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Moondance said:
Jeez Phil, how ignorant can you be? Maybe he hasn't noticed that there's kind of a big economic crisis going around that's wrecking economies and costing millions their jobs and livelihoods?

Maybe he didn't get quite as much money as he'd hoped in his new deal (wanted €3m+ p.a., and didn't get it) and now it's the UCI's fault. Get real Phil.

What did he say?
 
Richeypen said:
What did he say?

Phil said:
Terwijl de UCI lyrisch is over uitstapjes naar Peking en de mondialisering van de wielersport, ziet Philippe Gilbert, nummer 1 van de wereld, de toekomst somberder in.

'Of dat allemaal zijn vruchten afwerpt, zullen we later zien. Maar wat dit jaar gebeurt, is zorgwekkend. HTC, &#233]

While the UCI is lyrical over the recent trip to Beijing, and the globalisation of cycling, Philippe Gilbert, the number 1 cyclist in the world, has a more somber view of things.

'Whether or or not [the Beijing Tour] will actually have positive effects will be determined at a later date. But it's extremely troubling what has happened this year. HTC, one of the best teams in the world, cannot find a new sponsor. Leopard, the Schleck brothers' team, if forced to give RadioShack a call. This is proof that our sport is in a bad place. That money and sponsors are ever increasingly hard to find. This should be major concern for those who administer the sport. As a cyclist it's very hard to try and present solutions for the problems. At the UCI there are people who are payed to think about this problem day and night, and they should come up with some changes'


What a dope.
 
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Moondance said:
While the UCI is lyrical over the recent trip to Beijing, and the globalisation of cycling, Philippe Gilbert, the number 1 cyclist in the world, has a more somber view of things.

'Whether or or not [the Beijing Tour] will actually have positive effects will be determined at a later date. But it's extremely troubling what has happened this year. HTC, one of the best teams in the world, cannot find a new sponsor. Leopard, the Schleck brothers' team, if forced to give RadioShack a call. This is proof that our sport is in a bad place. That money and sponsors are ever increasingly hard to find. This should be major concern for those who administer the sport. As a cyclist it's very hard to try and present solutions for the problems. At the UCI there are people who are payed to think about this problem day and night, and they should come up with some changes'


What a dope.

What exactly is your problem here? He is 100% right. Cycling is having major troubles. And part of that is indeed caused by the economic problems we are going through right now. But it isn't like cycling has been doing well the years before that either. And in times like this, organizing trips to China is something you should think about twice.
 
Dutchsmurf said:
What exactly is your problem here? He is 100% right. Cycling is having major troubles. And part of that is indeed caused by the economic problems we are going through right now. But it isn't like cycling has been doing well the years before that either. And in times like this, organizing trips to China is something you should think about twice.

I referenced it above. It's mainly the "No Sh!t Sherlock!" element to the fact that there isn't a lot of money around. Like he just woke up to the fact that we've been living through a economic crisis the last 3 years. He isn't incorrect in his statement, just horribly clueless if he thinks millions of people of their jobs and trillions of dollars in lost assets worldwide over the last few years wasn't going to affect cycling. Or maybe he hasn't been following the news the last few years, also a possibility.
 
Dutchsmurf said:
What exactly is your problem here? He is 100% right. Cycling is having major troubles. And part of that is indeed caused by the economic problems we are going through right now. But it isn't like cycling has been doing well the years before that either. And in times like this, organizing trips to China is something you should think about twice.
You contradict yourself here: China is currently where the money is, so if anything a trip to that country is beneficial.
 
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theyoungest said:
You contradict yourself here: China is currently where the money is, so if anything a trip to that country is beneficial.

You are saying there is cycling money in China? There is money in China for projects China is interest in. If I have to guess, cycling isn't one of them. Simply because there is no money to be made with cycling and China just loves making money.
 
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Dutchsmurf said:
You are saying there is cycling money in China? There is money in China for projects China is interest in. If I have to guess, cycling isn't one of them. Simply because there is no money to be made with cycling and China just loves making money.

you miss a very important word or 2 re cycling and China. Cycling sport or Professional cycling, because if the bicycle was removed from China ...............................:p
 
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Dutchsmurf said:
You are saying there is cycling money in China? There is money in China for projects China is interest in. If I have to guess, cycling isn't one of them. Simply because there is no money to be made with cycling and China just loves making money.

UCI were flogging a dead horse. If anything that Beijing race would more than likely put fans, sponsors and spectators off cycling completely. They have their basketball, football, track and field, swimming and a host of other sports and that joke of a race i somehow reckon will make zero impact on making it popular in China compared to them.

There's nothing to stop the Chinese setting up races themselves with Chinese and Asian riders and get the sport going that way, that would be a lot better than parachuting reluctant riders in and then calling the race WT status.





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Dutchsmurf said:
You are saying there is cycling money in China? There is money in China for projects China is interest in. If I have to guess, cycling isn't one of them. Simply because there is no money to be made with cycling and China just loves making money.
China loves making money in Europe. What are Europeans interested in? Among other things, cycling.

You're right that the race wasn't there for the Chinese spectators. But that's not the point.
 
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theyoungest said:
China loves making money in Europe. What are Europeans interested in? Among other things, cycling.

You're right that the race wasn't there for the Chinese spectators. But that's not the point.

So how to make money in China when nobody in China is going to see the race? :)

Chinese government might pay some cash to the UCI, but that's where it ends with a race like this that no one watched.

Besides, it's naive to think that economical reasons are the only reason why big sponsors don't want to invest in cycling. (directed to Moondance)
 
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theyoungest said:
China loves making money in Europe. What are Europeans interested in? Among other things, cycling.

You're right that the race wasn't there for the Chinese spectators. But that's not the point.

Cycling isn't quite on the top of the list of things Europeans are interested in though. There are tons of better sports to invest your money in. The only way for China to get anything out of cycling is when Chinese companies start sponsoring teams so they get brand awareness in Europe. But to make that happen, organizing a boring race in China isn't going to help.

The real benefit of going to China has nothing to do with Chinese companies at all. It is about giving the current, mostly American and European, sponsors a marketing opportunity in China. For that you kinda do need those Chinese spectators. A marketing campaign that nobody sees is a bit of a waste of time and money.

The only other use I can think of is when China uses its race to show of some tourist points. But we all know that didn't happen either.
 
Anyone see this from Hincapie's Twitter? 'Random bikers at 230 am in Paris?'
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??, Evans, George, Gilbert, Vino (?!)
 
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El Pistolero said:
Pretty cool pic :p

Kinda looks like Hinault on the left, but it isn't him I think.
It's Lelangue, looks like he's put ona bit of weight and looks a tad drunk.:p
luckyboy said:
Anyone see this from Hincapie's Twitter? 'Random bikers at 230 am in Paris?'
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??, Evans, George, Gilbert, Vino (?!)

Cool picture, Wonder how Vino and Cadel got on but I guess they were on the same team a few years ago.
 
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I was more thinking that because of firstly T-Mobile 03-04 and secondly Albi 2007. Probably is a nice guy and maybe I am just being stupid.