General Doping Thread.

[Sciatic]

Just listened to the ARD podcast about it. So bottom line is - we are all fine with state-doping of Chinese swimmers that have and will soon win medals at Olympics but shun individuals that don’t either have the resources or protection (nation, team, status) to play the system. Anti Doping is hard inherently because you are on the chase/reactive, but with politics involved, its a lost cause.

And Russia must always be the bad guy.

 

[Rob5091]

And Russia must always be the bad guy.

Yep, them there Putin, he's the worst! Just wait until US is number 1 on the medals table, that'll show him and put a stop to his shenanigans in the Ukraine.

 

[Monte Serra]

Richard Virenque carrying the Olympic Torch. Is he still a popular figure in France, on par with Jalabert?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1789018894562173092

View: https://twitter.com/RenaudB31/status/1789018894562173092

 

[BullsFan22]

Richard Virenque carrying the Olympic Torch. Is he still a popular figure in France, on par with Jalabert?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1789018894562173092

View: https://twitter.com/RenaudB31/status/1789018894562173092

LOL. The French are so funny. 😂🤣😂

 

[shadowrider]

LOL. The French are so funny. 😂🤣😂

Not funny at all. But very sad. The French always complaining about cycling "à deux vitesses". Suggesting their (clean) riders have to compete against doped/medical prepared riders from abroad. While the French were during the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, beginning of this century among the most doped riders. Amongst Virenque. The French make fools of themselfes letting Virenque carry the olympic flame.

 

[Sciatic]

Not funny at all. But very sad. The French always complaining about cycling "à deux vitesses". Suggesting their (clean) riders have to compete against doped/medical prepared riders from abroad. While the French were during the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, beginning of this century among the most doped riders. Amongst Virenque. The French make fools of themselfes letting Virenque carry the olympic flame.

You know like a thousand people end up carrying the flame for a short distance on way to Paris?

 

[BullsFan22]

https://www.reuters.com/sports/wada-criticises-us-undermining-anti-doping-efforts-2024-05-17/

 

[Libertine Seguros]

https://www.reuters.com/sports/wada-criticises-us-undermining-anti-doping-efforts-2024-05-17/

Shock horror.

 

[Sciatic]

https://www.reuters.com/sports/wada-criticises-us-undermining-anti-doping-efforts-2024-05-17/

WADA statement from the article: “That accusation, bereft of any truth, has but a single purpose to deliberately damage the reputation of WADA.”
Hmm, it would seem that WADA doesn’t need an outsider to wreck their reputation, since they are doing such a good job of it themselves.

 

[pastronef]

mtb XCO rider Vlad Dascalu has been suspended by Trek Factory after getting a 17 months ban from the UCI for 3 missed test in a 1 year period

 

[carton]

The Lizzy Banks and Kateryna Nash *** is just hard to even comprehend much less tolerate if you consume any kind of english-language cycling media. It's just astonishing how much journalists yearn to be lied to and just how overwhelming is the need for that ersatz-cosmopolitan progressive mob to find an outlet to channel their pent up tribalism. Just an astonishing amount of "the great and falsely scrutinized Flo-Jo against those cheating androgynous East Germans" reruns. History repeats itself because humans never get tired of lying to themselves.

 

[Sciatic]

He will be untouchable because he’s such a big star and a Yankee, but the ball is coming off Judge’s bat (American MLB) like no one since the anabolics fueled 70-homer season of Bonds and McGuire.
(There’s also his prominent lantern jaw but that’s not altogether fair since that could just be his face).

https://www.mlb.com/video/aaron-judge-hammers-467-foot-home-run?affiliateId=mlbapp-ios_video-share

 

[Axel Hangleck]

The Lizzy Banks and Kateryna Nash *** is just hard to even comprehend much less tolerate if you consume any kind of english-language cycling media. It's just astonishing how much journalists yearn to be lied to and just how overwhelming is the need for that ersatz-cosmopolitan progressive mob to find an outlet to channel their pent up tribalism. Just an astonishing amount of "the great and falsely scrutinized Flo-Jo against those cheating androgynous East Germans" reruns. History repeats itself because humans never get tired of lying to themselves.

Have you actually read her website - and what she went through..........

You are an utter clown!!

 

[kingjr]

The Lizzy Banks and Kateryna Nash *** is just hard to even comprehend much less tolerate if you consume any kind of english-language cycling media. It's just astonishing how much journalists yearn to be lied to and just how overwhelming is the need for that ersatz-cosmopolitan progressive mob to find an outlet to channel their pent up tribalism. Just an astonishing amount of "the great and falsely scrutinized Flo-Jo against those cheating androgynous East Germans" reruns. History repeats itself because humans never get tired of lying to themselves.

Could you break down your view of the Lizzy Banks case for us?

 

[Sciatic]

Have you actually read her website - and what she went through..........

You are an utter clown!!

If by “went through” you mean she and her husband spending their life savings to hire attorneys who could produce enough doubt in a 600/page filing to get the violations dismissed, that was her choice.

 

[kingjr]

If by “went through” you mean she and her husband spending their life savings to hire attorneys who could produce enough doubt in a 600/page filing to get the violations dismissed, that was her choice.

Strict liability doesn't leave you with much of a choice.

 

[Sciatic]

Strict liability doesn't leave you with much of a choice.

I wish there was a middle path that UCI & anti-doping organizations could offer. For instance, tell her she can clear her name and keep riding, but to do so she must agree to take a lie-detector test and get her blood tested every week by a certified lab, for like a year.

 

[carton]

Could you break down your view of the Lizzy Banks case for us?

 

[kingjr]

That it?

 

[Tim Cahill]

UCI communicado official

UCI statement concerning Robert Stannard

www.uci.org

They're back on absolutely top form here, suspending Rob Stannard from 17/08/2018 - 17/08/2022, someone needs to send a calendar to Switzerland and remind them what year it is at this present moment in time.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

UCI communicado official

UCI statement concerning Robert Stannard

www.uci.org

They're back on absolutely top form here, suspending Rob Stannard from 17/08/2018 - 17/08/2022, someone needs to send a calendar to Switzerland and remind them what year it is at this present moment in time.

Compare this the CX rider Toon Aerts contamination case
Toon was stopped for two full years.
How many months has Stannard lost here?

 

[search]

well, unlike Aerts', his career is over, I guess? Who (outside the Asia Tour) would pick up a rider that can't keep his passport in order?

 

[Rob5091]

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/articles/c1rrgnlgd43o
Hope he goes to CAS because this is ridiculous.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Compare this the CX rider Toon Aerts contamination case
Toon was stopped for two full years.
How many months has Stannard lost here?

Going forward? Zero.

 

[yaco]

I suspect that Stannard and his legal team came to an agreement because the ABP was not an overly strong case, hence, the backdating of the suspension. It's a pity because going back to 2010, Stannard,Ewan and Power were clearly the best Aussie under 23 riders and only Ewan lived up to that potential.