General News Thread

[Sciatic]

For Am ricans, I think when you attach “bunny” to something women are doing, it can conjure up “Playboy bunny” Though on a cycling forummy 1st I made was to bunny hop.

 

[ciranda]

Playboy connotation if you're like seventy. Bunnyhop is a cyclo cross term and the podcast is about road cycling afaik. I find the name weird.

 

[Mayomaniac]

There will be an official livestream of the Giro del Belvedere (one of the most important Italian u23 races) on YT starting at 16:20.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DENt1_EINRc&feature=emb_title

 

[Samu Cuenca]

There will be an official livestream of the Giro del Belvedere (one of the most important Italian u23 races) on YT starting at 16:20.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DENt1_EINRc&feature=emb_title

01	Juan Ayuso		Team Colpack Ballan	3:56:18​	30​
02	Viktor Potocki		Ljubljana Gusto Santic	+ 14​	25​
03	Alexandre Balmer		Groupama-FDJ Conti	+ 14​	20​
04	Valentin Paret-Peintre		AG2R Citroën U23 Team	+ 20​	15​
05	Antoine Raugel		Groupama-FDJ Conti	+ 20​	10​
06	Asbjørn Hellemose		V.C.Mendrisio	+ 20​	5​
07	Michel Heßmann		Jumbo-Visma Development Team	+ 20​	3​
08	Andrea Pietrobon		Cycling Team Friuli ASD	+ 20​	1​
09	Henok Mulubrhan		Team Qhubeka	+ 32​	1​
10	Francesco Parravano		Aran Cucine Vejus	+ 32​	1​

 

[Mayomaniac]

01	Juan Ayuso		Team Colpack Ballan	3:56:18​	30​
02	Viktor Potocki		Ljubljana Gusto Santic	+ 14​	25​
03	Alexandre Balmer		Groupama-FDJ Conti	+ 14​	20​
04	Valentin Paret-Peintre		AG2R Citroën U23 Team	+ 20​	15​
05	Antoine Raugel		Groupama-FDJ Conti	+ 20​	10​
06	Asbjørn Hellemose		V.C.Mendrisio	+ 20​	5​
07	Michel Heßmann		Jumbo-Visma Development Team	+ 20​	3​
08	Andrea Pietrobon		Cycling Team Friuli ASD	+ 20​	1​
09	Henok Mulubrhan		Team Qhubeka	+ 32​	1​
10	Francesco Parravano		Aran Cucine Vejus	+ 32​	1​

Thanks, it was the classic route of the Giro del Belvedere:

Ayuso also won the Trofeo Piva over 1min ahead of Luca Colnaghi yeasterday, Raugel, Hellemose, Hessman, Pietrobon and Mlubrhan also raced yesterday.
The results of yesterday's race and it's route:
https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/trofeo-piva/2021

I have to say that I was impressed by Colnaghi, the guy won 2 bunch sprints and the points classification in the last Baby Giro, I didn't know that he could survive such a hilly route.

 

[Red Rick]

Rotterdam and The Hague wanna do a combined bid for the Grand Depart in 2024 or 2025. It would be prologue in Rotterdam, then a flat stage from Rotterdam to The Hague, and then a third stage starting in The Hague and finishing in Limburg.

Article is paywalled so I don't have that many details. Assume it's boring flat stages unless stage 2 follows the coastline a lot.

 

[tobydawq]

Rotterdam and The Hague wanna do a combined bid for the Grand Depart in 2024 or 2025. It would be prologue in Rotterdam, then a flat stage from Rotterdam to The Hague, and then a third stage starting in The Hague and finishing in Limburg.

Article is paywalled so I don't have that many details. Assume it's boring flat stages unless stage 2 follows the coastline a lot.

Why would a finish in Limburg imply flat and boring?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Why would a finish in Limburg imply flat and boring?

Because The Hague - Valkenburg is 240k, so it would likely be a finish in the flat part of Limburg.

 

[Red Rick]

Oh I misread, 3rd stage would also start in Rotterdam, so it's perhaps a little shorter

Anyway there's very few hills hard enough to make much of a difference even in Limburg, and in Amstel it's the fact that you have 30 of them that makes the difference.

 

[tobydawq]

Oh I misread, 3rd stage would also start in Rotterdam, so it's perhaps a little shorter

Anyway there's very few hills hard enough to make much of a difference even in Limburg, and in Amstel it's the fact that you have 30 of them that makes the difference.

Well, it could certainly be hard enough to make it a more interesting stage than a pre-given sprint...

