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[Publiuszam]

Where’s Marc Hirschi? Swiss star to make long-awaited debut at Volta a Catalunya

UAE-Emirates officials confirm Catalunya and Ardennes are early season goals for their late-hour signing.

www.velonews.com

 

[Red Rick]

So the route for the 2021 Mont Ventoux Challenge has been revealed, and it's the toughest one yet. It's shorther than the first two editions, but with two ascents of the Ventoux it has more elevation gain. It has obviously been modeled after the 11th stage of this year's Tour, which also features the Ventoux double.

The organisers has also announced plans for a women's race to be held alongside the men's in 2022. Now that La Course has moved away from the mountain stages they had in 2017 and 18, it'll be great to have a similar one-day race on their calendar too.

Ventoux challenge for women is great

 

[Netserk]

When do they make it a MTT from Bédoin? Then you could have it open for both pelotons at the same time (not gonna happen).

 

[RedheadDane]

You mean, instead of first having all the ladies start, and then the men (or the reverse), then have everyone start mixed within each other? That would be so cool!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

You mean, instead of first having all the ladies start, and then the men (or the reverse), then have everyone start mixed within each other? That would be so cool!

It's not cool if someone like van Vleuten would just hang on to one of the men for a lot of the race.

 

[RedheadDane]

It's not cool if someone like van Vleuten would just hang on to one of the men for a lot of the race.

Or if one of the men just hangs on to someone like van Vleuten for a lot of the race.
But of course the same rule as always applies in ITTing should still apply here; not sitting in wheels!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Or if one of the men just hangs on to someone like van Vleuten for a lot of the race.
But of course the same rule as always applies in ITTing should still apply here; not sitting in wheels!

Having someone in your sights to pace you would still help you. But I don't think it would work, cause they would either have to start early/finish late or have a reduced peloton. But I agree that would be interesting to see such a race.

 

[RedheadDane]

Having someone in your sights to pace you would still help you. But I don't think it would work, cause they would either have to start early/finish late or have a reduced peloton. But I agree that would be interesting to see such a race.

Would the need for that have been greater than if it had been a regular case of "first one group, then the other"? However, the I actually don't think the idea of having a reduced "peloton" (however much you can talk about pelotons in an ITT) is that bad, especially since it could open the door for more of the "lesser teams".

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Would the need for that have been greater than if it had been a regular case of "first one group, then the other"?

That would depend on the lengths of the road races and the ITT. But it may not be that different.

However, the I actually don't think the idea of having a reduced "peloton" (however much you can talk about pelotons in an ITT) is that bad, especially since it could open the door for more of the "lesser teams".

I guess they could have 18 or 20 men's teams and the same for the women with 3 to maximum 6 riders from each. Then it would obviously be easier for a lesser team to make a result, when they wouldn't have to compete with 14 riders from INEOS and SD Worx, for instance.

 

[RedheadDane]

That would depend on the lengths of the road races and the ITT. But it may not be that different.

Oh, I thought we were talking about just an ITT.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Oh, I thought we were talking about just an ITT.

Ah ok, I thought you were refering to a normal road race, where they started seperately, my bad. If it's an ITT anyway, it obviously doesn't make a difference, if they start mixed or divided. My initial point was that if they started an MITT with around 300 riders (either men and women together or seperately), it would take a long time to finish it. But with a reduced peloton it could work fine, probably.

 

[Netserk]

300 riders a minute apart with the whole ascent taking 1 hour for the last rider(s) lasts for 6 hours in total. So shorter time than the longest one-day races. So you could have the last 20 riders (10 men and 10 women) 3 minutes apart.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

300 riders a minute apart with the whole ascent taking 1 hour for the last rider(s) lasts for 6 hours in total. So shorter time than the longest one-day races. So you could have the last 20 riders (10 men and 10 women) 3 minutes apart.

I guess I could just have tried to do the math
6 hours is still a lot of time for an ITT though. I wouldn't watch it all that's for sure.

 

[Netserk]

Smaller team sizes would be preferable (you could go all the way down to 3 riders max), and then you could also have juniors (and paying amateurs!) ride in the earliest hours.

 

[RedheadDane]

I guess I could just have tried to do the math
6 hours is still a lot of time for an ITT though. I wouldn't watch it all that's for sure.

I'd probably have it on as "background noise" (and not mind the parts I'd miss if it was held on a week-day), only starting to pay more attention when the more important riders start starting.

 

[CyclistA+]

Thought this might come in handy for stories that don't really need their own thread, such as..

Moreni agrees to pay a year's salary to the UCI


Ah, **** - missed out the 'a' in 'thread'

[Fixed it for you - Mod]

What for?

 

[RedheadDane]

What for?

Did you just quote the first post in an (almost) 11-year-old, 468 pages thread, to ask what it's for? Even though it's stated right in the thread-title.

 

[CyclistA+]

Did you just quote the first post in an (almost) 11-year-old, 468 pages thread, to ask what it's for? Even though it's stated right in the thread-title.

Guilty, wasn't sure what it was about and hadn't checked the date so thought I'd ask.

 

[Netserk]

It smells a bit like canned, processed meat.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

What for?

So that it doesn't say 'thred'.

 

[CyclistA+]

Thanks for all the informed responses.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

If you are asking why Moreni paid the fine, click on the link and read all about it.

 

[CyclistA+]

If you are asking why Moreni paid the fine, click on the link and read all about it.

There doesn't appear to be a link though.

 

[RedheadDane]

There doesn't appear to be a link though.

Works quite fine for me, if you're interested in reading an 11-year-old story.

 

[tobydawq]

RhD's dream has come true; MSR will be shown from start to finish.

That's a hard pass for me.

The same goes for Il Lombardia, by the way.