost quitting the sport to winning big races...Bartolucci's name can be found even on Cyclingnews itself, again in an article about Cooke.

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/features.php?id=features/2009/nicole_cooke_jan09

Fabio was working at Bouygues at the time, a team with a reputation for riding clean(according to this article)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/aug/15/olympics2008.olympicscycling

The Bouygues/Europcar/Vendée team has gone through many different phases. I'd say there's a good chance they were clean(ish) ca. 2008, but I wouldn't say the same about 2001-2004, with stuff like Fabrice Salanson and signing Beloki. And don't get me started on their current incarnation.

 

[blackcat]

If so then this may be of interest to them - Skys other Doctor also has some history.

Dr. Fabio Bartalucci has been with Sky since last year and he was one of those who was served notice by Italian prosecutors back in 2001 when he was Doc with the Bonjour team.

fabrice salanson

 

[Franklin]

There just was noone else to hire... please understand

 

[bommels]

This indifference is sickening.

Instead, you take her to Leinders for her program. You are still doping your daughter. Leinders is your hero, right? Doping is still okay. Right? What would her doping program look like? You are indifferent to it all, so start with your kid.

Thank you Sir, for this eloquent, well-reasoned and friendly reply. Bravo!

 

[Benotti69]

Can a Moderator change this thread title to 'Sky's Team Doctor's' as it is now obvious that there is a team program going on run by a number of doctors with a history of working for doping teams or being served notice for doping.

Brailsford is not going to bother trying to explain these away. He is just going to ignore it. I bet they are refusing requests for interviews from anyone who is not onside.

 

[L'arriviste]

Seems Bartalucci was at Cervélo Test Team in 2009-2010.

Paging Gerard Vroomen, the man who says nobody else can talk about doping...

Just kidding about GV. But Bartalucci's quite a ladies' man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb-SmzTDO4A

Here he is listed in a UK Sport conference doc entitled Winning Margins as Nicole Cooke's coach.

He was at Phonak in 2002, so he must have left Bonjour at the end of that Blitz / Lelarge positive season.

2005 and 2006 saw him at Française des Jeux.