 

[Mayomaniac]

So Samu Sanchez is competing again, but as an Alpine Skier!
He finished 5th in the Super-G at the Spanish NC. The level was probably not that high, but Spain still has more than just few ski stations, so it's still impressive at his age.
Apparently he comes from a skiing famil and was already skiing before he learned how to ride a bike.
Source: https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2021/04/13/1618260959/samuel-sanchez-sciatore-ex-ciclista

 

[Red Rick]

So Samu Sanchez is competing again, but as an Alpine Skier!
He finished 5th in the Super-G at the Spanish NC. The level was probably not that high, but Spain still has more than just few ski stations, so it's still impressive at his age.
Apparently he comes from a skiing famil and was already skiing before he learned how to ride a bike.
Source: https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2021/04/13/1618260959/samuel-sanchez-sciatore-ex-ciclista

"Did you know he used to be a pro cyclist?"

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So Samu Sanchez is competing again, but as an Alpine Skier!
He finished 5th in the Super-G at the Spanish NC. The level was probably not that high, but Spain still has more than just few ski stations, so it's still impressive at his age.
Apparently he comes from a skiing famil and was already skiing before he learned how to ride a bike.
Source: https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2021/04/13/1618260959/samuel-sanchez-sciatore-ex-ciclista

This is wonderful news. I wonder why he isn't taking part in downhill competitions.

 

[tobydawq]

This is wonderful news. I wonder why he isn't taking part in downhill competitions.

Skiing is more fun and hurts much less if you crash? Plus it says that he even began skiing before cycling.

Of course he was a demon descender at his peak but I don't recall him being at that high level near the end of his career.

 

[SafeBet]

I thought he was asking about downhill, the skiing discipline.

 

[tobydawq]

Ah, he may have.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Skiing is more fun and hurts much less if you crash? Plus it says that he even began skiing before cycling.

Of course he was a demon descender at his peak but I don't recall him being at that high level near the end of his career.

Yes I was only refering to the skiing discipline, but I can understand your confusion.

He was competing in the 40-45 age category, by the way, which was won by his friend Edu Carrera.
He is also part of a cycling academy named after himself, where I believe his youngest son Unai (13) is enrolled. At least he was back in 2017.

 

[roundabout]

Romandie

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shame that the original route did not happen

 

[Nirvana]

Oh I misread, 3rd stage would also start in Rotterdam, so it's perhaps a little shorter

Anyway there's very few hills hard enough to make much of a difference even in Limburg, and in Amstel it's the fact that you have 30 of them that makes the difference.

Considering how they are designing the Tour recently it will be a Cauberg uphill sprint, like Huy in 2015, Cherbourg in 2016, Longwy in 2017, Quimper in 2018, Epernay in 2019 and Mur de Bretagne this year, that's a solid pattern.

 

[tobydawq]

Considering how they are designing the Tour recently it will be a Cauberg uphill sprint, like Huy in 2015, Cherbourg in 2016, Longwy in 2017, Quimper in 2018, Epernay in 2019 and Mur de Bretagne this year, that's a solid pattern.

Mur de Bretagne also featured in 2015 and 2018.

And is it such a bad thing with a puncheur finish?

 

[Nirvana]

Mur de Bretagne also featured in 2015 and 2018.

And is it such a bad thing with a puncheur finish?

If it's 200+ kms of flat and an uphill sprint really bad, but this type of stages in general doesn't deliver at the beginning of the Tour, in 2018 they even tried their best with Quimper very hilly and the Mur two times but still nothing happened.

 

[Sciatic]

If it's 200+ kms of flat and an uphill sprint really bad, but this type of stages in general doesn't deliver at the beginning of the Tour, in 2018 they even tried their best with Quimper very hilly and the Mur two times but still nothing happened.

The 2011 Tour stage to Mur de Bretagne was pretty exciting with Evans just beating Contador, Vino, Uran, and Gilbert for the win. I guess you could still call it a Murito stage, but there were some big gaps between the multiple groups of riders arriving at the finish.

 

[Breezy1985]

2 questions I cant find an answer to.
Why do the Legion team spell it L39ion. Is there a significance to the numbers?
Also one of them wears a California jersey. Is this a regional champs kit and do other places do that ?

 

[Bonimenier]

2 questions I cant find an answer to.
Why do the Legion team spell it L39ion. Is there a significance to the numbers?
Also one of them wears a California jersey. Is this a regional champs kit and do other places do that ?

Your first question is answered on their wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L39ION_of_Los_Angeles

 

[Devil's Elbow]

If it's 200+ kms of flat and an uphill sprint really bad, but this type of stages in general doesn't deliver at the beginning of the Tour, in 2018 they even tried their best with Quimper very hilly and the Mur two times but still nothing happened.

Then again the Epernay stage the year after was pretty good and that was a better design than either of those in 2018.