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El Pistolero said:
I'm a big Samu fan, but last few years he's just been a big let down in descents. He looked good in the Verbier descent last year though, but that's about it.

I noticed that some riders that recently have their first born get less reckless on descents. Maybe that's the case with Samu. Also with his rise in gc contention in the grand tours, possibly feels he's capable of advancing his cause in other areas without the risks of the high speed descents.
At the moment those are the best excuses I can come with.:)
 
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It also looks like the GP LLodio will be cancelled, however the final decision should be taken tomorrow

On a more positive note, the Vuelta a Castilla y León will be held, but it will be reduced from 5 to 3 days with 4 stages
 
capstardk said:
It also looks like the GP LLodio will be cancelled, however the final decision should be taken tomorrow

On a more positive note, the Vuelta a Castilla y León will be held, but it will be reduced from 5 to 3 days with 4 stages

Giving us Klasika Amorebieta as the only Basque race.

What a bunch of horses**t this globalisation drive is. This is one of the sport's biggest cradles of support. Can you imagine the equivalent in Belgium? Where the only Flemish race is the Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen?
 
italian team will be just a joke.they shot themselves in the head when they banned all the real deal riders.
good luck with cunego,viviani,modolo and the others after 250 hard kilometers when you face belgium,british,australian,spanish riders.
they won't even make the top 10.
i hope bettini will leave the place,it was a disgrace to see him accept that huge injustice from the federation.
 
jens_attacks said:
italian team will be just a joke.they shot themselves in the head when they banned all the real deal riders.
good luck with cunego,viviani,modolo and the others after 250 hard kilometers when you face belgium,british,australian,spanish riders.
they won't even make the top 10.
i hope bettini will leave the place,it was a disgrace to see him accept that huge injustice from the federation.
lol(banned the real deal riders) this is why you are different..rock on, bro.:D
 
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@ Jens_attacks: what should bettini do regarding the rule, in your opinion? I'm asking about something meaningful to reverse it.

Italy had it coming. When they applied the rule, it was only obvious that the options would decrease and so the chances of success. But let's not make it the only reason. I think looking at the pool there's a significant gap beetween the aging stars (if not in age, at least in performance) and the youngsters coming through. Moser, Battaglin, Viviani, Felline, Aru, Cattaneo, Agostini. Even if one of this guy's ever achieves world domination, it won't be tomorrow. The rule made that gap a little bit bigger in my opinion.
 
canyonball said:
@ Jens_attacks: what should bettini do regarding the rule, in your opinion? I'm asking about something meaningful to reverse it.

Italy had it coming. When they applied the rule, it was only obvious that the options would decrease and so the chances of success. But let's not make it the only reason. I think looking at the pool there's a significant gap beetween the aging stars (if not in age, at least in performance) and the youngsters coming through. Moser, Battaglin, Viviani, Felline, Aru, Cattaneo, Agostini. Even if one of this guy's ever achieves world domination, it won't be tomorrow. The rule made that gap a little bit bigger in my opinion.

i don't think bettini could have reversed the rule somehow.but as a form of respect as a fellow peloton collegue with alejet,michele,di luca or basso he should have quit that moment.retroactivity is sick and illegal.but hey it's pro cycling...

i might have exagerrated a little bit,cunego still has a good kick and engine maybe but i don't like him much.but with such an unexperienced team he has absolutely no chance.

the new generation looks good on paper and they can win in the small races.still until now no one impressed me so hard to say "oh man he's gonna kill them all in the next few years".when you look at the anglo-saxone new terrible strong wave in pro cycling is just getting sadder and obvious.italy won't be a force in the next ten years,not at all.
 
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jens_attacks said:
the new generation looks good on paper and they can win in the small races.still until now no one impressed me so hard to say "oh man he's gonna kill them all in the next few years".when you look at the anglo-saxone new terrible strong wave in pro cycling is just getting sadder and obvious.italy won't be a force in the next ten years,not at all.

Good to see you recognize that the rule is the least of Italy problems. And I hope you're not suggesting JTL for the world championship:eek:

I guess we have different views on the "rule" issue. Like you said, Bettini's only option would be to resign. It would be a poetic gesture, but nothing more than that.

Bettini choose to stay and work with what he has. He's been doing an effort (at least) to get those younger guy's experience. Even though I believe he recognizes it's a hard task and he'll probably go down after this year's worlds.
 
jens_attacks said:
italian team will be just a joke.they shot themselves in the head when they banned all the real deal riders.
good luck with cunego,viviani,modolo and the others after 250 hard kilometers when you face belgium,british,australian,spanish riders.
they won't even make the top 10.
i hope bettini will leave the place,it was a disgrace to see him accept that huge injustice from the federation.

Scarponi can't ride right?

Even if he could Italians cant really match up to Belemont, Gonzalez, Oliver with Fernandez and Gil as domestiques, and thats assuming Velasco doesnt even ride which he might. Edit: and I forgot Hernandez maybe too.

And there's people like Gilbert Evans maybe Schleck who are better than anything Italy has to offer if it comes down to a climb descent up the cauberg.

Their only hope would be if the decision was overturned and Rebellin could ride:D

My outside tip from the Italian team is, as it has been every year since 2007, Visconti.
 
absolutely agree,hitch.the only hope for them is cunego but he has to be uber prepared and to have shiitload of luck.another one would be ballan,but only with a strong team to control all the attacks like in 2008.let's face it, visconti hasn't the engine for 250 km,we learned that from the ardennes.
 
jens_attacks said:
italian team will be just a joke.they shot themselves in the head when they banned all the real deal riders.
good luck with cunego,viviani,modolo and the others after 250 hard kilometers when you face belgium,british,australian,spanish riders.
they won't even make the top 10.
i hope bettini will leave the place,it was a disgrace to see him accept that huge injustice from the federation.

Scarponi can't ride right?

Even if he could Italians cant really match up to Belemont, Gonzalez, Oliver, Fernandez and Gil as domestiques, and thats assuming Velasco doesnt even ride which he might.

And there's people like Gilbert Evans maybe Schleck who are better than anything Italy has to offer if it comes down to a climb descent up the cauberg.

Their only hope would be if the decision was overturned and Rebellin could ride:D

My outside tip from the Italian team is, as it has been every year since 2007, Visconti.
 
El Pistolero said:
The Spanish armada will be the strongest team at the WC this year, closely followed by the Belgians. It will either be a Spanish or Belgian WC IMO.

agreed.but also keep an eye open at the british.after the olympics they will be still strong as hell.have no idea though who will deliver in the finish,only if they get a spot for JTL.:p
 
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jens_attacks said:
agreed.but also keep an eye open at the british.after the olympics they will be still strong as hell.have no idea though who will deliver in the finish,only if they get a spot for JTL.:p

Froomey would be a good bet after Vuelta :) If he has the form of course ;)
 
The Hitch said:
Scarponi can't ride right?

Even if he could Italians cant really match up to Belemont, Gonzalez, Oliver with Fernandez and Gil as domestiques, and thats assuming Velasco doesnt even ride which he might. Edit: and I forgot Hernandez maybe too.

And there's people like Gilbert Evans maybe Schleck who are better than anything Italy has to offer if it comes down to a climb descent up the cauberg.

Their only hope would be if the decision was overturned and Rebellin could ride:D

My outside tip from the Italian team is, as it has been every year since 2007, Visconti.

I wouldn't rule out Llamazales domestiquing too. Of course, Gómez may or may not ride, although he's a bit long in the tooth now, while the younger Gil could also be a threat (OK, a threat to come 2nd) given that the finish isn't on the Cauberg itself.